Freda

And that is another thought apart from the affect new facilities close to the action may have on other areas. Funding these races? The idea is ( as I understand) to provide over-the-top money from the investments made. All well and good, if these investments remain profitable into the foreseeable future. But is that good business to pour profits down the sink? Betting revenues may increase as a result of improved quality of product, but will it be enough? And, as pointed out above- will there be expectations of additional funding from NZTR? Will - or should- the ARC be subsidizing the rest of NZ racing? I have heard a comment suggesting some clubs should expect less funding...but that is only hearsay I must point out.

No they don't. A huge point of difference.

In the last decade - or more - turnovers have not made any race a revenue-positive area, is my understanding. The lesser-staked meetings just lose less, that's all. Which is [ one reason ] why the wail about abandoned meetings costing millions is a crock. No stakes to pay out, no ancillary costs either, only costs are on the beleaguered stakeholders who in many cases have outlaid money for transport, staff wages, etc, for the raceday. So yes, novelty aside, I would think we would be in the same place as before wrt revenue. There seems to be little evidence statistically to indicate that betting will be worse, despite many comments about punters hating allweathers. Obviously, some do, but equally, others may not. After all, people bet on greyhounds, which I find an utter bore-fest - even though I love dogs, and have a rehomed greyhound. Can't see that there will be any significant change in punting behaviour really, although I'm no statistical expert.

More double posts....that gremlin still here.

Any luck? How about trying the vendor listed, you might get some info there.

No luck? How about contacting the vendor listed in the results, you might be able to get some help there. He/she/they would have to know who purchased and where she has gone.

some don't want to ??

Well, yes. My thoughts too. I was just pondering the likelihood of relocation of trainers to Riccarton which was considered very probable, following the new AWT and programming changes favouring that. For example, the Marsh team at the moment, has stables here and Cambridge. Would the Pukekohe option not be more attractive? Three stable bases? or pull Riccarton? Interesting times.

Any thoughts on the affects of this impending development of this area, whether is be a ' sale ' in its entirety, or a sell/lease type of deal ? If the mooted actions do in fact take place, with modern, purpose-built training facilities at Pukekohe, there may be trainers now incumbent at Cambridge or Matamata who see the proximity to the 'new' Ellerslie, with its Strathayr , much reduced travelling times, regular racing and and large stake increases, as being the next logical step forward for their businesses. Where, then, does that leave other regions [ particularly the Sth Island and specifically Riccarton ] in terms of appeal? Would a 'satellite' stable then be required for, say, a Cambridge trainer?

I think we all get your drift.

So, I walked twice round the track and up the chute looking for a lost plate on Sunday. The chute was very good, junction harder and quite rough, the rest of the track not too bad; but on the fence esp down the straight, like a ploughed paddock. So the riders weren't too far wrong by getting off the rail. Didn't find the plate either, although a couple of observers reckoned they could see it fly about at the junction.

Great video all right, sure brings back memories. Very easy to forget just how good some of these horses were.

A bit away from the headpost - and please correct me if I am wrong - but I think both Hendra and Ebola viruses are ' haemorrhagic' viruses....I recently watched a very interesting doco about the Black Death in the middle ages. This awful infection has been long assumed to be Bubonic Plague, but the researchers showed clearly that there were significant points of difference between the ' black death' and the later outbreaks of plague [ bacterial ], not the least being the differing populations of the black and brown rat at specific times. It did seem as if the black death may have been caused by a virus similar in its effects to the Hendra and Ebola ones.

She trained Silky Red Boxer for Albert, and the whole operation went from there really. I wasn't aware she went to Sydney, thought Chris went on his own.

Jocks I spoke to reckoned track fair with a nice bit of give. Well done, however that happened. Rail 4m out so shouldn't have been tricky on the 'fence '.

I'll give you a ( subjective ) report when I get home.

I'm not getting into a pointless argument that neither can win. Rightly or not, the codes have always had the ability to take away one's livelihood if one transgresses against their rules. It doesn't happen in the civil courts, unless a person's conviction results in imprisonment, or dismissal from a profession where ethics are paramount - legal, accounting, medical - where being 'struck off' can certainly stop your career in it's tracks. Codes and their management are under the pump bigtime for their collective ineptitude. But - IMO - this isn't contributing to the drop off in interest, nor is it anything new. It is always the way it was. Anyone could, if they want, challenge the system to modify itself. If anyone can be bothered, that is.

I'm not disagreeing with you. I'm just stating the facts as they exist at the moment. It's a parallel situation to the Millane/Molloy business. He thought the law was wrong - as it pertained to the disclosure matter - and therefore felt justified in breaking it. The same fella has vilified others for doing just that, namely breaking the law. Lobby to change the law, he was wont to say, don't break it. You know the score when applying for a licence, if you feel that strongly, don't put yourself in that position. And don't we see more of the same, when someone's wee darling wants longer hair/shorter skirts/piercings/tats that are not acceptable under a school's constitution? the school rules are quite clear when enrolling. Don't bloody well go there if you are going to be an arse.

We agree to abide by the rules of a code when being granted a licence.

You're very kind . But you are right for all that.

Ah. That'll be why I missed it then. FFS.

They would have been busy at Ruakaka...what about W Pinn's brain explosion in R 3?

Talking to Robbie Hannam when he was down, the Awapuni AWT hasn't been started yet, he said, and didn't know when it was likely to get going. I think he was quietly pleased he was still out on an injury break and not having to deal with it all!

That I can't answer. I was told 'made 20 million ' but when I queried whether that was before distribution or debt reduction, or other opex, he didn't know. I suspect it is more smoke and mirrors, personally, but then what would I know.😕

Sorry, typo...Dean McK