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Tell you what though Huey, he will have had a close look at the NZTR Annual Reports, to see, for each club, what the data was for Oncourse turnover Total turnover Export turnover From that he can probably work out approx how much NZRB is getting from the wagering on each clubs activity Then relate that to the total stakes paid by each club, and the total funding paid to each club

You would expect Messara is smart enough to know that asking for Government money is not on and therefore you would expect him to come up with a sustainable plan for growth that is funded within the constraints of current cash generation Net betting revenue is on track for 302 million this season, so plenty of money in the system Unfortunately it is going to cost 218 million to get that 302

Racing: Major report on home turn 18 Jul, 2018 5:00am 4 minutes to read Australian racing supremo John Messara says he is confident of meeting the deadline. Photo / Getty Images NZ Herald By: Michael Guerin The most important report in New Zealand racing's recent history is on target to be delivered to Minister for Racing Winston Peters by the end of the month. And the man charged with making recommendations which could be crucial to the future of the racing industry says he has concentrated mainly on the thoroughbred industry. Australian racing supremo John Messara was asked by Peters to write a strategic report to provide advice to the Government on how to fix racing's woes. Peters said the Messara review would assist the government in determining if the Racing Act and the proposed Racing Amendment Bill, elements of which should provide New Zealand racing with millions of dollars of extra overseas turnover income, are fit for purpose. Messara says his report is just weeks away and should be in Peters' hands by the target date of the end of the racing season, July 31. "I am confident of meeting that deadline and while we haven't finished compiling the report yet it will be around 50-60 pages, maybe more," Messara told the Herald. The NSW-based racing administrator estimates he has spent between two and three weeks on the ground in New Zealand since being asked to look into the industry here and has met with the heads of all three codes and New Zealand Racing Board boss John Allen. "I have been over there three times and met with a lot of people while we have also had submissions from a wide range of people in the industry." But while the report could have a huge impact on the way New Zealand's racing industry is run for decades to come, Messara says he has concentrated more on the thoroughbred code than harness racing or greyhounds because that is what he was asked to do. "But I am not going to get into the specifics of the report or the discussions I have had," says Messara "I will be happy to talk about those after it has been released but I will deliver it to the Minister and it will be up to him to release it." Messara being asked to concentrate on fixes for the thoroughbred industry is no surprise on two fronts. Firstly, it is the one of the three racing codes in New Zealand that has fallen the furthest behind its Australian equivalent in terms of stake money and infrastructure, particularly New South Wales racing, which Messara was at the head of for part of a booming financial resurgence over the last decade. And secondly it was serious players in the thoroughbred industry, like Sir Patrick Hogan, who were among the most vocal Peters supporters before last year's election, with some inside the racing industry reportedly voting for New Zealand First for that reason alone. Messara says while thoroughbred racing will be at the centre of his report the harness and greyhound codes should not see that as a negative. "I think a stronger thoroughbred industry would be good for New Zealand racing of all codes," he said. Messara's suggested strategies around how to increase stakes, pay for much-needed track maintenance, potential venue closures and even the building of New Zealand's first all-weather track, if as expected they are covered by the review, will be eagerly anticipated. But perhaps the most important question being asked by those at the head of all three racing codes is what will the report suggest about the future role of the New Zealand Racing Board. There is a strong push, particularly from some of the thoroughbred code's leaders, for NZRB's core duties to be outsourced, with its betting operations an obvious target, and with overseas suitors keen to tender for that role. It would be surprising if Messara's report didn't cover that outsourcing or licensing of an overseas operator to run betting on New Zealand racing but that could require changes to the Racing Act which could be hard to get passed. Reducing the number of racing venues in New Zealand also looks certain to be recommended but again that will be met with considerable resistance in some regions. So while the report is near completion, the debates must just be getting ready to intensify. Crunch time • Australian expert John Messara is set to deliver his strategic review of New Zealand racing at the end of the month. • He says it concentrates primarily on the thoroughbred code because that is what he was asked to do. • The most anticipated part of the report will be Messara's recommendations around the role of the New Zealand Racing Board. • The report, which will be at least 50 pages, will be delivered to Minister for Racing, Winston Peters.

