~The Champions sprint...because...

[curious]

32 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

So what's your point about ratings and their use for punting?

I don't care how you derive them - plenty of successful ways - but a punter has to have them to price markets otherwise how do you assess whether an available price is worth taking? Just need to have ratings that are more accurate than the bookie's.

[holy ravioli]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Isn't that obvioius?

Not to me,it's not...as I said they are just opinions...i.e

'Surprisingly, no sign of her in the top 120 of the recently released Longines' ratings through November 5.'👈

[holy ravioli]

50 minutes ago, curious said:

I don't care how you derive them - plenty of successful ways - but a punter has to have them to price markets otherwise how do you assess whether an available price is worth taking? Just need to have ratings that are more accurate than the bookie's.

The flaw in your argument is you only find out ...after the...race!

I try to concentrate on who is the most likely winner of the race,cogniscent of the many variables that are at play ,that have no regard for a variety of ...ratings.

[Chief Stipe]

23 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

Not to me,it's not...as I said they are just opinions...i.e

'Surprisingly, no sign of her in the top 120 of the recently released Longines' ratings through November 5.'👈

Wasn't the Champions Sprint on November 12?

[Chief Stipe]

20 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

I try to concentrate on who is the most likely winner of the race,cogniscent of the many variables that are at play ,that have no regard for a variety of ...ratings.

How do you work that out?  Gut feel?

[curious]

30 minutes ago, holy ravioli said:

I try to concentrate on who is the most likely winner of the race, cogniscent of the many variables that are at play ,that have no regard for a variety of ...ratings.

OK. That's a very different approach to mine as a punter. I have no interest in assessing which horse will be most likely to win an event, even though I have that assessment. On the basis that every horse has a chance of doing so, even if that is less than 1%, I'm trying to find horses which have a chance significantly better than the bookies assessment. I have little interest in figuring out the horse most likely to win.

[holy ravioli]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

How do you work that out?  Gut feel?

I look at...form.

[holy ravioli]

1 hour ago, curious said:

OK. That's a very different approach to mine as a punter. I have no interest in assessing which horse will be most likely to win an event, even though I have that assessment. On the basis that every horse has a chance of doing so, even if that is less than 1%, I'm trying to find horses which have a chance significantly better than the bookies assessment. I have little interest in figuring out the horse most likely to win.

Well....if that works for you...all good.

[holy ravioli]

1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said:

Wasn't the Champions Sprint on November 12?

When did you post Dan O'Sullivans...ratings?🙄

[holy ravioli]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

How do you work that out?  Gut feel?

Oh dear....now I see what a highly sophisticated S.O.H....looks..like!😂

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, holy ravioli said:

I look at...form.

Except you rate some form differently to others.  Didn't you think Imperatriz's Valley form wasn't as good as The Everest?

[holy ravioli]

9 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Except you rate some form differently to others.  Didn't you think Imperatriz's Valley form wasn't as good as The Everest?

Correct.

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, holy ravioli said:

When did you post Dan O'Sullivans...ratings?🙄

If I recall correctly the ratings I posted from O'Sullivan was a comparison of the individual race ratings straight after the Maniakato and The Everest.  They weren't the overall horse ratings.  Imperatriz will have climbed up those after her Champions Sprint win.

[Doomed]

I must say, Ravioli has manged to stretch a fairly simplistic argument over 9 pages already, with no sign of it stopping any time soon.

Surely there comes a time when you just have to say "what's the point" and let him drift off.

[Chief Stipe]

42 minutes ago, Doomed said:

I must say, Ravioli has manged to stretch a fairly simplistic argument over 9 pages already, with no sign of it stopping any time soon.

Surely there comes a time when you just have to say "what's the point" and let him drift off.

You're right should stop feeding the founder.

[holy ravioli]

Yes the Chief has the record...on this thread..93 posts...you see he always wants to have..the last..word.😐

[Chief Stipe]

On that note since it's clear @holy ravioli has no understanding of any number of things related to Thoroughbred Racing

....Topic closed.

(Geez who would bother counting all the posts!)