curious Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 11 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Very inbred though. Same mare on top and bottom. 3x3 to Danehill. Some may like that, though I'm no pedigree geek these days. Anyway, this thread seems to have segued into an examination of the author, rather than the concerns raised in his report. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 32 minutes ago, curious said: 3x3 to Danehill. Some may like that, though I'm no pedigree geek these days. Anyway, this thread seems to have segued into an examination of the author, rather than the concerns raised in his report. Line-breeding to superior females is a pattern acclaimed by many successful breeders - Tesio being just one worthy of mention...and Danehill himself has Natalma carried through different daughters on each side. The incompatible Best in Show is carried twice in Colin's stallion, so he's done his homework. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journalists Wandering Eyes Posted September 20 Author Journalists Share Posted September 20 Anyway back to the tracks. That Polytrack is shyte and where is NZTR? Doesn't matter how much you power harrow! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 6 hours ago, Newmarket said: Will anyone listen to Colin? Seems he is a loose cannon I did see he has shared that "certain people have warned him to watch himself, watch his back..', your use of cannon was of concern! what with the history of recent history of CEo's and Riccarton and Rangiora and cowboys and bullets... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Perhaps he is perhaps he isn't CW, a man with a noble history of defeats! and not afraid to throw a decent $$ at those losses! Never scared to put pen to paper! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 5 hours ago, Freda said: Line-breeding to superior females is a pattern acclaimed by many successful breeders - Tesio being just one worthy of mention...and Danehill himself has Natalma carried through different daughters on each side. The incompatible Best in Show is carried twice in Colin's stallion, so he's done his homework. incompatible? Or did you mean incomparable? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 2 hours ago, curious said: incompatible? Or did you mean incomparable? Yes. The phone at its tricks again. Didn't check properly did I.! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 12 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Very inbred though. Same mare on top and bottom. Colons breeding? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 12 hours ago, curious said: Anyway, this thread seems to have segued into an examination of the author, rather than the concerns raised in his report. tick, but.. because of CW's history with Head Office! we know that they will be playing a game with that in mind. reflecting on the 'politics of racing', I presume that CW has got the Trainers CEO and Owners Reps involved?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 Aidan O'Brien obviously doesn't mind using them. https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/279846/city-of-troy-on-to-breeders-cup-after-southwell-work Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 54 minutes ago, curious said: Aidan O'Brien obviously doesn't mind using them. https://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-racing/articles/279846/city-of-troy-on-to-breeders-cup-after-southwell-work A well-maintained Tapeta. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 20 Share Posted September 20 8 minutes ago, Freda said: A well-maintained Tapeta. A Tapeta has the same surface medium components as our Polytracks. Perhaps the difference is depth of the fill and its maintenance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 3 hours ago, Freda said: A well-maintained Tapeta. Yes. And circa 200mms to the asphalt base. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 30 minutes ago, curious said: Yes. And circa 200mms to the asphalt base. I seriously hope that the rumours are not true that they took a budget short cut. Although some may remember the quite tense debate with @Pitman some months prior to the AWT being built that there appeared to be no business case nor planned extra budget for ongoing maintenace. I should bump that discussion to the front of the queue again! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Colin is on a roll. A Battle Paint - Battle Secret just won the last at Wanganui! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Funny isn’t it, old Col also posting on FB dishing it out. Apart from a couple on here…. where are all the others complaining about Synthetic trainers? Not many are there… I’m not keen on them but some horses like it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pete Lane Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 42 minutes ago, Trojan said: Colin is on a roll. A Battle Paint - Battle Secret just won the last at Wanganui! I think you'll find he stood at Chequers Stud. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 Yes, he did. Trojan may be thinking of Painted Black? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 14 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Funny isn’t it, old Col also posting on FB dishing it out. Apart from a couple on here…. where are all the others complaining about Synthetic trainers? Not many are there… I’m not keen on them but some horses like it Some horses are. But you miss the point. Colins issue is with the maintenance of the Riccarton track. The photos don't lie. Some horses like running on the Polytrack but not many like running on asphalt. I assure you there are quite a few disgruntled trainers but unfortunately the hassle publically commenting on social media about the issue is not worth it. Like a lot of things Trainers are often forced to grin and bear it. But hopefully what Wightman has done will get some focus on the issue. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: But hopefully what Wightman has done will get some focus on the issue I'm sure it has! As always, its always going to be amusing whenever CW jumps up on his high horse! more power to him if his action on Track Safety leads to better safety for all involved! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 21 Share Posted September 21 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: I seriously hope that the rumours are not true that they took a budget short cut. Yes. It would be bad if that proves to be true but probably worse if it turns out that they have failed to keep it topped up to the initial level. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trojan Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 On 21/09/2024 at 5:27 PM, Freda said: Yes, he did. Trojan may be thinking of Painted Black? Yes I got that wrong. Was getting a bit enthusiastic about maybe seeing something happen with the Riccarton track maintenance. Colin can be a right pain in the arse but he is right on this subject. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 49 minutes ago, Trojan said: Colin can be a ((is)) right pain in the arse but he is right on this subject. to right! or is it yeah right! though, on this one! we all be keen to see $1.05 go up and CW gets a W Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 On 21/09/2024 at 5:27 PM, Freda said: Yes, he did. Trojan may be thinking of Painted Black? Are you still training for Colin Pam? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted September 23 Share Posted September 23 36 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Are you still training for Colin Pam? No 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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