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Just had a quick read of this Chief. Isit saying that the mortality rate is about 3.5% of lab confirmed cases?

Now 25. 2 in ICU I see

I believe those are the peer reviewed citations acceptable to Nature. Total citations according to google scholar are 290

Try reading the data Brodie, not listening to ill-informed media reports and hear say.

Well that article has been cited 97 times since being published last November. That is the key measure of journal impact.

And btw Nature has the highest impact factor of any journal publishing basic scientific research and is regarded by most as a very prestigious academic journal despite your opinion.

Please post those citations then. I can't find them, at least in peer reviewed journals.

Do you mean risk averse? I'd hope health advisors would be. They are ethically if not legally bound to be.

That is complete bs disinformation. It happened last year too. Read what the coroner had to say about it when he released the suicide data following last year's lockdown which showed a significant DECLINE in suicide rates through June 2020. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/chief-coroner-takes-aim-at-unhelpful-commentary-as-latest-suicide-results-released/SKFQCHU5OAK6UT6ATHF4VDZBPY/# I am a MH professional and have educated 100s of mental health professionals. Neither I nor any colleagues I have spoken to have seen any increase in suicides during this lock down either.

She and cabinet are acting on advice from experts in the health sector. Don't know what you mean about suicides. Do you mean suicides from amongst Covid cases?

There has been some really good work done using age specific mortality data to assess infection rates and IFR due to Covid. However, that work is quite clear also that there are a number of complexities in the interpretation of excess death data that can inhibit their direct use in assessments of IFR (see e.g, https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2918-0 ) Direct use of that sort of data is part of the disinformation band playing a tune that will somehow make a serious infectious disease go away.

Totally disagree with that idea. Don't think any overall death rates, age adjusted or not, are a useful measure for the impact of Covid on death rates. Too many other factors conflated in that data.

Won a Group 1 in Italy but was relegated to second. Second also in the Eclipse and Coronation Stakes. His second to Alleged in the Arc no doubt his best performance and unlucky not to have knocked him off. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0JmWHPiz0uw Great day at the races though.

You think most of these cases were in the dementia unit?

Great. You have to give up when you have no substance to stand on.

On the other side of the argument, Covid deaths may be significantly underestimated due to scarcity of testing and deaths may be attributed to other factors when Covid was the primary cause.

I agree that is an issue. They are counting anyone that dies within 28 days of a +ve covid test as a covid related death when a number may have died anyway but you have to have some determining measure and I'm not sure what is a better one.

Wait. We have 26 deaths from a bit less than that many cases so far?

Are you saying those numbers would be the same with no lockdown?

That appears to be an error. MOH stats say 17 currently hospitalised. 4 new in the last 24 hours.

That is current. Total could be a bit higher if some have already been discharged.

The report I read said that there are currently 19 community cases in hospital, including one in a stable condition in intensive care. Of those in hospital, two are in North Shore Hospital, eight are in Middlemore Hospital, and nine are in Auckland City Hospital. No deaths were reported. That seems to me to be a remarkable result for the country, the strategy and the measures taken at what is hopefully the peak of the outbreak.

Try this: https://blogs.bmj.com/bmj/2021/08/23/does-the-fda-think-these-data-justify-the-first-full-approval-of-a-covid-19-vaccine/

Oops working now!

Link doesn't work but I'd like to read it