About as good as he has been for the world of cyber chat, so bad(or should I say so good), that it opened up an opportunity for BOAY to get going and established

No such thing in NZ Same as with KFE, had there been issues to critique about Te Akau, and there were many, such as the time the connections of Xtravagant were allowed to walk the Te Rapa track. That was the day, if I recall correctly, that on a rain affected track, Xtravagant stayed close to the rail, while others all ran wide

Having a look around, found this Explore Collections People Search Account Glyn Tucker Presenter Overview Biography Awards Glyn Tucker was born in post World War I Wellington, to a Welsh miner Dad and English schoolteacher Mum. He learned to sing around the family piano and by 18 was crooning in the capital’s dance halls, where he was billed as “New Zealand’s Bing Crosby”. Tucker also performed during the interval at Wellington’s De Luxe Theatre (now the Embassy), accompanied by a Wurlitzer organ. As a youth he represented Wellington at soccer and cricket. Later, Tucker’s first gig behind the microphone was reporting on the cricket, and he would go on to commentate international test matches for radio and television. “I would be watching it anyway,” as he told the Auckland Star in 1977. In the late 30s, just out of college, he replaced a mate on the staff of the New Zealand Racing Conference, the body set up to control the horse-racing industry in NZ. And so Tucker opened the starting gate on a lifelong association with the gee-gees. Tucker returned to the Conference after war service in Egypt. In 1952 he was appointed Keeper of the New Zealand Stud Book — the register of the births, deaths and marriages in the NZ racing world — a position he led until 1968. In the late 60s he was a recognised authority on thoroughbreds, and became an independent bloodstock consultant under the banner ‘Southern Cross Bloodstock Agency’. What did he look for in a horse? He told Alex Veysey in a 1977 Sunday Times profile: “They come in all shapes and sizes. They’re like humans. Look at Murray Halberg, When he ran he looked like an accident going to happen. But he won races.” The same year he told the Auckland Star: “I am one of the lucky people who likes their work. I love horses and I loved the stud side of it. Perhaps more importantly I like the people I meet in horse racing.” In the early 70s Tucker helped pioneer one of the first live racing telecasts in New Zealand, commenting from a tree platform at Ellerslie. In 1972 Tucker started radio show Straight Talk on Wellington’s 2ZB. It played on Friday nights for three years, and provided the segue into screen work for the man known as New Zealand’s ‘Mr Racing’. “I used to get letters and phone calls from all over the country. Then one day the television people waddled into my office and asked if I would do a programme on racing.” That programme became Turf Talk. The hour-long show was split into coverage of all things racing related, and a Game of Two Halves-style quiz between sports celebrities of the day. On Turf Talk he worked with a young Phillip Leishman. In a 2012 ScreenTalk interview Leishman described Tucker as “inimitable … an overpowering man, an amazing personality, loved his horses, knew everything about racing.” Leishman described himself as Tucker’s ‘little shadow’, hosting the quiz and tailing Tucker around race courses. “I just loved it.” Tucker’s genial gift of the gab — “she’ll stay all day like a mother-in-law” — made him telegenic and a sporting identity, and he went on to be punting pundit on Saturday morning TV1 sports preview show Sports Extra. A singing appearance on Ray Woolf-fronted chat show Two on One in 1977 led to viewer requests for more. Aged 54, Tucker moved from the turf to compering talent — from jugglers, jazz troupes and show girls to Kamahl and Suzanne Prentice — when he fronted TV variety show Everything is Beautiful. He became an idol for older viewers and even cut a record (Step Out and Sing) which went gold. In 1977 Tucker's place in Kiwi culture was indicated by him donning the big red suit in end-of-year show Will the Real Mr Claus Please Stand Up. Tucker’s next screen excursion into light entertainment was the infamous Club Show (1979), co-hosted with Ernie Leonard. Times and tastes had changed; the live light entertainment spectacular found little love from the public or critics. But Tucker treated his screen work as a ‘hobby’ and never took himself or his celebrity too seriously, “I’m a hard man to get annoyed. Other people get sad and sour, but life’s too short.” The toilets in his office were labelled ‘colts’ and ‘fillies’. By the early 80s racing’s TV form was waning and Tucker’s trackside shows had been scratched, but he continued to feature as a commentator on cricket and live racing telecasts for Sport on One. “G’day Glyn, how's it going?” chants from young sports fans followed him down the street and from the stands. In 1978 he published autobiography Thoroughbreds are My Life. Tucker made his final screen appearance on Auckland Cup Day 1984, when he left his sickbed to describe the big race. Tucker died in May that year from a heart ailment, aged 62. He requested to be buried on a Thursday. “That’s a day my racing mates won’t have any excuse for not attending [my funeral].” He was made an MBE for services to the racing industry. TV critic Barry Shaw eulogised in the NZ Herald: “the viewers of New Zealand do not really know how good Glyn Tucker was for New Zealand television … just as a lot of racegoers never wake up to how good a performer a horse is until it is spent — and is gone.”

