Honestly Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 No no yankiwi your very smart I can see what your saying and I agree 100% I will not go low and hit you with any degrading comments. I trust your judgment and understanding every bit of information your providing me . Look if this is what your looking for I’ll give it to you. Yankiwi you are right the riu have no idea what they are doing . Thread over and out yankiwi you win 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 1 hour ago, Yankiwi said: Is the other race in question? There's a big difference between a dog wanting out from an inside draw & a dog missing the jump & running into the rail! An even bigger difference, is this dog is noted as: "HI HO TONTO (2) - Slow to begin.Shifted outwards after the start jostling with outside runner .Racing manners warning." As for racing manners warning, what ever that is, the only thing in a Stewards hands to do according to the rule book, is declare it an unsatisfactory performance & require the dog to undergo a satisfactory trail. This dog looked like it had been on the turps for a week , certainly looked like it didn’t know where it was . There’s no such thing as a racing manners warning. Can’t understand where they get these people from . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 46 minutes ago, Honestly said: No no yankiwi your very smart I can see what your saying and I agree 100% I will not go low and hit you with any degrading comments. I trust your judgment and understanding every bit of information your providing me . Look if this is what your looking for I’ll give it to you. Yankiwi you are right the riu have no idea what they are doing . Thread over and out yankiwi you win In your defence, it was Jason (and it was his post I had replied to) that claimed the race couldn't be fixed because there was 7 other potential winners. A bit of math proves that his statement couldn't be further from the truth. Knowingly stop a red hot favourite from jumping, thus throwing the stakes money away & make a killing by other means.... Each of the bets (of the 7) placed with a different overseas bookie. When it's done, 6 of the bookies will have you near the top of their Christmas card list & the 7th will have his eye a bit closer on you. Would Jason like to laugh at my post too, as he did with your post, thus laughing at himself? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feel The Fritter Posted December 30, 2018 Author Share Posted December 30, 2018 I happened to follow this boy right from the time I saw him breaking in..Just have a look at his previous replays and racing pattern and compare that race to his others. Good ol Trev had a big opinion of him too..Admittingly to me he appeared to be racing a little sore in a couple of prior races but hell he raced that day Incoherently and was completely lost..The replay has cut out some part going into and around the bend which is a shame but look at him when he crosses the line, he was floundering without purpose until his handler who took a while to get to him and when Tonto finally clicked he was at the races..and where he was!!. It is the subtle outside opinions into possibilities that the likes of Yankiwi, Aquaman,Obrien, Cichlid etc bring to the forum that could just help turn around the devious side of the sport and they are not failures but caring unregistered followers that have the dogs best interest at heart.. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 16 minutes ago, Feel The Fritter said: It is the subtle outside opinions into possibilities that the likes of Yankiwi, Aquaman,Obrien, Cichlid etc bring to the forum that could just help turn around the devious side of the sport and they are not failures but caring unregistered followers that have the dogs best interest at heart.. Been a few years now since I've been an LP. It's been roughly two years since I've given up on the punt. I have nothing to gain personally other than possibly a "thank you for your help in saving the sport" one day. Hopefully I get it at the time I believe that the sport is indeed safe. That is not now & it's a long way off at the current rate of improvment The three biggest areas of concern, at least in my mind, are as follows (in order of priority) Welfare (fully support but not the area my energies are best spent). Integrity (where 99% of my attention is). Conflicts of interest (others are much more versed with their longer interest in the sport). There's always going