National Party??

[hesi]

And the earth's magnetic poles did reverse this morning when blue blooded Hoskings(can't stand the walloper), talked about how well the coalition was working together, with no major problems.

[Flagship uberalles]

28 minutes ago, Reefton said:

Yeah hard to pick who is best for them.  Judith is clearly unacceptable to the Caucus, Nikki Kaye has health issues, Bridges is clearly average at best, Mitchell has his Middle East history to contend with which leaves Amy Adams.  It could be worse - thank God Nathan Guy is no hope! Their lack of empathy with racing is a real worry but Winston and Messara are liable to leave no racing game to worry about anyway. People in the know tell me a bird called Nicola Willis is the rising star - only got in when Joyce resigned but was John Key's speechwriter (I think) and apparently the real deal but probably too soon for her in 2 years time.  I didn't much like the ease with which non Kiwis could buy assets here but not too much international demand on the Coast so didn't really affect me.  Aucklanders did well out of international buying interest and Auckland is where the votes are so there was a method in the madness

I can't see the Nats getting in next election, not until the baby is 5 and loses its appeal!! The women politicians seem much stronger than the men now.....The males are a complete bunch of drips.. the world of politics in nz is upside down!

[Reefton]

41 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Reefton, 

If i was you mate, i wouldnt worry about Winnie, i would worry about you imploding national party. Its a disgrace what has happened last few weeks. Winnie & Jacindy are pissing themselves laffin at you and your party. 

I'm not worrying about Winnie NM as I said he will shoot himself in the foot soon enough.  When you are as slippery as he is sooner or later your conniving behaviour eventually catches up.  As for Javindy 'laffin' she has been quiet because she knows people who live in glass houses need to be bloody careful about chucking stones.  She is only here for a short while and has to be careful not to become cannon fodder when witless Win inevitably explodes.  She has a tough job with all the halfwits in her caucus and coalition.  Thats the difference between Simon and Jacinda - he has one maybe two loose cannons - she has a government chocka with them.

[Reefton]

46 minutes ago, hesi said:

And the earth's magnetic poles did reverse this morning when blue blooded Hoskings(can't stand the walloper), talked about how well the coalition was working together, with no major problems.

Funny last time I looked Mike Hoskings was the number one rating host on NZ radio. Fifty million blow flies can't be wrong.

[hesi]

3 minutes ago, Reefton said:

Funny last time I looked Mike Hoskings was the number one rating host on NZ radio. Fifty million blow flies can't be wrong.

In your case sand flies

"At their worst, in the most intense sandfly-ridden spots of the West Coast, entomologists have recorded a bite rate of up to 1000-an-hour. In a couple of minutes, that could be hundreds of little bites, on your arms, neck, face, feet.

Sandflies, on a minute level, rip and tear the flesh to open the skin and access blood, using anti-coagulating qualities of saliva to feed. It's histamine that causes the itching and swelling."

[barryb]

A low night on TV Hesi?

I have family suffering from food poisoning from a school event where the idiots including myself ate some of the food the lefties supplied, you lot always try and sneak up on us humans and now poisoning us is a new low.

 

[barryb]

Just read an article on stuff regarding the Royals visit and how 48% of Kiwis think it’s a huge waste of $1mill, that 48% will be your lot and spoonhead greens, many of which are too farking stupid to realise they are one of the worlds most photographed and talked about couples. This trip is some of the best advertising NZ can get for its produce and tourism numbers, and $1m really? Who gives a fark. Buckloads more is wasted on dumb causes that contribute nothing at all.

Read the posts underneath to get the flavour of how stupid many in this country are.

[Skelly]

2 hours ago, barryb said:

Buckloads more is wasted on dumb causes that contribute nothing at all.

Like not changing a flag...

[Reefton]

6 hours ago, hesi said:

In your case sand flies

"At their worst, in the most intense sandfly-ridden spots of the West Coast, entomologists have recorded a bite rate of up to 1000-an-hour. In a couple of minutes, that could be hundreds of little bites, on your arms, neck, face, feet.

Sandflies, on a minute level, rip and tear the flesh to open the skin and access blood, using anti-coagulating qualities of saliva to feed. It's histamine that causes the itching and swelling."

