Yankiwi Posted March 21 Author Share Posted March 21 12 minutes ago, Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers said: https://www.grnz.co.nz/News/3173/Racing-and-Trialling-suspended-at-Manukau-Stadium It's about time. 23/24 Season 3rd Quarter. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted March 21 Share Posted March 21 (edited) On 10/03/2024 at 10:01 PM, Chief Stipe said: Why anyone would bother responding to Chazza online I have no idea. Well he obviously cant back his claims up. Would love to know what he did with a dog in 3 days to think itd qualify again. I imagine its more likely he was hoping the dog would get through one trial so he could then race it and the dog do the same thing race day. Edited March 21 by BitofaLegend Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 22 Author Share Posted March 22 Dec 2022 Industry Progress Report to Govt. https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Advisories/GRNZ Industry Progress Report 12 December 2022.pdf I believe it's time GRNZ wielded their "strict enforcement capabilities & penalties" out and got to the bottom of just what happened with the Dec 2023 AHWC meeting. Then this. After I had started investigating & shared this data. The two tracks that lead the pack in terms of low rates of injury were Wanganui & Southland. MD Claimed first Manukau & Cambridge. Then he changed his mind to Manawatu & Cambridge after I had posted the data on BOAY. There are only six tracks in the country. MD guessed (or lied) about three of them leading the pack, which were all wrong. His inaccuracies/lies put a major roadblock into GRNZ's integrated governance. If the information provided was open & honest (compounded by trying to change history once under the microscope), accurate information (at the time) would have led to accurate recommendations being provided to GRNZ Executive & Board meetings. If welfare underpins everything GRNZ does (as they claim), then MD will be removed from his responsibilities reporting to the AHWC meetings & someone who will provide the committee with accurate & honest information will be put in his place, at a minimum. The industry as a whole is up at stake & examples such as this only hasten its demise. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers Posted March 23 Share Posted March 23 (edited) 8 hours ago, Yankiwi said: Dec 2022 Industry Progress Report to Govt. https://www.grnz.co.nz/Files/Advisories/GRNZ Industry Progress Report 12 December 2022.pdf I believe it's time GRNZ wielded their "strict enforcement capabilities & penalties" out and got to the bottom of just what happened with the Dec 2023 AHWC meeting. Then this. After I had started investigating & shared this data. The two tracks that lead the pack in terms of low rates of injury were Wanganui & Southland. MD Claimed first Manukau & Cambridge. Then he changed his mind to Manawatu & Cambridge after I had posted the data on BOAY. There are only six tracks in the country. MD guessed (or lied) about three of them leading the pack, which were all wrong. His inaccuracies/lies put a major roadblock into GRNZ's integrated governance. If the information provided was open & honest (compounded by trying to change history once under the microscope), accurate information (at the time) would have led to accurate recommendations being provided to GRNZ Executive & Board meetings. If welfare underpins everything GRNZ does (as they claim), then MD will be removed from his responsibilities reporting to the AHWC meetings & someone who will provide the committee with accurate & honest information will be put in his place, at a minimum. The industry as a whole is up at stake & examples such as this only hasten its demise. That graphic says ‘Monthly’ Animal Health and Welfare Committee meetings? But the dates say otherwise… Edited March 23 by Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 23 Author Share Posted March 23 (edited) 14 hours ago, Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers said: That graphic says ‘Monthly’ Animal Health and Welfare Committee meetings? But the dates say otherwise… Yep, that's what GRNZ does. They make a claim they are doing everything they can for welfare. We're going to hold a monthly meeting! Then they hold one fairly regularly between March & November 2022. We've done it! Welfare underpins everything we do! Then they've done such a great job in their own mind, monthly meetings aren't required anymore. The holiday season is coming & we need a break. (Meanwhile the tracks start to dry up, serious injuries start to rise) We better hold another meeting in February. February rolls around, major injuries are thru the roof & they have their meeting... Welcome back everyone, that sure was a nice break. Maybe we should hold the meeting every second month. Let's have a vote. The vote passes & meetings are now bimonthly. They get thru a winter with the KPI injury numbers met during the safe racing season & sing their own praises. Spring takes hold and injuries start to increase so MD says Cambridge & Manukau lead the pack, nothing clearly changed for November. The rest of this story is pretty well documented in the various thread here, except for this bit. Let's make the meeting more fun (and much more expensive). We deserve it! Edited March 23 by Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 28 Author Share Posted March 28 So how does this work? Today at Palmy. How does a dog get vetted after a race, cleared of injury & receive a 10-day injury stand-down? Really? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstar Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 19 hours ago, Yankiwi said: So how does this work? Today at Palmy. How does a dog get vetted after a race, cleared of injury & receive a 10-day injury stand-down? Really? Because the best thing for the dog was not to race next week. It’s not all about injuries. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 Rule 41(1) does not allow for an uninjured dog to receive an injury stand-down. Try again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 10 hours ago, Yankiwi said: Rule 41(1) does not allow for an uninjured dog to receive an injury stand-down. Try again. It doesn't specifically disallow either. Have another go @Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 29 Author Share Posted March 29 I see they have now corrected the history. Funny that. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 29 Share Posted March 29 1 hour ago, Yankiwi said: I see they have now corrected the history. Funny that. Cool you had another go. Well done. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Goldstar Posted March 30 Share Posted March 30 20 hours ago, Yankiwi said: Rule 41(1) does not allow for an uninjured dog to receive an injury stand-down. Try again. Perhaps if you were at the vet check you would know more 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 30 Author Share Posted March 30 4 hours ago, Goldstar said: Perhaps if you were at the vet check you would know more I'm only allowed to know so much & that's what the Steward reports. I analyzed what the Steward had reported & there was an inconsistency. I brought the inconsistency up on the BOAY forum. A Steward was the one that got it wrong & has since fixed it. I instantly became the bad guy. So be it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 Sometimes the galloping Stipes Reports are laughable too. Have you found that interpretation varies a lot in everything these days? I wonder about the standard of education some people have been subjected to. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 Hmmm. How does the #2 lead at the first marker, when it never near the lead in the race whatsoever? And how does the #3 clearly lead into the corner, before putting the brakes on, receive a "775" in the form line? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 11 Author Share Posted April 11 Hey @aquaman, Rick Quirk says the #3 lost ground & the unnamed vet gave it a 21-day standdown because of shin soreness. DALTON BAXTER (3) - referred to Veterinarian after losing ground and reported to have left shin soreness with a 21 day incapacitation issued. Looks more like FTP than losing ground to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 11 Share Posted April 11 13 minutes ago, Yankiwi said: Hey @aquaman, Rick Quirk says the #3 lost ground & the unnamed vet gave it a 21-day standdown because of shin soreness. DALTON BAXTER (3) - referred to Veterinarian after losing ground and reported to have left shin soreness with a 21 day incapacitation issued. Looks more like FTP than losing ground to me. 3 fails to pursue, clearly puts brakes on 1st bend, should of been put out. Most Stipes cannot read races, especially the ex cops. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted April 14 Author Share Posted April 14 Here's one you couldn't make up, unless you're an inept Steward. I guess when the lure is BEHIND the lead greyhound it doesn't affect the outcome of the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted April 19 Share Posted April 19 On 11/04/2024 at 3:15 PM, Special Agent said: Sometimes the galloping Stipes Reports are laughable too. Have you found that interpretation varies a lot in everything these days? I wonder about the standard of education some people have been subjected to. Same. I might be nitpicking, but they are a hard read sometimes. And the transgressions that are missed, or misinterpreted, are alarming. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 It seems to me across the three codes it is expressed to participants they must be more professional. I think our leaders should lead by example. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seeyounexttuesdaytrainers Posted April 20 Share Posted April 20 Given you don’t need any qualifications or experience, it’s not really surprising (but woo, If you’re a steward you get to drive a branded car 🤦♂️) https://www.seek.co.nz/job/74978840 On 4/11/2024 at 3:15 PM, Special Agent said: Sometimes the galloping Stipes Reports are laughable too. Have you found that interpretation varies a lot in everything these days? I wonder about the standard of education some people have been subjected to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Yankiwi Posted April 21 Author Share Posted April 21 Much better today! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted April 21 Share Posted April 21 Was on the winner there, you can just see his little black paw about to hit the sand first, led all the way at 2.80, go you good thing. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted April 22 Share Posted April 22 3 hours ago, aquaman said: Was on the winner there, you can just see his little black paw about to hit the sand first, led all the way at 2.80, go you good thing. You always had a good affinity with a stayer. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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