Yankiwi Posted March 21, 2024 Author Share Posted March 21, 2024 On 21/03/2024 at 6:09 AM, Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers said: https://www.grnz.co.nz/News/3173/Racing-and-Trialling-suspended-at-Manukau-Stadium Expand It's about time. 23/24 Season 3rd Quarter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted March 21, 2024 Share Posted March 21, 2024 (edited) On 10/03/2024 at 9:01 AM, Chief Stipe said: Why anyone would bother responding to Chazza online I have no idea. Expand Well he obviously cant back his claims up. Would love to know what he did with a dog in 3 days to think itd qualify again. I imagine its more likely he was hoping the dog would get through one trial so he could then race it and the dog do the same thing race day. Edited March 21, 2024 by BitofaLegend Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 22, 2024 Author Share Posted March 22, 2024 Dec 2022 Industry Progress Report to Govt. https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Advisories/GRNZ Industry Progress Report 12 December 2022.pdf I believe it's time GRNZ wielded their "strict enforcement capabilities & penalties" out and got to the bottom of just what happened with the Dec 2023 AHWC meeting. Then this. After I had started investigating & shared this data. The two tracks that lead the pack in terms of low rates of injury were Wanganui & Southland. MD Claimed first Manukau & Cambridge. Then he changed his mind to Manawatu & Cambridge after I had posted the data on BOAY. There are only six tracks in the country. MD guessed (or lied) about three of them leading the pack, which were all wrong. His inaccuracies/lies put a major roadblock into GRNZ's integrated governance. If the information provided was open & honest (compounded by trying to change history once under the microscope), accurate information (at the time) would have led to accurate recommendations being provided to GRNZ Executive & Board meetings. If welfare underpins everything GRNZ does (as they claim), then MD will be removed from his responsibilities reporting to the AHWC meetings & someone who will provide the committee with accurate & honest information will be put in his place, at a minimum. The industry as a whole is up at stake & examples such as this only hasten its demise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers Posted March 23, 2024 Share Posted March 23, 2024 (edited) On 22/03/2024 at 9:11 PM, Yankiwi said: Dec 2022 Industry Progress Report to Govt. https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Advisories/GRNZ Industry Progress Report 12 December 2022.pdf I believe it's time GRNZ wielded their "strict enforcement capabilities & penalties" out and got to the bottom of just what happened with the Dec 2023 AHWC meeting. Then this. After I had started investigating & shared this data. The two tracks that lead the pack in terms of low rates of injury were Wanganui & Southland. MD Claimed first Manukau & Cambridge. Then he changed his mind to Manawatu & Cambridge after I had posted the data on BOAY. There are only six tracks in the country. MD guessed (or lied) about three of them leading the pack, which were all wrong. His inaccuracies/lies put a major roadblock into GRNZ's integrated governance. If the information provided was open & honest (compounded by trying to change history once under the microscope), accurate information (at the time) would have led to accurate recommendations being provided to GRNZ Executive & Board meetings. If welfare underpins everything GRNZ does (as they claim), then MD will be removed from his responsibilities reporting to the AHWC meetings & someone who will provide the committee with accurate & honest information will be put in his place, at a minimum. The industry as a whole is up at stake & examples such as this only hasten its demise. Expand That graphic says ‘Monthly’ Animal Health and Welfare Committee meetings? But the dates say otherwise… Edited March 23, 2024 by Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 23, 2024 Author Share Posted March 23, 2024 (edited) On 23/03/2024 at 5:48 AM, Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers said: That graphic says ‘Monthly’ Animal Health and Welfare Committee meetings? But the dates say otherwise… Expand Yep, that's what GRNZ does. They make a claim they are doing everything they can for welfare. We're going to hold a monthly meeting! Then they hold one fairly regularly between March & November 2022. We've done it! Welfare underpins everything we do! Then they've done such a great job in their own mind, monthly meetings aren't required anymore. The holiday season is coming & we need a break. (Meanwhile the tracks start to dry up, serious injuries start to rise) We better hold another meeting in February. February rolls around, major injuries are thru the roof & they have their meeting... Welcome back everyone, that sure was a nice break. Maybe we should hold the meeting every second month. Let's have a vote. The vote passes & meetings are now bimonthly. They get thru a winter with the KPI injury numbers met during the safe racing season & sing their own praises. Spring takes hold and injuries start to increase so MD says Cambridge & Manukau lead the pack, nothing clearly changed for November. The rest of this story is pretty well documented in the various thread here, except for this bit. Let's make the meeting more fun (and much more expensive). We deserve it! Edited March 23, 2024 by Yankiwi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 28, 2024 Author Share Posted March 28, 2024 So how does this work? Today at Palmy. How does a dog get vetted after a race, cleared of injury & receive a 10-day injury stand-down? Really? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstar Posted March 29, 2024 Share Posted March 29, 2024 On 28/03/2024 at 8:10 AM, Yankiwi said: So how does this work? Today at Palmy. How does a dog get vetted after a race, cleared of injury & receive a 10-day injury stand-down? Really? Expand Because the best thing for the dog was not to race next week. It’s not all about injuries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 29, 2024 Author Share Posted March 29, 2024 Rule 41(1) does not allow for an uninjured dog to receive an injury stand-down. Try again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 29, 2024 Share Posted March 29, 2024 On 29/03/2024 at 8:24 AM, Yankiwi said: Rule 41(1) does not allow for an uninjured dog to receive an injury stand-down. Try again. Expand It doesn't specifically disallow either. Have another go @Yankiwi Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 29, 2024 Author Share Posted March 29, 2024 I see they have now corrected the history. Funny that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 29, 2024 Share Posted March 29, 2024 On 29/03/2024 at 8:55 PM, Yankiwi said: I see they have now corrected the history. Funny that. Expand Cool you had another go. Well done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstar Posted March 30, 2024 Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 29/03/2024 at 8:24 AM, Yankiwi said: Rule 41(1) does not allow for an uninjured dog to receive an injury stand-down. Try again. Expand Perhaps if you were at the vet check you would know more 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 30, 2024 Author Share Posted March 30, 2024 On 30/03/2024 at 4:33 AM, Goldstar said: Perhaps if you were at the vet check you would know more Expand I'm only allowed to know so much & that's what the Steward reports. I analyzed what the Steward had reported & there was an inconsistency. I brought the inconsistency up on the BOAY forum. A Steward was the one that got it wrong & has since fixed it. I instantly became the bad guy. So be it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted April 11, 2024 Share Posted April 11, 2024 Sometimes the galloping Stipes Reports are laughable too. Have you found that interpretation varies a lot in everything these days? I wonder about the standard of education some people have been subjected to. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 11, 2024 Author Share Posted April 11, 2024 Hmmm. How does the #2 lead at the first marker, when it never near the lead in the race whatsoever? And how does the #3 clearly lead into the corner, before putting the brakes on, receive a "775" in the form line? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 11, 2024 Author Share Posted April 11, 2024 Hey @aquaman, Rick Quirk says the #3 lost ground & the unnamed vet gave it a 21-day standdown because of shin soreness. DALTON BAXTER (3) - referred to Veterinarian after losing ground and reported to have left shin soreness with a 21 day incapacitation issued. Looks more like FTP than losing ground to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 11, 2024 Share Posted April 11, 2024 On 11/04/2024 at 8:39 PM, Yankiwi said: Hey @aquaman, Rick Quirk says the #3 lost ground & the unnamed vet gave it a 21-day standdown because of shin soreness. DALTON BAXTER (3) - referred to Veterinarian after losing ground and reported to have left shin soreness with a 21 day incapacitation issued. Looks more like FTP than losing ground to me. Expand 3 fails to pursue, clearly puts brakes on 1st bend, should of been put out. Most Stipes cannot read races, especially the ex cops. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 14, 2024 Author Share Posted April 14, 2024 Here's one you couldn't make up, unless you're an inept Steward. I guess when the lure is BEHIND the lead greyhound it doesn't affect the outcome of the race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted April 19, 2024 Share Posted April 19, 2024 On 11/04/2024 at 3:15 AM, Special Agent said: Sometimes the galloping Stipes Reports are laughable too. Have you found that interpretation varies a lot in everything these days? I wonder about the standard of education some people have been subjected to. Expand Same. I might be nitpicking, but they are a hard read sometimes. And the transgressions that are missed, or misinterpreted, are alarming. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted April 20, 2024 Share Posted April 20, 2024 It seems to me across the three codes it is expressed to participants they must be more professional. I think our leaders should lead by example. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers Posted April 20, 2024 Share Posted April 20, 2024 Given you don’t need any qualifications or experience, it’s not really surprising (but woo, If you’re a steward you get to drive a branded car 🤦♂️) https://www.seek.co.nz/job/74978840 On 11/04/2024 at 3:15 AM, Special Agent said: Sometimes the galloping Stipes Reports are laughable too. Have you found that interpretation varies a lot in everything these days? I wonder about the standard of education some people have been subjected to. Expand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yankiwi Posted April 21, 2024 Author Share Posted April 21, 2024 Much better today! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 21, 2024 Share Posted April 21, 2024 Was on the winner there, you can just see his little black paw about to hit the sand first, led all the way at 2.80, go you good thing. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted April 22, 2024 Share Posted April 22, 2024 On 21/04/2024 at 9:26 PM, aquaman said: Was on the winner there, you can just see his little black paw about to hit the sand first, led all the way at 2.80, go you good thing. Expand You always had a good affinity with a stayer. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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