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Nurse Kitchen and Tumultuous were normal scratchings, but even then, not enough to reduce your all up place multi by so much

Mathematical impossibility Say you multiplied up your other 4 successful place FF prices, and got to $72, then used $1.50(I'm assuming you took Tradesman or Megablast) in R8, then that gets you to $108. Regardless of the deduction for All In Vogue coming out, you can't get to $64

Ring up the 0800 102 106 number and ask them what the % deduction was for All In Vogue

So say $4.50 place, not going to come anywhere near a 43% deduction or reduce your place payout from $108 to $64

Seems excessive as R8 was dominated by 2 faves in Megablast and Tradesman and neither was late scratched, can't remember what All In Vogue was paying

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Yep, I recall he had a Harley

Well it's the much maligned Ruakaka on Saturday. Looking forward to some of your thoughts Barry, hopefully from oncourse, after that effort at Te Awamutu the other week I think you tipped out Kyrie Eleison last time My $2 EW, should not affect the price

Had a spell as a young fellow working in the Waharoa dairy factory(demolished a long time ago), and living in the Waharoa Tavern(defunct a long time ago) when you were not working All the guys in the dairy factory were mad keen punters and every opportunity was spent at the racetrack. Some of the guys knew quite a few of the jocks like Howie Mathews, Peter Johnson, Chris Freakley, so got to mix with them a bit. Needless to say, got some good tips in those days

You might recall TC that there was a time by his own admission that Scooby never even visited the Comps section on his own website Now he is all over the comps like an annoying rash, only because he has lost so many posters to BOAY and it is the only way he knows how to buy people's loyalty, prizes get bigger every week, the number of entries go down each week That's about as shallow as you can get and those that can't see through that probably don't want to or just are happy to take his money and then come back to BOAY

Shame on you Chief, Wally McEwan trained Fury's Order , one of the best racehorses to ever come out of the CD

Flashback: Kiwi flies to legendary Melbourne Cup win in 1983 Melbourne Age Kiwi and New Zealand jockey Jim Cassidy about to win the 1983 Melbourne Cup. . Chestnut gelding Kiwi's remarkable dash to victory in the 123rd Melbourne Cup in 1983 remains one of the greatest triumphs of the time-honoured race that stops the Australasian racing world for five minutes on the first Tuesday each November. At the 2200m mark and with just 1000m to go on the Flemington track, Kiwi and New Zealand jockey Jim Cassidy began a breath-taking burst to go from the back of the field, taking an outside line and flying past 22 rivals to win by just over a length. Melbourne Age Anne Lupton gives Kiwi a friendly pat as he comes back to scale with Jim Cassidy after winning the 1983 Melbourne Cup. Against the odds, 10-to-one actually, they had claimed the coveted Melbourne Cup, the southern hemisphere's most prestigious horse race. So quick was Kiwi's run down the home straight that race commentators only picked up on him towards the finish line, with the call "and here comes Kiwi out of the blue!". Simon Studios Anne Lupton holds the Melbourne Cup aloft as husband Snow shows off the winning trainer's replica. Who would have thought? Handed a microphone afterwards, co-owner and trainer Ewen "Snow" Lupton even admitted: "I didn't have a penny on him. I never bet much, but I had bet nothing on him." The 63-year-old said it was "the greatest thrill of our lives". Kiwi's amazing achievement remains a source of great New Zealand pride. Melbourne Age New Zealand jockey Jim Cassidy brings Kiwi home after winning the 1983 Melbourne Cup. Snow's wife Anne Lupton had bought the Dargaville-bred horse as a yearling for $1000. She named him Kiwi, unaware of how iconic that would become. Initially, Kiwi was used to help round up sheep on their farm in Waverley, South Taranaki, just north-west of Whanganui. Snow identified that the young horse showed promise as a distance runner, and so began the training. Kiwi continued to round up sheep as part of his conditioning routine. Several years later and with sights set on a big race, the Luptons entered him in the Wellington Cup at Trentham Racecourse in January 1983. In that, Kiwi also settled at the rear of the field, waiting until the home straight to make his move, flying to take the win. it was a sign of things to come. Dargaville and Districts News A framed photo of Kiwi winning the Melbourne Cup in 1983. Kiwi's form was confirmed further when later in the year he claimed the 2100m Egmont Cup at Hawera. But it had been the win over the Wellington Cup's 3200m distance, the same as the Melbourne Cup, which had the Luptons thinking even bigger. And, as it turned out, it was to become history in the making, including Kiwi becoming the first and only horse to win a Wellington Cup, or Auckland Cup, and the Melbourne Cup in the same year. To add to the remarkable feat, Kiwi went straight into the Melbourne Cup race without even having laid eyes on an Australian race track, let alone racing on one – unheard of in the industry and even considered by some as sacrilegious to such an event. While his Cup rivals had been doing various training runs, combined with trials wearing blinkers and shadow rolls, Kiwi had been relaxing in a paddock on Mornington Peninsula, about 90 minutes south of Melbourne, mixing with cattle and sheep in the fields around him – just like home. Pre-race training involved his usual light workout over pasture and a few rounds of the track at the farm. According to the record books, Kiwi was doing it all wrong. No horse had ever won the Melbourne Cup without a lead-up race somewhere in Australia. But he did. Back in Waverley, out of the small town's 1000 population, about 200 people had gathered at the Waverley Hotel and another 200 at the nearby Clarendon Hotel to watch live television coverage of the Cup. Festivities erupted. That television coverage is still among the most replayed as Melbourne Cup fever builds during the lead-up to the annual event. Kiwi ws controversially scratched from the 1984 Cup, with claims of bad sportsmanship. A year later he returned, finishing fifth. He ran again in 1986 but pulled up lame close to the finish line. A month later he represented New Zealand in the Japan Cup, running a creditable fifth. During his racing career, Kiwi notched up 13 career wins, earning over NZ$500,000 – buoyed by the $310,000 Melbourne Cup win. After his run in Japan, Kiwi was retired to the Lupton family farm. He died in 1995 and is buried on the farm, with a headstone stating simply: "Kiwi, 1983 Melbourne Cup". A commemorative plaque is also displayed at the Waverley Racecourse. Snow Lupton died in December 2004, aged 84, and Anne in 2008, aged 75. - Stuff

