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And it was redone and resown 12 months ago after originally being sown four years prior. There'll also be no compaction layer. Despite 300 cows tramping round in there every couple of weeks year round, maybe monthly in winter. Definitely no sand slits... lol! No underground drainage systems either. A few moisture monitors that control the big low pressure down draft pivots that apply the irrigation evenly in almost any weather or wind conditions conditions. Like I said, we have hundreds who know how to do it. But to do so, you have to shut down for 12 -24 months and you need backup tracks for racing while that happens as we used to have.

That's why this couple own a 1300 acre dairy farm milking 900 cows year round on grass. And a couple of others as well. As I said, it's not rocket science and we have the expertise and the tracks.

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2 minutes ago, wally said:

 just saying there looks an opening between the posts for people to walk thru

Oh....lol. I thought you meant the posts on this thread. No. Put your specs on. There's a wire boundary fence with a single strand electric on the other side. And a broken post which I'm hoping to replace tomorrow.

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11 hours ago, curious said:

And it was redone and resown 12 months ago after originally being sown four years prior. There'll also be no compaction layer. Despite 300 cows tramping round in there every couple of weeks year round, maybe monthly in winter. Definitely no sand slits... lol! No underground drainage systems either. A few moisture monitors that control the big low pressure down draft pivots that apply the irrigation evenly in almost any weather or wind conditions conditions. Like I said, we have hundreds who know how to do it. But to do so, you have to shut down for 12 -24 months and you need backup tracks for racing while that happens as we used to have.

That's why this couple own a 1300 acre dairy farm milking 900 cows year round on grass. And a couple of others as well. As I said, it's not rocket science and we have the expertise and the tracks.

That's precisely why I say we would be foolish to close any tracks when with a bit of cooperation we could manage the surfaces like a good farmer does on a rotation basis.

Long term dam sight cheaper than paying for multiple Strathayr tracks.

The reality is we are never going to see a massive resurgence in on course attendance let alone turnover.

So why the hell waste money on building infrastructure.  

The biggest day out I had at a race meeting was in a tent (poncy marquee) Wellington cup day in the in field.  Toilet was one of those portable cabin things and the seats were $5 wharehouse specials.

 

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1 hour ago, Shad said:

Seen other dairy farms during the winter, if only they looked that good.

There are plenty on the Coast(and vastly more in Canterbury as I thundered past on my way to see Bern at Oamaru last week) look better that that at this time of year when winter is long past.  Mind you that might have been recently grazed.

But the point that I continually make is that paddock will not (as Chief Stipe says) have been verti drained, sand slitted, reshaped to take out the 'undulations' or renovated other than a bloody good ploughing or,  more likely in recent years, been sprayed out and resown.

I challenge anyone to tell me a track in NZ that has undergone major renovation and come back any good(in the short term at least).  Every single one of them has been a disaster and look out for Ellerslie to be no better.  And Messara and his idiot devotees have major major major renovations in mind for each and every one of those 'keep' tracks.

Like so many things in life the bigger the expert the less likely they are to have any idea what the hell they are talking about and pasture management 'experts' are as good an example as economists and weather forecasters.

LEAVE THE BLOODY THINGS THE WAY GOD PUT THEM DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE!  Resow them every few years, obviously spread some fert but other than that leave em alone!

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7 hours ago, Reefton said:

There are plenty on the Coast(and vastly more in Canterbury as I thundered past on my way to see Bern at Oamaru last week) look better that that at this time of year when winter is long past.  Mind you that might have been recently grazed.

But the point that I continually make is that paddock will not (as Chief Stipe says) have been verti drained, sand slitted, reshaped to take out the 'undulations' or renovated other than a bloody good ploughing or,  more likely in recent years, been sprayed out and resown.

I challenge anyone to tell me a track in NZ that has undergone major renovation and come back any good(in the short term at least).  Every single one of them has been a disaster and look out for Ellerslie to be no better.  And Messara and his idiot devotees have major major major renovations in mind for each and every one of those 'keep' tracks.

Like so many things in life the bigger the expert the less likely they are to have any idea what the hell they are talking about and pasture management 'experts' are as good an example as economists and weather forecasters.