Yes and despite the fact the place is sandfly ridden your dope smoking non showering crackpot green mates (another branch of the coalition of loonies) will insist they are endangered and that nobody can touch them. The only living things they are happy to see eliminated are the poor bastards trying to ekk out a living  in places like Taranaki and the Coast.  One thing the Fruit Loops in the Labour led government hate with a passion  is anyone who is productive. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Poisoned Dwarf]

On 26/10/2018 at 4:04 AM, barryb said:

Just read an article on stuff regarding the Royals visit and how 48% of Kiwis think it’s a huge waste of $1mill, that 48% will be your lot and spoonhead greens, many of which are too farking stupid to realise they are one of the worlds most photographed and talked about couples. This trip is some of the best advertising NZ can get for its produce and tourism numbers, and $1m really? Who gives a fark. Buckloads more is wasted on dumb causes that contribute nothing at all.

Read the posts underneath to get the flavour of how stupid many in this country are.

eh ? World Champions in domestic violence and youth suicide ! Gold medals galore

[Newmarket]

On 27/10/2018 at 5:49 AM, Reefton said:

Yes and despite the fact the place is sandfly ridden your dope smoking non showering crackpot green mates (another branch of the coalition of loonies) will insist they are endangered and that nobody can touch them. The only living things they are happy to see eliminated are the poor bastards trying to ekk out a living  in places like Taranaki and the Coast.  One thing the Fruit Loops in the Labour led government hate with a passion  is anyone who is productive. 

 

 

 

 

 

I would have thought that you would be happy that the coalition is in process of entering mine, to give closure to families of those killed. You remember, Key promised to do it, then said it was too dangerous? Crook of shit, didnt bother him because it was gonna cost money, would rather waste money on flag memo. 

You surprise me Reefton, for every one thing national did right for the coast area, i bet i can tell you 2 things they did wrong. 

[Kakama]

You wouldn't think bridges could hold on much longer....

[Turny]

Toast but the real problem is they don't have a Cindy or anyone with a modicum of charisma, they all come across as bitter people with a negative slant on everything - we are over it after 9 years of B.S. from John

[Reefton]

59 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

I would have thought that you would be happy that the coalition is in process of entering mine, to give closure to families of those killed. You remember, Key promised to do it, then said it was too dangerous? Crook of shit, didnt bother him because it was gonna cost money, would rather waste money on flag memo. 

You surprise me Reefton, for every one thing national did right for the coast area, i bet i can tell you 2 things they did wrong. 

No comment re the Pike other than to say the is a lot more to that than ever came out in the media.  I have to live here.

[hesi]

On 27/10/2018 at 12:04 AM, barryb said:

Just read an article on stuff regarding the Royals visit and how 48% of Kiwis think it’s a huge waste of $1mill, that 48% will be your lot and spoonhead greens, many of which are too farking stupid to realise they are one of the worlds most photographed and talked about couples. This trip is some of the best advertising NZ can get for its produce and tourism numbers, and $1m really? Who gives a fark. Buckloads more is wasted on dumb causes that contribute nothing at all.

Read the posts underneath to get the flavour of how stupid many in this country are.

Harry and Meghan on their way to NZ now, aboard a NZ Air Force plane.

Noteworthy, is that the NZ Invictus Games team is also on the same plane.

That must be great for those athletes, considering the games was Harry's doing, and I'm sure they will get a chance to spend a bit of time talking to the couple

[Poisoned Dwarf]

On 26/10/2018 at 7:00 AM, Skelly said:

Like not changing a flag...

silly Kiwis, had a golden opportunity to change the flag and lost out.......

[Reefton]

13 hours ago, Newmarket said:

I would have thought that you would be happy that the coalition is in process of entering mine, to give closure to families of those killed. You remember, Key promised to do it, then said it was too dangerous? Crook of shit, didnt bother him because it was gonna cost money, would rather waste money on flag memo. 

You surprise me Reefton, for every one thing national did right for the coast area, i bet i can tell you 2 things they did wrong. 

I surprise you?  You don't even know me.

Why would the National Party want to do anything for the Coast anyway?  No political party is good for the West Coast nor any of rural NZ.

In our case (1) there are no votes her and (2) because the average West Coaster has some sort of hangup about the depression they invariably vote Labour(embarrassing and infuriating but there you are).  And the Labour Party continues to drive the boot fair into our guts - last time they were in it was the native forestry industry this time the mining industry they will shut down - in Lange's years like all rurual areas we last huge numbers of jobs and even more services.

