mardigras

I know your English is poor. So is your maths. Only a nutter believes a non value runner can be included in a multi turning that runner into 'value'. But then you and an education never saw each other. No wonder you have to top up your account so often. Clueless.

That's funny, because it's your multis that lost the money. Win/place were a profit.

Yeah. Cos the industry is so flush with cash like HK.

In an industry with no money, because Thomass can't punt for shit, he wants to waste more money the industry doesn't have on something that won't help.

What a joke. Trainers can just set up shop at home. Like Dabernig and Hayes. Jumpouts? FFS, you're not right in the head. If you want to watch a jumpout, get off your fat arse and get to the track.

Quite happy to use your quotes. Also quite happy to put up the bets your post wrote about (without the post race fairytales). With full returns. And ROI. Would you like that. Less than the TAB takeout. Not bad - bit like a dartboard.

Yeah sorry gee, I knew that. I was referring to those that are in quarantine. I would never have backed Torcedor even if he came and was in the race. He was always a lay for me - based on what I'd said earlier in this thread.

My top 3 for the cup this year as at today are Muntahaa, Rostropovich and then Best Solution. The old fav, Withhold, I'd be prepared to bet that he will not be the favourite on the day - not even top 3 in my view.

Yes. Still, the list in quarantine is a decent one if they all make it.

You wlil always come back post race and talk up how things worked out. Even though it isn't what was stated. Let's not forget. Saver on these. And then, I don't do savers. Did you forget. I prefer to deal in what was written before the race. Not what you write post race - where you have a record of making up all kinds of shit. So nothing changes there. It'd be like me claiming a 14-1 multi on the two placegetters I picked recently. Which would be an example of fraud. Like you. You'll be back again, With another fairy tale. All these winnings yet you still trundle off to work. And keep feeding your TAB account. I wonder why.

Heck you are funny. Backtracking faster than a rabbit hunter encountering a grizzly bear. And even funnier is you claimed it was a day of poor value, yet now you're adding them in with equal stake. Stop it, my sides are hurting. Of course, you as usual do this all after the event. Nothing changes. You are a fraud.

Yep, a master class. Of how to get a return the same as using a dart.

And you're back for more. You go on about NZ racing nuances yet have shown you don't even understand the nuances of punting. You have humiliated yourself by not even knowing what a saver is. Now you're claiming all these bets from your loser selections all based on savers. If it wasn't so sad, it'd be funny.

Best advice for you. Give it another go. Perhaps avoid mentioning savers next time. Or do you need a lesson on them as well? Oh, and next time try and put some up that are somewhat similar in price to the ones you've managed to continually put up post race.

I know you think 'doesn't get a mile' means 'gets two miles'. Now it also seems you think 'saver' means 'back as if it is a normal selection'. Sadly, it doesn't mean that. Who knew, not you.

You're not still going on about selecting 4 horses, one wins at $2 and one places that you claimed was each way, and how great they were. You are easily pleased since if I had followed your advice, I would have lost money. Next time, write what it is you are going to claim after the events. Why did you bother coming back? You offer nothing.

And still no examples of state owned 'things' that don't have their own minister. Interesting.

I did say the government owns the TAB. I have never said it is a SOE. It is a statutory body. Next time, try and read. All revenue obtained by the TAB is dispensed at the discretion of the NZ government. Period. The only mentally challenged one on this particular topic would be you.

Yes, you have to fix tracks. I doubt you need to build any new ones. Why waste money doing that? They shouldn't even be using the word sustainability. That just makes them look stupid. Their 5 - 10 year goal should be to reduce dependency so that the focus is less on what they receive, but what they actually may be somewhat contributing. They will likely never be self sustainable again. The money targeted for new tracks could easily be used to over time, address the current track issues over the next 5 - 7 years. With a model designed to rework that in a cycle. If increasing stake is such an issue (i.e. for owners etc), run less races.

Yep, pretty fair comment. NZ racing punter interest has never been huge. And largely on the decrease. But it was sufficient even 10 yers ago. They needed to ensure whatever interest there was, was still on NZ racing rather than shifting that interest elsewhere. It's hard enough getting people to bet on racing, now it's nearly impossible to get them to bet on NZ racing.

They have left things so long and made so many bad decisions, their options have become limited. My view is that currently, NZ gallops racing actually makes zero net revenue through NZRB. Whilst some new tracks with updated technology may help with punter attraction, it won't be enough by themselves to right things. The overall confidence of punters betting on NZ racing won't be enhanced due to the majority of racing being on surfaces that aren't up to scratch. These are what need to be fixed. They should be pulling tracks out of racing on a rotation basis imo. Not spending vast sums on new tracks that won't actually be enough to stimulate punter investment across the year. Whatever they do will take time, but it has to be a wholesale approach, not a piecemeal one. They don't think long term. That is obvious. So they keep going forward (actually backwards?) with kneejerk reactions to situations (those situations coming about largely of their own making).

Can you give us a few examples.

Because the government should have overview of the money they are dishing out to the industry. And ideally stop it when those in charge are useless. If the industry can't do a good job with the largess, it would be a good idea for the government to simply stop the giving. It is government money after all.

As suspected, Torcedor not coming now. Not in quarantine.

Possibly because as at a few years back, the ratios on off-shore gallops vs the rest were less than the local ratio. Surprise, surprise. It's all about feathering one's own nest - stuff the rest.