to be some rat bags at ownership & training levels. But where we are now & have been for some time is the police of the code (RIU) turn their blind eye to most if not all the problems with them. That said, the sport flutters along in anocracy. The GRNZ Board have the ultimate power over the running of the code & are so full of conflicts that there can never be any integrity at that level under the current rulership. How did one of the countries top trainers end up with a position on the board? Who ultimately hired Mr Rendle in the first place? Then Mr Holden took charge, but who put him it the position & where did that get us? If someone's got the balls to take on those three areas & get them sorted, then the sport has a chance. If any one of the three are not acted on with urgency, then the long term destiny of the sport is already etched in stone. More rules & policies are not the answer. Enforce the ones that are already there and they'd quickly find they can probably delete 1/3 of the current rulebook as it became redundant. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 30, 2018 Share Posted December 30, 2018 Another potential example from today's races. Hypothetically, If someone had put the brakes on the #8 so it wouldn't get out of the boxes & you were sure the brakes had been applied. $1000 win #7 = $41000 $4000 win #6 = $40000 $4000 win #5 = $40000 $5000 win #3 = $40000 $6000 win #2 = $42000 $5000 win #1 = $45000 Total investment = $25000 Minimum return = $40000 Move the decmal point one place & total investment could be $2500 with a minimum return of $4000. $1500 from other means far out weighs a $793 winning purse, and you don't get put up a grade! With a red hot favourite in a race with the brakes on, it's nothing to do with the other dogs form or ability, it's about the math. When was the last time anyone has seen a dog swabbed for severely under performing or doing something crazy & way out of character, like the Addington incident? I can't remember one instance. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tounge Up the cheeks Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 When questioned regarding the reversal of form of ALL BLACK STAR which had run last at his two previous starts before winning well today, Trainer E Duganzich could offer no tangible reason for the improvement. Is this the trainer up presently on two "Class A" doping charges? Very Closely alligned to Cole with these dogs and known for his lightning trips to Aussie. This fella has been so pissed at the traps with his dogs at times He would definately not know any Tangible reason for anything.. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tounge Up the cheeks Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 What about Race 7 and the HOTTIE Bigtime Liam? Have a look at this boys run. He was struggling to say the least. Sent to the vet but no conclusion mentioned in the report ( Whiterod at his best) Why wasnt he not swabbed and the betting pattern of Brazil Cambara not checked.... ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 I’ve heard the same thing about Earl from a trainer friend from that area, is pissed as a fart out on the track, but Whiterod is in their camp so let’s it slide. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 1 hour ago, Tounge Up the cheeks said: When questioned regarding the reversal of form of ALL BLACK STAR which had run last at his two previous starts before winning well today, Trainer E Duganzich could offer no tangible reason for the improvement. Is this the trainer up presently on two "Class A" doping charges? Very Closely alligned to Cole with these dogs and known for his lightning trips to Aussie. This fella has been so pissed at the traps with his dogs at times He would definately not know any Tangible reason for anything.. Which class a drug? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 Another in the CD... Same old excuse... http://www.jca.org.nz/non-race-day-hearings/non-raceday-inquiry-riu-v-pb-briggs-decision-dated-24-december-2018-chair-mr-t-utikere Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 31, 2018 Share Posted December 31, 2018 With only a couple of hours before 2018 is behind us, a brilliant idea has just come to mind (and you'll soon figure out why). Obviously the RIU needs a complete revamp for integrity to gain a foot hold within the Greyhound code. With that I have a name I'd like to put forward, to take over the running of the RIU. Many here will already know her, some more intimately than others, but most will have had at least some kind of dealing with her in the past. Her name is Stella Artois. I suppose a few haven't had a chance yet to meet her in person, so I've trawled the internet and come up with her photo. Happy new year everyone. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 5, 2019 Share Posted January 5, 2019 On 30/12/2018 at 6:55 PM, Yankiwi said: Been a few years now since I've been an LP. It's been roughly two years since I've given up on the punt. I have nothing to gain personally other than possibly a "thank you for your help in saving the sport" one day. Hopefully I get it at the time I believe that the sport is indeed safe. That is not now & it's a long way off at the current rate of improvment The three biggest areas of concern, at least in my mind, are as follows (in order of priority) Welfare (fully support but not the area my energies are best spent). Integrity (where 99% of my attention is). Conflicts of interest (others are much more versed with their longer interest in the sport). There's always going to be some rat bags at ownership & training levels. But where we are now & have been for some time is the police of the code (RIU) turn their blind eye to most if not all the problems with them. That said, the sport flutters along in anocracy. The GRNZ Board have the ultimate power over the running of the code & are so full of conflicts that there can never be any integrity at that level under the current rulership. How did one of the countries top trainers end up with a position on the board? Who ultimately hired Mr Rendle in the first place? Then Mr Holden took charge, but who put him it the position & where did that get us? If someone's got the balls to take on those three areas & get them sorted, then the sport has a chance. If any one of the three are not acted on with urgency, then the long term destiny of the sport is already etched in stone. More rules & policies are not the answer. Enforce the ones that are already there and they'd quickly find they can probably delete 1/3 of the current rulebook as it became redundant. As a matter of interest can anyone name conflicts of interest on our present board.? This failed group has been deliberately manipulated to suit the objectives of a certain few who, while not now, are serving on the current board still have a huge influence on present racing..What has this Board of Poor acheivers done for Licenced holders a part from put us all in a serious situation that is presently on going. Just go back a while and look at the blunders and embarrasment we have had to endure... Mario Barsi and Craig Rendle I trust you have had a good break over Xmas, many and their dogs have struggled as a result directly from your dispicable intentions.... Holden you got $100 000 k up front to start your term of failure turning up four days a week and that could have gone a long way towards our now dead dogs welfare.. Steele have you discussed "MIlkshaking" with the elite you are now amongst in your new position? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 8, 2019 Share Posted January 8, 2019 Race 2 today ..Did the Stipe put the wrong dog out?... I reckon Diode the 5 is a cunning harraser....He won't last long either!!..... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 Race 6 at Wanga Bigtime Willow (4) stipes comments be interesting Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 6.30 pm and still no Stipes Report from Wanganui Dogs today...Why is this? With all the facilities and tools available why cant the reports be posted within reason, after each race? The replays, photo finish, and stipes reports could be up on the site as it happens.....WHY NOT? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feel The Fritter Posted January 9, 2019 Author Share Posted January 9, 2019 18 hours ago, cichlid said: Race 6 at Wanga Bigtime Willow (4) stipes comments be interesting BIGTIME WILLOW # 4 race 6 was stood down for 3 months ( second offence under rule 55.1 ) failing to pursue and to the completion of a satisfactory trial. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 3 months , probably die mysteriously at the hands of the white poodle 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 20 minutes ago, Arsenic said: 3 months , probably die mysteriously at the hands of the white poodle Now if the welfare officer employed at great expense by the over staffed, and under achieving NZGRA, they would put a watch on this dog, and monitor its future. This should apply to all dogs given tickets. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 9, 2019 Share Posted January 9, 2019 50 minutes ago, aquaman said: Now if the welfare officer employed at great expense by the over staffed, and under achieving NZGRA, they would put a watch on this dog, and monitor its future. This should apply to all dogs given tickets. Likewise Homebush Connor from Addington the other day. Bet you a pound to a pinch of goat shit his tail don't wag no more.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 6 hours ago, cichlid said: Likewise Homebush Connor from Addington the other day. Bet you a pound to a pinch of goat shit his tail don't wag no more.... By my count, Connor was less than 15 months old when he qualified & 15 months + 1 week when he had his first start. Edited January 10, 2019 by Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Date Venue Plc Cls Dist Box Bend Wgt SP Winner/Second Marg. Win BON Stake 04 Jan 19 ADD 8 of 8 C0 295m 3 888 36.0 $24.90 Raptor Attack tL4hLN 17.58 17.09 14 Sep 18 ADD 7 of 8 C0 295m 3 467 31.9 $22.50 Reign Of Fire 2qL1tL1qL 17.65 17.33 11 Sep 18 DUN 8 of 8 C0 310m 2 388 32.1 $26.90 Homebush Carl tL3L1hL 19.03 18.56 07 Sep 18 ADD 8 of 8 C0 295m 6 888 31.5 $52.30 Nelso Allen 5hLhL1tL 17.33 17.29 04 Sep 18 ASCP 5 of 8 C0 390m 8 555 31.0 $23.10 Homebush Flynn 1qL1hLhL 23.30 22.48 $20.00 28 Aug 18 DUN 7 of 8 C0 310m 7 467 30.8 $29.00 Loco Lola 1tL4tL1L 18.67 18.35 21 Aug 18 ASCP 5 of 8 C0 390m 2 155 30.8 $23.90 Springheel Jack tLhL3hL 23.26 22.48 $20.00 17 Aug 18 ADD 8 of 8 C0 295m 7 688 30.7 $31.40 Coming Of Love 1qL4qL1qL 17.57 17.21 14 Aug 18 DUN 4th of 5 Trial 310m Norton Baxter N5qL1LN 19.72 27 Jul 18 ADD 6 of 8 C0 295m 2 156 30.6 $13.40 Smash Reward 2hLtL3tL 17.64 17.32 $20.00 20 Jul 18 ADD 8 of 8 C0 295m 5 378 30.8 $19.90 Call Me Archie 2LtL7L 17.51 17.44 13 Jul 18 ADD 6 of 8 C0 295m 7 566 30.4 $21.40 Goldstar Tasman H2L2tL 18.19 17.32 $20.00 10 Jul 18 DUN 8 of 8 C0 310m 2 588 30.8 $11.80 Homebush Nesbo 1hLtL4tL 19.14 18.52 06 Jul 18 ADD 8 of 8 C0q 295m 2 688 30.4 $8.00 Zara Nixon 3qL2qL1tL 17.46 17.29 28 Jun 18 ADD 1st of 4 Trial 295m Dreamy Baxter 1tqL1tqL1L 18.30 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 This dog was last raced after finishing a long last again OVER 4 kg in weight. His connections said it was intentional.!! He ran like a dog that was severly out of condition so what were the intentions.. Is this boy still alive Scott Wallis? (stipe of devious means) I doubt it.. Mcinnerney there is no place for dog farmers any more.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, cichlid said: Date Venue Plc Cls Dist Box Bend Wgt SP Winner/Second Marg. Win BON Stake 04 Jan 19 ADD 8 of 8 C0 295m 3 888 36.0 $24.90 Raptor Attack tL4hLN 17.58 17.09 14 Sep 18 ADD 7 of 8 C0 295m 3 467 31.9 $22.50 Reign Of Fire 2qL1tL1qL 17.65 17.33 11 Sep 18 DUN 8 of 8 C0 310m 2 388 32.1 $26.90 Homebush Carl tL3L1hL 19.03 18.56 07 Sep 18 ADD 8 of 8 C0 295m 6 888 31.5 $52.30 Nelso Allen 5hLhL1tL 17.33 17.29 04 Sep 18 ASCP 5 of 8 C0 390m 8 555 31.0 $23.10 Homebush Flynn 1qL1hLhL 23.30 22.48 $20.00 28 Aug 18 DUN 7 of 8 C0 310m 7 467 30.8 $29.00 Loco Lola 1tL4tL1L 18.67 18.35 21 Aug 18 ASCP 5 of 8 C0 390m 2 155 30.8 $23.90 Springheel Jack tLhL3hL 23.26 22.48 $20.00 17 Aug 18 ADD 8 of 8 C0 295m 7 688 30.7 $31.40 Coming Of Love 1qL4qL1qL 17.57 17.21 14 Aug 18 DUN 4th of 5 Trial 310m Norton Baxter N5qL1LN 19.72 27 Jul 18 ADD 6 of 8 C0 295m 2 156 30.6 $13.40 Smash Reward 2hLtL3tL 17.64 17.32 $20.00 20 Jul 18 ADD 8 of 8 C0 295m 5 378 30.8 $19.90 Call Me Archie 2LtL7L 17.51 17.44 13 Jul 18 ADD 6 of 8 C0 295m 7 566 30.4 $21.40 Goldstar Tasman H2L2tL 18.19 17.32 $20.00 10 Jul 18 DUN 8 of 8 C0 310m 2 588 30.8 $11.80 Homebush Nesbo 1hLtL4tL 19.14 18.52 06 Jul 18 ADD 8 of 8 C0q 295m 2 688 30.4 $8.00 Zara Nixon 3qL2qL1tL 17.46 17.29 28 Jun 18 ADD 1st of 4 Trial 295m Dreamy Baxter 1tqL1tqL1L 18.30 Doctor Mairi Stewart. Did you ever think this dogs racing performance was a Welfare issue? Do you still think it is? Where is the dog now? A bloody disgrace..... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Agree. The dog was never given a chance being flogged at such a young age, clearly just thrown in the paddock then thrown into the races to see what would happen. We will all be watching to see where this dog ends up. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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