There is parallel here of course - why would the National Party want to help the NZ Racing Industry?  (1) there are no votes there - anyone in the industry with a modicum of intelligence votes National any how and I for one am not going to base my vote on the benefit of the NZ racing Industry ESPECIALLY now it has made it quite clear to me that I and my ilk are no longer required and (2) the 'fat cats' in the industry are bankrolling NZ First and have Winston in their pocket.  That might be a successful short term strategy(remember the $1m races?) but Winston never lasts because,as I have told you several times in this thread, he cannot help but make a prick of himself and it will happen again.

And you can say what you like about John Key - he was stunningly successful before he got into power(versus a fish n chip wrapper), donated all his salary to charity and despite your piffle on the Pike question I happen to know he went out of his way to personally help a victim of another West Coast tragedy INCLUDING making personal trips down here (officially described as undisclosed purposes).  He neither sought nor got publicity for that but I bet the person in question will be forever grateful for his help.

 

 

 

[Newmarket]

Reefton, 

Winston never lasts? Mate your joking, this guy has been around for years. I think many national supporters, yourself included, are pissed off that the coalition is sort of working. National said it would all come tumbling down, but really it is national that is self destructing. 

 

[barryb]

I don’t think it’s self destructing NM, just re inventing itself, poll results certainly don’t say destruction.

It has a leader who is very temporary, he will fill the meantime gap and then be replaced. The Labour Party is Jacinda, remove her and it’s nothing, she is charismatic for sure and likeable enough. The public are cutting her slack because of smoke screens like babies etc, marriage will be the next smoke screen if the fog starts clearing, that will give her another 12 months. The danger if Win falls is she will be alone with the greens and that’s unpalatable to even many Labour voters.

Hesi will think I have flipped here but both Lange and Clark were necessary and ultimately good for NZ, Jacinda has her chance to leave a legacy mark on NZ like they did, let’s hope for all of us it’s positive.

[hesi]

1 hour ago, barryb said:

I don’t think it’s self destructing NM, just re inventing itself, poll results certainly don’t say destruction.

It has a leader who is very temporary, he will fill the meantime gap and then be replaced. The Labour Party is Jacinda, remove her and it’s nothing, she is charismatic for sure and likeable enough. The public are cutting her slack because of smoke screens like babies etc, marriage will be the next smoke screen if the fog starts clearing, that will give her another 12 months. The danger if Win falls is she will be alone with the greens and that’s unpalatable to even many Labour voters.

Hesi will think I have flipped here but both Lange and Clark were necessary and ultimately good for NZ, Jacinda has her chance to leave a legacy mark on NZ like they did, let’s hope for all of us it’s positive.

I've said from the day I started the Jacinda Ardern thread on the multi coloured flip flop site, 6 weeks before the election, that Ardern has a lot more mettle to her than many give her credit for.  Bridges is finding out just how difficult it is to lead a party.

She not only did it, but did it in the pressure cooker environment of 6 weeks before an election, taking Labour from 22 to 37% and putting them in a position to be a viable Government.

That is phenomenal, so already she has left a legacy, a very much unfinished one

And remember, I've been a life long Nats supporter until recently.

It's working between Peters and Ardern, because Peters respects her, and her views.  All the other stuff you read is fake news and humbug

If you recall, on the night he went with Labour, the whole thrust of his speech, was that capitalism wasn't working for the majority of NZ'ers, that would be the 56% who did not vote for the Nats

[Gospel of Judas]

On 26/10/2018 at 10:01 PM, Reefton said:

Yeah hard to pick who is best for them.  Judith is clearly unacceptable to the Caucus, Nikki Kaye has health issues, Bridges is clearly average at best, Mitchell has his Middle East history to contend with which leaves Amy Adams.  It could be worse - thank God Nathan Guy is no hope! Their lack of empathy with racing is a real worry but Winston and Messara are liable to leave no racing game to worry about anyway. People in the know tell me a bird called Nicola Willis is the rising star - only got in when Joyce resigned but was John Key's speechwriter (I think) and apparently the real deal but probably too soon for her in 2 years time.  I didn't much like the ease with which non Kiwis could buy assets here but not too much international demand on the Coast so didn't really affect me.  Aucklanders did well out of international buying interest and Auckland is where the votes are so there was a method in the madness

Nicola Willis is another light weight list mp with no hope. She another one of these went from University straight into politics without any real world experience. Lived in wellington bubble all her life and is too into government tit be any good. It be Amy Adams if Bridges goes or Nikki Kaye. Other one may have good chance is Todd Muller and another rising star is Andrew Bayly.

