holy ravioli

Maybe so,but the racing industry is more than TA ...believe it or not. Chris Waller is the high achiever when it comes to a Kiwi ,involved in racing.

Drivers expected Gammalite to sit parked...!and the rest is...history.

You would think it just cannot succeed ,given property rights western democracies. Very draconian approach. Each and every club should be allowed to wither and die in their own time,like RSA's that run out of....members and are not viable. How the assets are dealt with then,will become another...minefield.

Opening batsman for the racing establishment OBN...is very disparaging about Michelle Pickles contribution-'.the subject being significant sporting achievements by NZ sports persons / teams this year '....and...'why could she not slip in a comment about Melody Belle, TA Shark or even TA / Jamie Richards . DE must be disappointed in not getting some free publicity ! Can't see any real case for perennial placegetter TAS,TA 's Jamie Richards is a very good trainer...so what!...and the success of Fortuna's MB is really a domestic triumph when an international perspective is the relevant measure. Way out of line this vexatious,vile fiend from the Viaduct.

Mr Oatham must have deemed it unnecessary-'Bred and raced by Sir Peter Vela, Supera has now won seven of her 15 starts. She is out of Van Nistelrooy mare Sopra Tutto ?

Just saw the Last race at Ellerslie.Sam Weatherly ..a great talent.a great ride..did well in Sydnet WTF?

https://www.punters.com.au/news/boom-kiwi-gelding-heading-to-melbourne_186211/

These are unfortunate losses ,but the reality is that there are new stallions and new blood available to breeders every year. Good to see stallions like Satono Aladdin ,Vadamos,Eminent and Staphanos introducing some lines that hopefully will come to the fore in the future. Pins and O'Reilly proved a good alternative to the Danehill and Sir Tristram line stallions that were/are in abundance.

so the JCA are the jury? Hell if Chief S?tipe doesn't know...who...does?

Observations that the big breeders run racing have long been made and it appears to be an accepted reality. If that is indeed the case,the blame for the demise of racing lies with them. Their aim is to stay in business and the actual health of the domestic industry has lost its importance. The real money for stock comes from overseas interests. The one off injections of millions on premium races and the ongoing funding of restricted events is a glaring example of vested self interest prevailing over the 'greater good'. Apologists for this influence have a very weak rationale for its continuence. 'Peters pet rat' exhorts the faithful to look beyond and not be negative....a well worn sentiment to maintain the ...status quo. The future looks bleak.

So what role do the stipes play in inquiries then? Surely not just lodging protests or pushing the button!

Don't buy form guides now, but who owns/owned Best Bets in recent times.Used to be a Fairfax publication...I think.

Familia to upset the fav.

be more careful in the future...I'm keeping a close eye on you and any somersaults.?

yet...' In OZ in my opinion they would have demoted the filly. '....hard to fathom...?‍♂️

I imagine one on one matches,with a winner take all prize,could prove very popular....even as betting events. A rematch TAS vs Kolding over 1600m at.....??

Ah...a bold new future....sweepstakes and equalisators!?

maybe we will discover a ...good answer.?

The topic of industry funding to the tune of 500k for restricted races is an interesting one,given the woeful stakes currently available to the average owner/trainer supporting the industry. Should a private ,for profit company be subsidised in this manner or are the wider benefits significant enough to justify it? The recent creation of multi million dollar events in Australia seems to be a successful formula. These are basically self funded ,and maybe this is a better option and that 6 figure sum could be spread over 'iconic' races at more venues.

Mr Ellis would say that...wouldn't he! Btw where are the reports/vids...get directed to loveracing.co....can't find a thing!

At least you concede that the relegation was the wrong call. I am pretty sure a protest under these circumstances would have ZERO chance of being upheld in Sydney or Melbourne. btw..the 'spurious allegation was in relation to your statements relevance to the inquiry. These 'feds' need to lift their game. They are just another example of the old boy network that contributes to the continuing decline of racing in NZ. Best suggestion I've seen so far re protests, was having a NRL type system,with no input from connections or jockeys.

'That's your opinion that wasn't shared by the JCA. There is no evidence to say Mr Ellis INACTION made it worse. Whatever "worse" is. 'worse' is the suggestion of undue ..'influence'. What I said was that Thomaas's fantasy about what was said and done before the protest did not match what I was told. what you were 'told' is hearsay. 'Aside from Te Akau Stud having bred the horse it is raced by a Te Akau Syndicate named Te Akau Fine Red. Isn't Mr Ellis the Chief at Te Akau? I'd say he has every right. ' this is your opinion and a very spurious stance,given the circumstances. there is a common saying....'nothing to hide,nothing to..fear'. As TA and its principals have a high profile in the industry one would think/expect them to show leadership,transparency and moral virtue in matters such as this. DE lowered the cone of silence'...not a good look at all from an integrity perspective.And yes that is my opinion,and I suggest ...the majority one. '

My point is.. not only was the decision wrong....the interference of DE in the proceedings ..made it...worse. You maintain you spoke to 2 people involved and it was a straight forward case.Nothing to see here. The jockey involved on the runner protesting has said(off the record)that she did not want to protest and the interference had no effect on the outcome. What I see is a very shrewd and calculated process that had the desired outcome ,all the while deflecting and exonerating the main player. Redaction of who was the initial informant,refusal to co-operate in any examination of the circumstances by the party that stood to benefit,and an abdication of impartiality and acceptable integrity by the committee. Deplorable and unacceptable.

punters are 'just gamblers'....'punters are ...scum'....1 quote from trainer,1 from senior racing Admin.

the point is(sledgehammer)...we know it costs to race a horse=the syndicate members PAY . YOU-'He who pays the bills has the final say.' ME-'Ahem...the people who are in the syndicate PAY the Bills. YOU-'You have no idea who is in the Syndicate. ' Splitting hairs...indeed.