LEAVE THE BLOODY THINGS THE WAY GOD PUT THEM DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE!  Resow them every few years, obviously spread some fert but other than that leave em alone!

Absolutely.

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11 hours ago, Reefton said:

There are plenty on the Coast(and vastly more in Canterbury as I thundered past on my way to see Bern at Oamaru last week) look better that that at this time of year when winter is long past.  Mind you that might have been recently grazed.

But the point that I continually make is that paddock will not (as Chief Stipe says) have been verti drained, sand slitted, reshaped to take out the 'undulations' or renovated other than a bloody good ploughing or,  more likely in recent years, been sprayed out and resown.

I challenge anyone to tell me a track in NZ that has undergone major renovation and come back any good(in the short term at least).  Every single one of them has been a disaster and look out for Ellerslie to be no better.  And Messara and his idiot devotees have major major major renovations in mind for each and every one of those 'keep' tracks.

Like so many things in life the bigger the expert the less likely they are to have any idea what the hell they are talking about and pasture management 'experts' are as good an example as economists and weather forecasters.

LEAVE THE BLOODY THINGS THE WAY GOD PUT THEM DOWN IN THE FIRST PLACE!  Resow them every few years, obviously spread some fert but other than that leave em alone!

There seems to be an awful lot of 'experts' on here...and you're the doyen 

You should write the ex HK turf expert...NZTR's go to man...about your feelings and how you've got it all sorted...

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Just now, Thomass said:

There seems to be an awful lot of 'experts' on here...and you're the doyen 

You should write the ex HK turf expert...NZTR's go to man...about your feelings and how you've got it all sorted...

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And you should go down to the Viaduct and see the 'expert' down there - he is just the bloke to fix you right up

Like most Winston supporters you like to travel light between the ears 

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2 minutes ago, Reefton said:

And you should go down to the Viaduct and see the 'expert' down there - he is just the bloke to fix you right up

Like most Winston supporters you like to travel light between the ears 

It just seems to be a total waste of 'talent'...wasting keyboard energy...

...when you, curious and the Stipe are so worldly wise...

...with all of the agrarian answers from years of sitting on your collective asses...sans pants...

...hands on...you do have your hands all over it don't yous fellas??

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30 minutes ago, Thomass said:

It just seems to be a total waste of 'talent'...wasting keyboard energy...

...when you, curious and the Stipe are so worldly wise...

...with all of the agrarian answers from years of sitting on your collective asses...sans pants...

...hands on...you do have your hands all over it don't yous fellas??

Not all over a blow up princess like you. Do you think I should get one?

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16 minutes ago, curious said:

Not all over a blow up princess like you. Do you think I should get one?

It just seems such a waste to have all of this hands on knowledge...

...when the Head of NZ Track Manager's...the Riccarton boy..

...is putting grass clippings on at the 800M so they can slip around the tight turns..

was it his doing..or the doing of the neighbours at the 800M mark...who wanted to get rid of their freshys...instead of composting such??

 

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1 hour ago, Reefton said:

 

Like most Winston supporters you like to travel light between the ears 

 

1 hour ago, Thomass said:

It just seems to be a total waste of 'talent'...wasting keyboard energy...

...when you, curious and the Stipe are so worldly wise...

...with all of the agrarian answers from years of sitting on your collective asses...sans pants...

...hands on...you do have your hands all over it don't yous fellas??

I rest  my case

If you cannot put a coherent sentence together I would suggest you don't bother trying to contribute

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13 minutes ago, Reefton said:

 

I rest  my case

If you cannot put a coherent sentence together I would suggest you don't bother trying to contribute

MOI'S speciality is to do da short sharp hard hitting point stuff...

...so the salient points ain't missed...ok?

You...and your mob of amatuer turf specialists...get butt along to...

Timmy Mills office...spade and turf advice in hand...

...your talents are obviously wasted on here

best

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41 minutes ago, Thomass said:

MOI'S speciality is to do da short sharp hard hitting point stuff...

...so the salient points ain't missed...ok?

You...and your mob of amatuer turf specialists...get butt along to...

Timmy Mills office...spade and turf advice in hand...

...your talents are obviously wasted on here

best

Your talent is being a plonker.

And if I may say someone who works as hard as you at your talent as you do deserves to be as good at it as you are.

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