[barryb]

5 hours ago, hesi said:

I've said from the day I started the Jacinda Ardern thread on the multi coloured flip flop site, 6 weeks before the election, that Ardern has a lot more mettle to her than many give her credit for.  Bridges is finding out just how difficult it is to lead a party.

She not only did it, but did it in the pressure cooker environment of 6 weeks before an election, taking Labour from 22 to 37% and putting them in a position to be a viable Government.

That is phenomenal, so already she has left a legacy, a very much unfinished one

And remember, I've been a life long Nats supporter until recently.

It's working between Peters and Ardern, because Peters respects her, and her views.  All the other stuff you read is fake news and humbug

If you recall, on the night he went with Labour, the whole thrust of his speech, was that capitalism wasn't working for the majority of NZ'ers, that would be the 56% who did not vote for the Nats

Rubbish Hesi, no legacy as she’s done nothing yet, other than raise taxes and kill off Oil and Taranaki,  given away money NatIonal produced to a few left supporters, what legacy?.

And your comment is nonsense about capitalism as she has come in and embraced it,  changed nothing and is not intending too. You are bamboozled like a lot of others by the constant media attention on side issues she has got.

[pete]

5 hours ago, hesi said:

I've said from the day I started the Jacinda Ardern thread on the multi coloured flip flop site, 6 weeks before the election, that Ardern has a lot more mettle to her than many give her credit for.  Bridges is finding out just how difficult it is to lead a party.

She not only did it, but did it in the pressure cooker environment of 6 weeks before an election, taking Labour from 22 to 37% and putting them in a position to be a viable Government.

That is phenomenal, so already she has left a legacy, a very much unfinished one

And remember, I've been a life long Nats supporter until recently.

It's working between Peters and Ardern, because Peters respects her, and her views.  All the other stuff you read is fake news and humbug

If you recall, on the night he went with Labour, the whole thrust of his speech, was that capitalism wasn't working for the majority of NZ'ers, that would be the 56% who did not vote for the Nats

So because you suddenly had a midlife crisis and embraced the dark side it must flow on that JA is wonderful because you think so?

Also anyone who says capitalism doesn't work is clearly on the sauce.

Socialism doesn't work. Never has. Never will.

Venezuela anyone?

[Newmarket]

8 hours ago, barryb said:

I don’t think it’s self destructing NM, just re inventing itself, poll results certainly don’t say destruction.

It has a leader who is very temporary, he will fill the meantime gap and then be replaced. The Labour Party is Jacinda, remove her and it’s nothing, she is charismatic for sure and likeable enough. The public are cutting her slack because of smoke screens like babies etc, marriage will be the next smoke screen if the fog starts clearing, that will give her another 12 months. The danger if Win falls is she will be alone with the greens and that’s unpalatable to even many Labour voters.

Hesi will think I have flipped here but both Lange and Clark were necessary and ultimately good for NZ, Jacinda has her chance to leave a legacy mark on NZ like they did, let’s hope for all of us it’s positive.

Sort if agree, but i see no one in National that can match jacinda for preferred PM? That is why they were always going to struggle after Key left, people liked him on a  personal level, he was always doing a few goofy things, which people liked, i thought he was great. 

But just listening to bridges this morning on tv, he is a slimey rat, polls suggest even nats dont like him. Here he is on tv, complaining about the cost of living, and THAT WAGES ARE NOT KEEPING UP???

FFS, this guy is gotta be joking, why are so many striking, because no wages went up previously under national. Have family members that work in health sector, until pay increase this year, their pay had not increased for 6 years!!!

[pete]

Agreed Newmarket. I'm no Bridges fan but even less of an Ardern/Peters fan.

The low wage economy we have is historical. It goes way back before the last National government. The Clark years were just as bad, worse probably, because they saw fit to impose a "'rich prick's tax" and institutionalised a whole layer of NZ society by introducing Working For Families.

Edited October 28, 2018 by pete