Is it a repeat Sunday Theatre drama currently being filmed about 1983 Melbourne Cup winner SHAUN BAMBER Last updated 10:01, February 23 2017 Filming on the set of Kiwi, a new Sunday Theatre drama about the New Zealand racehorse who won the 1983 Melbourne Cup. A Kiwi movie called Kiwi about a horse named Kiwi - go figure - is currently being filmed in and around Auckland. The Sunday Theatre drama, to be screened on TVNZ 1, will tell the story of thoroughbred New Zealand racehorse Kiwi, who won the 1983 Melbourne Cup in a dramatic come-from-behind run which saw him move from second-last to first within the race's final 500 metres. Kiwi was originally bought for $1000 by Ann Lupton, wife of Waverley sheep farmer the late Snow Lupton, who trained the Cup-winning horse - and at one stage used him to round up sheep. "It's just a very delightful story of humble beginnings," says the film's executive producer Charlotte Purdy. Kiwi received $3,068,975 in funding from NZ On Air last July, the second biggest allocation yet granted to a Sunday Theatre drama, behind Jean Batten biopic Jean, which received $3,256,000 in 2015. Purdy says the extra money granted to the production was all down to the horses. "Kiwi is all about horses, and horses are very expensive to work with," she says. "We've actually got three of them, because they've all got to do different things. "Every time one of the horses is on set they've got a number of handlers, etc, so that definitely adds to it. And also recreating racetracks, all of that stuff as well." The production recently took to Facebook in a search for jockey extras to star in the film, asking for "smaller built" people who might have "hidden acting skills" to apply. Kiwi is being produced for Rogue Productions by Carmen J Leonard and is directed by Thomas Robins. - Stuff

Care to disclose what part of England you are from Steve. Spent 2 years working in Hull, and had a girlfriend who lived in Stoke, so that midwinter trip over the Pennines was not much fun, black ice, freezing fog. Had never come across freezing fog before, diabolical.

This wasn't the research I was referring to, but I'll post it anyway out of interest 2014-18 NZTR Strategic Plan NZTR market RESEARCH HAS IDENTIFIED THOROUGHBRED RACING’S SIGNIFICANT CHALLENGES INCLUDing: ‘New Zealand’s lack of scale limits financial resources necessitating tough choices’ ‘ 94% of New Zealanders do not see Thoroughbred racing as ‘relevant’’ ‘ Fragmentation of the industry has resulted in a lack of direction’ ‘ The industry has been resistant to change and now there is a generation gap in engagement’ ‘ There is a lack of focus on the customer’ ‘ Infrastructure is run down and requires investment’ ‘ There is a lack of marketing direction and inconsistency in quality and messaging’ ‘ The on-course experience lacks innovation’

I think it was NZTR, did some consumer research a few years ago, probably what's called a Usage and Attitude survey, about why people did or did not bet on horses. One of the things that came through, was that people did not bet on horses, because they felt they were at a disadvantage compared with people in the industry, in terms of availability of information. How often do we read after a horse has won at longer odds usually, the full story of why.