I'm picking you're not a $1 punter, so even at only $10, that is some sort of collect. How about putting up a prize, like a trip to Fiji, for a comp that we will arrange someone to run Perhaps not, might upset a few

2 sports spring to mind that are very well served are Cricket and Rugby League, both with a number of very charismatic and accurate presenters who were former players at the top level. Some of these guys like Greg Alexander and Nasser Hussain to name only a couple, don't miss a trick and give an insight into aspects of the game as they unfold. So in Racing in NZ you need someone who has been involved at the coalface, that leaves either a jockey or a trainer, and that is where you draw a blank, I can't think of anyone, so we are stuck with some of the goof balls that present now

I realise it was a nothing field, but could not believe the time on the TAB website 1.59.30, surely no open class race could be run so slowly, so checked NZTR, yep you guessed, 1.50.93

Woohoooo 250/1

Good luck

There was another one though, quite a few years before this

NZTR News 2nd Racy Girls 2014/15 Season Calendar 24 June 2014, 9:07 a.m. 10 years later BackstretchNZ Productions has produced the 2nd Racy Girls 2014/15 season calendar, dedicated in memory of Lisa Chittick with charitable donations benefiting Leukaemia and Blood Cancer New Zealand (LBC) THE CALENDAR: Representing the industry - arriving on raceday, combining the colour, the glamour, the female athlete competing equally alongside men, illustrating their more feminine alluring sensual side outside boots, breaches, silks, helmets and goggles! 6 NZ Trainers and 6 NZ Studfarms have shown their recognition of these professional young ladies as an integral aspect of the industry through sponsoring a page within the Racy Girls 2014/15 calendar - Each jockey is attired in a dress made by renowned raceday wear designer OOBY RYN to emulate their sponsors colours, these outfits will be up for auction worn by the girls on the night of the Official Launch and Fundraiser evening with 100% of proceeds raised through all items auctioned directly benefiting LBC. A limited signed edition will also go under the hammer Various donated items/services available through a Silent Auction Launch and Fundraiser: DATE: 03 Aug 2014 TIME: 6pm ENTRY: $10 - directly benefiting LBC VENUE: THE CLUBHOUSE SPORTS BAR AND GRILL TAYLOR STREET CAMBRIDGE RACEWAY CAMBRIDGE 07 8237111 MEET THE JOCKEYS MEET THE SPONSORS LIVE AUCTION SILENT AUCTION CALENDAR SALES - $30 BAR MEALS AVAILABLE Calendars available through the Racy Girls website and at various NI race meets. www.racygirls2014.co.nz (will be up and running 1st week of July) New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing Inc.

Everyone's favourite destination tomorrow, the odds on Kyrie won't be very good

The female jockeys in NZ, actually did a calendar quite a few years ago, all very tasteful and I think sanctioned by NZTR, plus I think it was to raise funds for a good cause.........................injured jockeys fund??

We often talk about the self proclaimed champion of Racing's foot soldier, being the last person you would ever want to be in the trenches with, relying on. It would be tally ho boys, over the top and get em........................................................... you first

