Yankiwi Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) Maybe it's time for the rule to be looked at & revised? 45.11 Where the weight of a Greyhound recorded at a Meeting varies by more than one and a half (1.5) kilograms from the weight recorded in a Race in which it last performed that Greyhound shall be permitted to compete in the current Race but the Trainer of the Greyhound shall be guilty of an Offence unless permission has been granted under Rule 45.12. 45.12 Where a Greyhound is presented for a Race and such Greyhound is competing for a Trainer other than the Trainer at its last start the Stewards shall waive any Penalty that would otherwise be imposed for any weight variance. Permission shall be granted by Stewards for a Greyhound recording a weight variance of more than one and a half (1.5) kilograms to start in a Race provided that such Greyhound has not performed in any Race during the preceding 28 days, and no fine shall be imposed. For the avoidance of doubt, the day of the dog's last start shall be counted as a day for the purposes of the 28 days. Seems there's no other option than for the Steward to allow an over/under weight dog to race. Possibly a new clause added into rule 45.11, requiring a dog to preform a satisfactory trial if there's a weight variance of 2kg's or more since it's last start. In Connors case, it had been 3 1/2 month since his previous start. What would be the drawback to waiting another few days for a race start to allow the time (and added integrity for the betting public) to complete a satisfactory trial? Edited January 10, 2019 by Yankiwi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 2 hours ago, CrossCodes said: We will all be watching to see where this dog ends up. Everyone in Greyhounds knows where it will end up , like all the thousands that have been moved on over the years . They should be closed down 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arsenic Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 If Greyhounds New Zealand followed the rule book the Coles and the McInerneys would be out . God wouldn’t it be a wonderful code to be in involved in , it would flourish with those two ” Leeches Gone “ The trouble is the Management is all talk no substance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhounder Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 13 hours ago, Arsenic said: Everyone in Greyhounds knows where it will end up , like all the thousands that have been moved on over the years . They should be closed down They get away with murder... last Friday meeting at Addington race 12 he put the wrong number on.the dog then realised when the real number 5 came out after stir up. Haven't seen a Mcinerney move so fast when sprinted back to the kennel block for a quick change. Not a stipe in sight. For one thing should he have been allowed to.leave the rest of the field anyway....anything could have happened in the 5 seconds it took in the kennel block... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feel The Fritter Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 Manakau Race 6 5.O'Neill Monelli Holiday ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 17 minutes ago, Feel The Fritter said: Manakau Race 6 5.O'Neill Monelli Holiday ? Have not had look at replay, but from what I observed, looked like turning its head coming up home straight. That is to the dog on its outer. Is that what you saw Fritter?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Started long before the home straight 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feel The Fritter Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, aquaman said: Have not had look at replay, but from what I observed, looked like turning its head coming up home straight. That is to the dog on its outer. Is that what you saw Fritter?. Dankiwi is right up with play Mr Waters. :) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feel The Fritter Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 If Yankiwi can produce quality pictures like this ...WHY can't the stipes give us ths same quality and reasoning with their reports ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonMc Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 O'NEILL MONELLI (race 6) stood down 3 months and until the completion of a satisfactory trial under Rule 55.1a marring 2nd offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestly Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Yankiwi I think you missed one or did you not see the Addington races Friday? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 I don't have a SKY subscription & I no longer have a TAB account. Therefore, I don't see any races at all, only replays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestly Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Fair call just have a look if you have time it was a number 5 in the first four races can’t remember what race now , sorry tell me what you think . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brando Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, JasonMc said: O'NEILL MONELLI (race 6) stood down 3 months and until the completion of a satisfactory trial under Rule 55.1a marring 2nd offence. Geez this bitch is lucky that it's only the "2nd' marring offence. Came to NZ with 1 marring offence from its very first career race and another 2 Unsatisfactory Perfomances which looked dodgy. And turned it's head before 1st bend in its last start in Aussie. Marring Offence - 1st start from the red: https://www.thedogs.com.au/resources/showvideoplayerracing.aspx?s=youtube&q=CMySVRBSdgQ Usatisfactory performance - 3rd start from the Box 8, wearing 9 rug: https://www.thedogs.com.au/resources/showvideoplayerracing.aspx?s=youtube&q=vMlxlJip_7Y Unsatisfactory performance from box 5: https://www.thedogs.com.au/resources/showvideoplayerracing.aspx?s=youtube&q=5KTBPSNBML4 Last Aussiie start Box 2: https://www.thedogs.com.au/resources/showvideoplayerracing.aspx?s=youtube&q=4u5Fbvxjn_o Edited January 13, 2019 by Brando Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 (edited) 9 hours ago, Honestly said: Fair call just have a look if you have time it was a number 5 in the first four races can’t remember what race now , sorry tell me what you think . I easily see why you can't remember which particular race. In race three - the #5 had no interest in going past the #3 in the run home. She didn't obviously turn her head (without access to the head-on video) but she was eyeballing the #3 all the