Lots of happy Poms this morning Steve, 6-1, only Panama, but scoring goals at WC's hasn't been an English strong point. And then a 5-0 whitewash in the cricket, and the way it was done must have broken those Aussie hearts, 114-8 with 20 overs to go, and the most destructive batsmen in world cricket, Jos Buttler, smashes a ton.

You might recall the controversy over Lasse Viren and Pekka Vasala the 2 Finnish runners doing exactly the same thing back in the 70's

To be honest, I'd just let them go for it..................and ignore them. One of the main reasons this site got going and has established such a strong foothold after only just under 3 months(which is phenomenal against an established market leader), is the toxicity, unprofessionalism and immaturity that existed on RC. They don't seem to have learnt that, and seem incapable of moving on, so that is all to the benefit of BOAY

Ok we'll double my offer to 2%

Nothing to do with the topic, but just correcting the inferred assertion made that this site is made up from everyone banned from RC Not true, maybe only 1% The rest of us just left and got on and helped build this site

Impeccable breeding, yet to be named. Come one you miserable fucking sod Ted, congratulate them with an original post, instead of copy and pasting off that bad losers site

Just for you Ted

A feral Herald, good one, they won't be asking you TDB

Racing Minister Winston Peters hits out at bureaucratic 'shiny bums' for BYO alcohol ban at races 20 Jun, 2018 6:40pm 4 minutes to read Racing Minister Winston Peters at the Karaka yearling sales in 2017. Photo / Dean Purcell By: Claire Trevett Deputy political editor, NZ Herald claire.trevett@nzherald.co.nz@CTrevettNZH Racing Minister Winston Peters has hit out at "shiny bums" for interfering in the country lifestyle by trying to ban BYO booze at racecourses and says "too many old males" are holding back development at some courses. Speaking at a select committee about the Budget measures for racing, Peters criticised police attempts to impose bans on BYO alcohol at the races. Speaking about the importance of racing in the regions, he said more people went to the races at Dargaville than Avondale. "Until the police were giving the directive to start stopping them taking any grog along and interfering with their country lifestyle. And you will recall the head of the Kumara races said he wanted these shiny bums to keep out of his part of the country. What he means is that's part of their culture. You go there and you'll see 8000 to 9000 at Kumara. Why are bureaucrats in Wellington interfering with their lifestyle?" It followed an interpretation of liquor laws by police that many large events were breaching liquor laws by allowing BYO alcohol. Peters also blamed "too many old males" for holding back racing development at some courses. Peters said racecourses in the regions such as Ruakaka at Whangārei were not using their assets to their full potential and could use some of their land for developments such as retirement villages to raise revenue. He pointed to the example of Riccarton Racecourse in Christchurch which last year got approval to use some of the land around the racecourse for housing developments. "You've got them all round the country where they could be retirement villages and places like that. Christchurch is starting to realise that. But these clubs are sitting on assets and, dare I say it, too many old males not giving other people a chance to make a contribution to the health of the racing industry locally." . Peters also pointed to China as the racing industry's possible salvation, saying the liberalistion of the industry in China would open up opportunities for bloodstock exports. He said he had met with those involved in the industry on his recent trip to China including a representative for Chinese billionaire Lang Lin – nicknamed Mr Wolf. Lang was a regular at the Karaka sales and exported horses to Inner Mongolia. He was a driver behind the fledgling racing industry in China and his NZ-based company donated to National at the past election. Peters said New Zealand could be exporting three or four times as many horses as it did at the moment. While betting on racing was not allowed in China, he said there was an $8 billion investment to establish the industry. "And a whole lot of people such as Lin Lang and others who are enormously enthusiastic and I can see it, being the Chinese, it won't be second or third class, one of these says it will be great." However, he was less keen on letting Chinese foreign investors set up base in New Zealand for breeding, saying that was simply "letting your grass to offshore ownership." The main gain for the industry in the Budget was tax breaks for those buying "standout" yearlings with the intention of breeding for profit. He said any foregone revenue from those tax breaks would be more than made up in the taxes gathered on higher sales from breeding. Major changes to the industry will await a review of its governance structures and racing legislation by Australian horse owner, breeder and administrator John Messara. Peters said obstacles to the industry included outdated infrastructure and low prize money. Peters has campaigned on an all-weather track and higher prize money and said those remained targets.