Shad Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Be a couple of cup hopefuls stepping out tomorrow, I guess they will be pleased the races have been rescheduled, rather than missing a race or having to trek South. Let's hope they get through the day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 And it was redone and resown 12 months ago after originally being sown four years prior. There'll also be no compaction layer. Despite 300 cows tramping round in there every couple of weeks year round, maybe monthly in winter. Definitely no sand slits... lol! No underground drainage systems either. A few moisture monitors that control the big low pressure down draft pivots that apply the irrigation evenly in almost any weather or wind conditions conditions. Like I said, we have hundreds who know how to do it. But to do so, you have to shut down for 12 -24 months and you need backup tracks for racing while that happens as we used to have. That's why this couple own a 1300 acre dairy farm milking 900 cows year round on grass. And a couple of others as well. As I said, it's not rocket science and we have the expertise and the tracks. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 9 minutes ago, wally said: i see theres a gap between the posts good access Sorry you've lost me wally. A gap between the posts? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wally Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 minute ago, curious said: Sorry you've lost me wally. A gap between the posts? just saying there looks an opening between the posts for people to walk thru Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, wally said: just saying there looks an opening between the posts for people to walk thru Oh....lol. I thought you meant the posts on this thread. No. Put your specs on. There's a wire boundary fence with a single strand electric on the other side. And a broken post which I'm hoping to replace tomorrow. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 11 hours ago, curious said: And it was redone and resown 12 months ago after originally being sown four years prior. There'll also be no compaction layer. Despite 300 cows tramping round in there every couple of weeks year round, maybe monthly in winter. Definitely no sand slits... lol! No underground drainage systems either. A few moisture monitors that control the big low pressure down draft pivots that apply the irrigation evenly in almost any weather or wind conditions conditions. Like I said, we have hundreds who know how to do it. But to do so, you have to shut down for 12 -24 months and you need backup tracks for racing while that happens as we used to have. That's why this couple own a 1300 acre dairy farm milking 900 cows year round on grass. And a couple of others as well. As I said, it's not rocket science and we have the expertise and the tracks. That's precisely why I say we would be foolish to close any tracks when with a bit of cooperation we could manage the surfaces like a good farmer does on a rotation basis. Long term dam sight cheaper than paying for multiple Strathayr tracks. The reality is we are never going to see a massive resurgence in on course attendance let alone turnover. So why the hell waste money on building infrastructure. The biggest day out I had at a race meeting was in a tent (poncy marquee) Wellington cup day in the in field. Toilet was one of those portable cabin things and the seats were $5 wharehouse specials. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Seen other dairy farms during the winter, if only they looked that good. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Shad said: Seen other dairy farms during the winter, if only they looked that good. There are plenty on the Coast(and vastly more in Canterbury as I thundered past on my way to see Bern at Oamaru last week) look better that that at this time of year when winter is long past. Mind you that might have been recently grazed. But the point that I continually make is that paddock will not (as Chief Stipe says) have been verti drained, sand slitted, reshaped to take out the 'undulations' or renovated other than a bloody good ploughing or, more likely in recent years, been sprayed out and resown. I challenge anyone to tell me a track in NZ that has undergone major renovation and come back any good(in the short term at least). Every single one of them has been a disaster and look out for Ellerslie to be no better. And Messara and his idiot devotees have major major major renovations in mind for each and every one of those 'keep' tracks. Like so many things in life the bigger the expert the less likely they are to have any idea what the hell they are talking about and pasture management 'experts' are as good an example as economists and weather forecasters. LEAVE THE BLOODY THINGS THE WAY GOD PUT THEM DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE! Resow them every few years, obviously spread some fert but other than that leave em alone! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Agree, all the upgrades have been a disaster, they couldn't help themselves and had to fiddle with them, i cant name any that have improved after a upgrade, more than likely to have a list of those that have been a ruined. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 7 hours ago, Reefton said: There are plenty on the Coast(and vastly more in Canterbury as I thundered past on my way to see Bern at Oamaru last week) look better that that at this time of year when winter is long past. Mind you that might have been recently grazed. But the point that I continually make is that paddock will not (as Chief Stipe says) have been verti drained, sand slitted, reshaped to take out the 'undulations' or renovated other than a bloody good ploughing or, more likely in recent years, been sprayed out and resown. I challenge anyone to tell me a track in NZ that has undergone major renovation and come back any good(in the short term at least). Every single one of them has been a disaster and look out for Ellerslie to be no better. And Messara and his idiot devotees have major major major renovations in mind for each and every one of those 'keep' tracks. Like so many things in life the bigger the expert the less likely they are to have any idea what the hell they are talking about and pasture management 'experts' are as good an example as economists and weather forecasters. LEAVE THE BLOODY THINGS THE WAY GOD PUT THEM DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE! Resow them every few years, obviously spread some fert but other than that leave em alone! Absolutely. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIME FOR CHANGE Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Tim, Tim, Tim a good CEO accepts when a mistake has been made. One of your staff cut the grass on Friday afternoon which caused the problem. Stop digging a hole !!!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 11 hours ago, Reefton said: There are plenty on the Coast(and vastly more in Canterbury as I thundered past on my way to see Bern at Oamaru last week) look better that that at this time of year when winter is long past. Mind you that might have been recently grazed. But the point that I continually make is that paddock will not (as Chief Stipe says) have been verti drained, sand slitted, reshaped to take out the 'undulations' or renovated other than a bloody good ploughing or, more likely in recent years, been sprayed out and resown. I challenge anyone to tell me a track in NZ that has undergone major renovation and come back any good(in the short term at least). Every single one of them has been a disaster and look out for Ellerslie to be no better. And Messara and his idiot devotees have major major major renovations in mind for each and every one of those 'keep' tracks. Like so many things in life the bigger the expert the less likely they are to have any idea what the hell they are talking about and pasture management 'experts' are as good an example as economists and weather forecasters. LEAVE THE BLOODY THINGS THE WAY GOD PUT THEM DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE! Resow them every few years, obviously spread some fert but other than that leave em alone! There seems to be an awful lot of 'experts' on here...and you're the doyen You should write the ex HK turf expert...NZTR's go to man...about your feelings and how you've got it all sorted... best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 Just now, Thomass said: There seems to be an awful lot of 'experts' on here...and you're the doyen You should write the ex HK turf expert...NZTR's go to man...about your feelings and how you've got it all sorted... best And you should go down to the Viaduct and see the 'expert' down there - he is just the bloke to fix you right up Like most Winston supporters you like to travel light between the ears 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Reefton said: And you should go down to the Viaduct and see the 'expert' down there - he is just the bloke to fix you right up Like most Winston supporters you like to travel light between the ears It just seems to be a total waste of 'talent'...wasting keyboard energy... ...when you, curious and the Stipe are so worldly wise... ...with all of the agrarian answers from years of sitting on your collective asses...sans pants... ...hands on...you do have your hands all over it don't yous fellas?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 30 minutes ago, Thomass said: It just seems to be a total waste of 'talent'...wasting keyboard energy... ...when you, curious and the Stipe are so worldly wise... ...with all of the agrarian answers from years of sitting on your collective asses...sans pants... ...hands on...you do have your hands all over it don't yous fellas?? Not all over a blow up princess like you. Do you think I should get one? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 (edited) 16 minutes ago, curious said: Not all over a blow up princess like you. Do you think I should get one? It just seems such a waste to have all of this hands on knowledge... ...when the Head of NZ Track Manager's...the Riccarton boy.. ...is putting grass clippings on at the 800M so they can slip around the tight turns.. was it his doing..or the doing of the neighbours at the 800M mark...who wanted to get rid of their freshys...instead of composting such?? Edited October 8, 2018 by Thomass 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 1 hour ago, Reefton said: Like most Winston supporters you like to travel light between the ears 1 hour ago, Thomass said: It just seems to be a total waste of 'talent'...wasting keyboard energy... ...when you, curious and the Stipe are so worldly wise... ...with all of the agrarian answers from years of sitting on your collective asses...sans pants... ...hands on...you do have your hands all over it don't yous fellas?? I rest my case If you cannot put a coherent sentence together I would suggest you don't bother trying to contribute Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted October 8, 2018 Share Posted October 8, 2018 13 minutes ago, Reefton said: I rest my case If you cannot put a coherent sentence together I would suggest you don't bother trying to contribute MOI'S speciality is to do da short sharp hard hitting point stuff... ...so the salient points ain't missed...ok? You...and your mob of amatuer turf specialists...get butt along to... Timmy Mills office...spade and turf advice in hand... ...your talents are obviously wasted on here best Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 41 minutes ago, Thomass said: MOI'S speciality is to do da short sharp hard hitting point stuff... ...so the salient points ain't missed...ok? You...and your mob of amatuer turf specialists...get butt along to... Timmy Mills office...spade and turf advice in hand... ...your talents are obviously wasted on here best Your talent is being a plonker. And if I may say someone who works as hard as you at your talent as you do deserves to be as good at it as you are. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
von Smallhaussen Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 6 hours ago, TIME FOR CHANGE said: Stop digging a hole !!!!! they were digging a hole to bury the dirt left over from the last hole they dug ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Bob Bradley was up with the play when it came to grass not that smoking stuff. He used to be the green keeper at Russley for many years. Dont think there would be anyone sharper than Bob regarding turf Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FeelTheFear Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 Anyone know the official time for the first race at Riccarion yesterday? NZR have the 800m race winner Puysegur clocking 32.69. I know they run fast at Riccarton but bloody hell!! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 46.25 it says 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 (edited) oh that's on the NZTR site .... TAB says Winners Time: 48.38 Anyone's guess .... they are trying to attract punters. Edited October 10, 2018 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 10, 2018 Share Posted October 10, 2018 How the hell can the TAB and NZTR have entirely different times posted for this race? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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