way down the home straight. Put the blinkers on her & her head will be spinning like a top. In race four - the number 5 wasn't nearly as cunning. Just off the mat & it's head did a left turn. It becomes more obvious which of three dogs inside it was the attention grabber. Marred the #3 at the end of the final corner. And then running down the home straight the final time, once again the #5 had no interest in passing the #3. Full video replay. Edited January 13, 2019 by Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feel The Fritter Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 2 hours ago, Yankiwi said: I easily see why you can't remember which particular race. In race three - the #5 had no interest in going past the #3 in the run home. She didn't obviously turn her head (without access to the head-on video) but she was eyeballing the #3 all the way down the home straight. Put the blinkers on her & her head will be spinning like a top. In race four - the number 5 wasn't nearly as cunning. Just off the mat & it's head did a left turn. It becomes more obvious which of three dogs inside it was the attention grabber. Marred the #3 at the end of the final corner. And then running down the home straight the final time, once again the #5 had no interest in passing the #3. Full video replay. OPAWA FLASH (5) - forced outwards first bend. Contacted inside runner home turn and jostled with runner home straight. Quirke has the latest tech available to him.. Why the hell don't they pick up on these faults.. The 5 is more than jostling... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Feel The Fritter Posted January 13, 2019 Author Share Posted January 13, 2019 9 hours ago, Brando said: Geez this bitch is lucky that it's only the "2nd' marring offence. Came to NZ with 1 marring offence from its very first career race and another 2 Unsatisfactory Perfomances which looked dodgy. And turned it's head before 1st bend in its last start in Aussie. Marring Offence - 1st start from the red: https://www.thedogs.com.au/resources/showvideoplayerracing.aspx?s=youtube&q=CMySVRBSdgQ Usatisfactory performance - 3rd start from the Box 8, wearing 9 rug: https://www.thedogs.com.au/resources/showvideoplayerracing.aspx?s=youtube&q=vMlxlJip_7Y Unsatisfactory performance from box 5: https://www.thedogs.com.au/resources/showvideoplayerracing.aspx?s=youtube&q=5KTBPSNBML4 Last Aussiie start Box 2: https://www.thedogs.com.au/resources/showvideoplayerracing.aspx?s=youtube&q=4u5Fbvxjn_o Surely the Association should stop this Shit from comming in....? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 21 minutes ago, Feel The Fritter said: Surely the Association should stop this Shit from comming in....? It's not that the association can't stop these dogs coming in, they refuse to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 Are the NZGRA through their Welfare Officer following up on all these fighters that are imported to NZ, and then getting put out for 3 months or more, as to their status. By that I mean, are they checking on their welfare. These are perfectly sound dogs, and do not deserve a bullet in the head, or a lethal needle administered by a Vet after being imported from a foreign country. This surely would not be hard to do by a Welfare Officer that was intent on doing their job. I find it inconceivable that this follow up would not be done. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cichlid Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 A part from Copy and pasting a few articles in the mag What has Dr. Welfare ever done. ? I think she was employed as a foyle to divert away from the requirements of the Hansen Report. If she does come to work what does she actually do to warrant her Salary.. Interested to hear from L.P.s anothers who have witnessed anything... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhounder Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 13 hours ago, Honestly said: Fair call just have a look if you have time it was a number 5 in the first four races can’t remember what race now , sorry tell me what you think . What about race 12 when you fucked the number up and got away.with it Again Mcinerney Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hard Times Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 1 hour ago, Feel The Fritter said: OPAWA FLASH (5) - forced outwards first bend. Contacted inside runner home turn and jostled with runner home straight. Quirke has the latest tech available to him.. Why the hell don't they pick up on these faults.. The 5 is more than jostling... Well whether they see them or whether they choose not to see them is the question. It's useful to see who the trainers are that get a season free pass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greyhounder Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 3 minutes ago, Hard Times said: Well whether they see them or whether they choose not to see them is the question. It's useful to see who the trainers are that get a season free pass The trainer that gets the biggest free pass is McInerney with.his half educated farm produce. Guess you get away with murder when the stipes new wife drops on for a visits regularly... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted January 13, 2019 Share Posted January 13, 2019 8 minutes ago, Greyhounder said: The trainer that gets the biggest free pass is McInerney with.his half educated farm produce. Guess you get away with murder when the stipes new wife drops on for a visits regularly... Made boxing dogs sloooowly an art form. Never mind the filthy mary lous. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 (edited) Good to see that the top dog & the Vet full of collusion, in my opinion, are still looking after the same kennel that they blatantly show so much favouritism for. BOAY members, find the dog that marred another dog, but was only looked into by the Steward for failing to pursue & received the 28 day stand-down for a hip support injury that didn't affect the way the dog ran whatsoever. Magically, no charges incurred.... The marring is obvious in this still image. What other reason could there be for the #3 to offset its neck towards the rail? Pack your bags top dog. We've all had enough of your antics. You're a horrible Stipe & even a worse corrupt version of one, in my opinion. The CD vet should also know that he too is on my radar. Edited January 14, 2019 by Yankiwi 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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