Brodie

You are correct Davis, if harness racing died in NZ the NZ TAB would be happy but the participants would not be. Yes they love the Sports betting!

Reality is that the NZ TAB has a betting monopoly in NZ but they are very poorly run! Instead of restricting punters they should be encouraging them, which will make the industry far mire sustainable! By giving away free bets to certain punters obviously increases turnover but makes them less profit. Yes I know they want to retain the losing punters by giving them back some money but at the same time not allowing others on for what they want. There business plan as such is totally flawed and is hurting them majorly. By favouring the losing punters over the more astute punters is driving punters out of punting on harness and ownership. They need to forget about the yield and get turnover growing and ultimately they will be better off.

They do not want to increase turnover Shad! It seems to be all about yield and that is why the NZ TAB is faltering. If they let me on, I could increase their turnover significantly but they dont want my $ and they treat me as a money launderer. Unless they change their policies the NZ TAB is going to decline.

Hoses from the back are making ground in the straight not like Westport! One good collect from the only investment over Xmas period so far, so more than happy with The Mot!

Na she and her other useless muppets are gone burger bigtime. Anyone that is prepared to vote for her and her commies do not deserve a vote! Was unbelievable that they voted for her and her useless cohorts last time after a very poor performance in their first term. She kept us safe people say, what she did was stuffed NÉW ZEALAND and we are going to continue to pay for this for the next decade unfortunately. It will be a landslide victory for National next year without doubt

No, what was his other claim to fame? Yes will be a far better day at Mot, where horses can come from the back. Even had a bit of a go today on one!

Durbin Chief.

Like all the Labour lightweights, living off the taxpayers generosity! They are all total incompetents, I have absolutely no idea what Labour showed in their first term to warrant people to want them back in power? Beggars belief really!!!!

Didnt have a wager on Westport over the 2 days and watched many on my phone! This track is such a front runners track it gives you basically no chance from the back. But more so you have to stick to the fence as you save so much ground that anything on the fence has got so much of an advantage over those 2 out. Even if you are in the one one and come out on the bend you lose plenty of ground on the ones on the inside. Good punting to everyone at Mot tomorrow and will be a big crowd and meant to be over 30 degrees.

Embarrassing that they allow it to occur 4 horses $50k the industry in the North is stuffed. copy That in the race so who is going to bet against it? Just another drain on the harness coffers is Auckland and not going to improve when trainers and owners drop out this coming year with the Labour Party wish to have a recession!

Some drivers just have natural ability and some do not! Just because you are born into a racing family does not mean you are going to be a great driver despite having an obvious advantage! Not going to name names, but as we know not all the Butt’s driving ability is equal for an example! There are many examples of this! However young Carter has been around top drivers all of his life but has natural ability and will become one of our very best in the years ahead, if he stays in NZ! Ne dead heated for first with his very first drive, says it all really!

Probably wouldnt be in the good books nowadays with the RIU lol. Many true stories of Mr Ryan’s training techniques. MERRY XMAS and an interesting 2023 to everyone. Great punting if you are indulging and enjoy your family and friends!!

Dont agree but good to have different opinions. Personally believe Carter is better now even though he is far more inexperienced and will be more successful in the future. Sarah has done a great job though as well as a few other Juniors like the 3 Thornley’s!

Chief, things are continuing to deteriorate for this once great industry. People are being lost from the industry, whether it be punters, owners and buggerall new trainers think there is a future! Just can not be bothered having a go at the moment and being treated by the NZ TAB as a money launderer or criminal for wanting to have an investment on horses! Things are only going to worsen and the Suits need to wake up as it is going to get very dire otherwise. Personally do not think the Suits care about the industry only their pay cheque!!

Very worrying indeed. only 8 races first day so maybe many enthusiasts may not bother going over for the circuit? Only 7 starters in the Westport Cup for $20k. Plenty of racing around over the Xmas New Year and maybe the owners want to race at Motukarara rather than risking going to the Coast due to the costs and possibility of a wet track which often occurs. There are major storm clouds on the horizon for harness and the people making the decisions need to earn their large salaries!

Geez that is disappointing for harness , as used to have full fields. Yes cost of travel, accommodation costs and general cost of living as well as other things in play! Harness NZ has been asleep at the wheel for the past few decades and it is going to hit harness racing hard, as well as the recession that the Labour Government has caused and wants!

Yep there are just so many in authoritive positions that really should not be. No success in business but they somehow keep getting into these positions even though they are not flash. It is so important to get new people into racing whether it be punters or owners otherwise racing is stuffed. Charging a couple $20 is madness should be incentivising people to drive out to Rangiora race course not the other way around!

You are correct Ranga. Crowd never flash when it is wet snd the fact that they want to charge $20 to get in For nothing extra is very puzzling indeed. Hope Rangiora club do well today but know it is a dumb idea to charge when we need people to attend on course. We have lost a generation and dont think we are doing enough to attract newbies, eithout them industry is stuffed. What happened to the brainstorming?

Not knocking Sarah’s amazing achievements at all Gamma. I maintain that Carter has started off better than Sarah did, and doesn’t go to Manawatu that boosts a UDR. Carter will possibly go to the U.SA. Following Dexter in the next few years where he will be the goods over there. Carter is professional and grounded just as Sarah is. Great to have these Juniors around but we really fo need s lot more coming thru as they are pretty non existent in the North!

I posted awhile ago that I thought Carter Dalgety was the best junior we have had for a long while. Well Brodie is on the money! Yes Sarah o’Reilly is a top junior but I maintain Carter is every bit as good and even better. He is very professional for a young fellah and if he stays in the industry has a massive future. He has been very lucky to have learnt from the best!

Auckland I believe always goes up before Addington. Yes the odds should be up earlier as the NZ TAB will need as much betting now as I can guarantee that the turnover is going to drop off massively next year. So many will have no money to punt with after paying their mortgage and living costs due to having voted in the most incompetent bunch of muppets ever. Racing is going to come under even more pressure than currently they are. Cambridge race 2 with 4 minutes to go and there is just over 3k in the win pool. Situation is pretty dire

Do not want this to turn into a personal matter, and yes the ones that have left have spent a bit of time at the AllStars, before leaving! Have they all left on good terms, do you think?

Why would I like a leak from the stable Kane? Doesnt affect me whatsoever now! Does seem a wee bit puzzling Kane doesnt it? Talented horsemen having success at the stable and then all of a sudden they are gone?? Blair Orange, Tim Williams, Hayden Cullen and that Canadian fellah! Greg Payne and Ross Payne also left fairly quickly as well. You will be able to throw some light on it surely Kane? Dont shoot the messenger Kane, it was published on the HRNZ site with no reason for the dissolving of the partnership!

Very interesting this! Brodie knew that Cullen would not stay long being an employee at the AllStars stables! I wonder if he has picked up all the secrets that they use there and take them to the Telfers? This is going to make the Telfer/ Cullen partnership even stronger. Interesting that Tim Williams and Cullen have left AllStars and gone to Telfer’s. I do not believe that Purdon/ Rasmussen will be training in 2 years time!

Pretty sure it was trained by Graham and Paul Court. Did go some really good races in NZ, Paleface. To be fair most horses that can win 8 races in NZ and arent past their best are going to be winning races in Oz. It always had plenty of speed so sitting in the trail doing nothing was always going to be very tough!