UNINFORMED ARTICLE DELIVERS THE WRONG MESSAGE IN MAINSTREAM MEDIA 4 July 2018 Racing has been getting a bad deal in mainstream media which seems to go hand-in-hand with the media backhanders constantly being dished out to Acting Prime Minister and Minister of Racing Winston Peters. AM Show host Duncan Garner is a regular offender but many of his comments seem to come from sheer ignorance, his ego, and a political bias that places him in the camp firmly opposed to Winston Peters, NZ First and its policies. Then you get the article that appeared on the inside front page of the Sunday-Star Times on the 24th of June which was headed, “Officials warned against racing tax breaks.” This was trash tabloid journalism at its very worst. It began, “Inland Revenue officials have warned against tax breaks for the racing industry, saying they could cost the Crown up to $40 million in lost revenue – but the Government is proceeding regardless.” A pathetic statement that is so far from the truth, was not substantiated in any form and was credited to have come from unnamed officials at Inland Revenue. No one in the racing industry was asked to comment on that remark to provide some balance. It was a shallow attempt to leave racing and the Minister in a bad light but it failed because its author Andrea Vance was out of her depth on the subject, didn’t do the research and sounded politically motivated. The mystery is why was it written at all and what was such a nonsense article doing on page two. Vance went to the trouble of phoning Sir Patrick Hogan to try and stir up a storm in a teacup over the unauthorised advert that appeared in The Informant, placed by Hogan just prior to last year’s election, but the Hall of Famer who was at home recovering from his dual knee replacement operations wasn’t taking the bait. “The journalist Vance phoned me and tried to wind me up but I gave her very little comment,” Hogan told The Informant this week. “I just listened but she tried to wind me up. She was trying to put words into my mouth that they could print but I picked it straight away. When I read it I was very pleased that I had said very little. “It was an article that was completely unwarranted,” continued Hogan. “It didn’t justify even going to print. It was based on nothing whatsoever. They were certainly having a strong dig at the industry.” Well-known Hamilton accountant and Chairman of the New Zealand Racing Hall of Fame Chris Luoni was angered enough by the article to write a stern rebuttal which stated, “This article is factually incorrect in respect of the income tax changes for new horse breeders which were announced in the recent NZ Budget. “Vance quotes IRD officials who believe that tax breaks could cost the Crown up to $40 million in lost revenue. This is also factually incorrect and misleading.” The comprehensive three-page rebuttal by Luoni that pointed out and corrected all the inaccuracies of the story, in conclusion, said, “It annoys me that journalists like Vance write articles without proper fact-checking. “Vance has based her article on an unknown IRD official being quoted as saying that ‘the cost to the Crown could be up to $40 million.’ This statement is unsubstantiated and from an unknown person (if any) – and my response is, ‘prove it.’ “She has not sought comment from people involved in the bloodstock industry and indeed the bloodstock industry is at fault for not having spokesmen who respond to inaccurate articles written like this. “I believe industry representative bodies like Harness Racing NZ and NZ Thoroughbred Racing must show leadership and have spokespeople to respond to such irresponsible articles which only seek to undermine a genuine NZ industry.” Another accountant in the industry with a strong horse ownership involvement but who prefers not to be named was also critical of the story. He said, “I was wondering what the background to that article was because it is very odd for a government department like the IRD to have a pot-shot at a Minister. “There’s a bit more behind it because one of the top political journalists Andrea Vance wrote the article which I thought was a bit odd as well. The inside front page of the Sunday-Star Times – didn’t quite deserve its place. There was no substance to it – it was all a bit of puffery – hot air really.” On the question of GST in racing, he also had this to say, “The racehorse is an essential supply to the wagering business which it cannot operate without. However, the IRD’s ruling means that the GST incurred by the horse owner in making that supply, “the horse to bet on”, cannot be recovered. “This situation, I believe, is peculiar to the racing Industry where a recreational activity or hobby is a key input into a taxable activity (wagering). This IRD ruling places the racing and wagering business in a serious cost disadvantage relative to other forms of wagering in New Zealand and makes it internationally less competitive. “Other wagering businesses in New Zealand (e.g. casinos, gaming) are permitted to claim back the GST that they incur on the products they supply to operate their wagering activities (e.g. gaming machines, roulette tables etc). Therefore, these forms of wagering have a significant cost advantage over investing in racehorses as the costs of their inputs are in essence 15% lower. “I’ve done some numbers which say racing is being slaughtered by the tax man,” he continued. “They are unique numbers and what they show is completely the opposite to what those boofheads at the tax department are saying. “If you take the NZRB stuff, the code stuff, and the operational costs, the industry is losing almost $300 million a year – this is the costs to the owners – they are public numbers taken from various places. The owners’ costs are all in the Size and Scope Report. “When you put them all together, add them up, and eliminate the stakes that are paid to owners, it shows this massive loss but that doesn’t include the capital investment in horses. Consolidate the results from an investors perspective and include them in the numbers, the result is that a loss of that magnitude is not sustainable – no business is going to survive with that outcome. “The tax department seems to think that this business is run by the elite and we have truck-loads of money and they can tax the hell out of us. All the owners are subsidising racing to the tune of that almost $300 million – that’s point one. Point Two is that if you add up the GST the racing board is paying, the racing duty on betting and the GST paid by the owners on their racing costs and it comes to $88 million dollars. “So here’s a business that’s losing nearly $300 million and we are paying $88 million in tax as well. We contribute $1.6 million to GDP as well and we employ 14,400 people full time and the total participants in racing are over 58,000 according to the NZRB’s Size and Scope Report prepared by IER Pty Ltd. “You might say, ‘well, the NZRB make $140 million a year profit – but the racing codes have to spend $40 million between them doing their operating thing so you are immediately down to $100 million. To get all the horses and dogs to the racing industry costs $389 million a year and they generate the $100 million in profit – that’s what is paid out in stakes to the people who spend $389 million. “You don’t have to be a mathematician to work out the extent of the loss,” he concluded. The money the codes spends on getting all the horses and dogs to the races is not a controllable figure but GST is certainly a contentious issue and one that needs to be addressed in the coming industry overhaul. Chris Luoni has also written a paper questioning why all racing entities in New Zealand are treated as hobbyists by the Commissioner of Inland Revenue when that very treatment contradicts the wording in the GST Act. Luoni says, “One major matter of concern to the bloodstock industry is that the IRD’s paper QB 17/04 has a major flaw in that this policy paper has some strange requirements which are not consistent with the GST Act and therefore are incorrect in law. “For example, the definition of a taxable activity in section 6(1) (a) of the GST Act does not require the company to earn a pecuniary profit in order to be conducting a taxable activity. “However, the following statements are made in QB 17/04: “…The Commissioner considers that, for syndicates whose activities are limited to racing horses, a taxpayer would need to establish all of the following matters (i.e. in order to be considered a taxable activity): “1. The syndicate is formed not for the personal interest or pleasure of the participants, but for the purpose of making a profit from the activity, and it is operated in that manner. “2. The activity of the syndicate or partnership is organised to achieve a pecuniary profit and operates in a systematic fashion that on an objective assessment appears to materially reduce the element that luck plays in whether any prize money is won. “3. A significant amount of time is involved in performing the activity undertaken by the manager of the syndicate or partnership including acquiring and managing the horses that are assisting in meeting financial imperatives. “Why is the Commissioner producing a policy paper which is stating that the activity must be organised to achieve a pecuniary profit when section 6 of the GST Act does not require it? “It would appear that the ‘Profit Type Analysis’ the Commissioner employs is founded on ‘their view’ of “private recreational pursuit or hobby” and that the profit-making purpose is used by the Commissioner as a proxy to preclude exceptions for hobbies. In other words, the Commissioner is taking a position that he considers is a private, recreational pursuit or hobby, and consequently is an excluded activity for GST purposes…” “The racing industry deserves to be treated with more respect and in terms of the GST Act each and every entity is entitled to be considered on its merits for GST registration and not be subject to the Commissioner’s blanket position that all “racing entities” are considered to be hobbyists.” To read this and other important industry stories in The Informant each week email ADMIN@RACINGMEDIA.CO.NZ. Mention W@W and get 20% off an online subscription.

At the same time they could also think about the values of people who splash out money on new ventures, prior to meeting historical commitments

Wait till Messara's report comes out, lambasting will be taken to a new level by various people in the racing industry, would you expect anything less

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And it would appear, that they can also go into peoples accounts, that are supposedly password protected, and change details such as log in names. If I was still at RC, I would be very worried about the security of my privacy, as it appears, that anything goes

Apparently Invision(they do the software for BOAY and RC) do have a small file that site administrators can purchase that allows them to look at private mail.

Was thinking the same thing in respect to Pike River All barriers to progressing things were removed so that anyone who had expertise in the matter could be utilised.

Just one last group to go They are calling it the most difficult and daring rescue of modern times

Yep, big day tomorrow and Thursday for England in particular, and I know there is one avid Belgian fan on BOAY