Matamata = Gone

[SLB2.0]

Another meeting bites the dust

What should we set the over/under for total meetings abandoned this year? 

[Chief Stipe]

23 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said:

Another meeting bites the dust

What should we set the over/under for total meetings abandoned this year? 

Surprises me.  I've walked that track about 4 times in the last year.  The horse slipped but didn't fall.

Rather than look at the slip on the track perhaps they should look at something else...

[mikeynz]

Ascot Park have had 10 days or so of hot dry days and I think tomorrow some early rain, what are the odds?

And with rain developing Saturday afternoon in Auckland, maybe a book on that as well.

[Newmarket]

Once again meeting abandoned after races have been run? So it was safe half an hour before…. then it’s not safe? This happens all the time

[TAB For Ever]

Looked similar to 2005 Kelt Capital when Xcellent swept up wide and got knocked inside from a horse right on the point of the turn .

Check it out on youtube !

[Chief Stipe]

27 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Once again meeting abandoned after races have been run? So it was safe half an hour before…. then it’s not safe? This happens all the time

The horse slipped (or became unbalanced) NOT fell.

But let's watch it from every angle on slo mo.

 

[Newmarket]

20 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

The horse slipped (or became unbalanced) NOT fell.

But let's watch it from every angle on slo mo.

 

Yes, I agree. 
 

My main issue is when these meetings get abandoned….very rarely do you see meetings in Aus abandoned after racing started, did recently at Randwick but weather came thru late, conditions atrocious 

[curious]

16 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Yes, I agree. 
 

My main issue is when these meetings get abandoned….very rarely do you see meetings in Aus abandoned after racing started, did recently at Randwick but weather came thru late, conditions atrocious 

Yes, that's a big concern and continues to occur. Horses and riders sent out on a track deemed to be unsafe but they don't determine that before they have put horses and riders at risk.

Still no stipes report 4 hours later either.

[curious]

1 hour ago, mikeynz said:

Ascot Park have had 10 days or so of hot dry days and I think tomorrow some early rain, what are the odds?

And with rain developing Saturday afternoon in Auckland, maybe a book on that as well.

History says they won't abandon the Ellerslie meeting even if the track is unsafe.

[SLB2.0]

Australian meetings (at least at decent venues) only ever get abandoned due to horrendous weather. There is never a horse slipping, but it feels like a weekly occurrence here. Pathetic.

[curious]

Oops. Stewards report there now. So; they over-rode the jockeys' consensus.

Following the running of this race Stewards interviewed L Sutherland in relation to her mount slipping approaching
the 300 metres. Stewards met with all riders then convened a track inspection committee involving Stewards, Riders
and Club Officials, with two clearly visible significant slip marks being observed. Riders then met independently and
advised Stewards that in their view the meeting could continue, subject to being closely monitored on a race by race
basis. However, after considering all the evidence the Stewards could not be satisfied that the track was in a suitable
condition that riders could ride in a safe and competitive manner, so the decision was made to abandon the meeting.

[Special Agent]

A little unusual but erring on the side of caution maybe.

I'm surprised that Matamata is deemed unsafe.

Please don't sell off any tracks.  We really need them as important back stops.

Jumpouts and trials are happening all over the place on tracks not used raceday.  In the past few months for example Foxton, Levin, Stratford, Waipukurau, Rangiora, Waipa.  There wouldn't be many barrier certificates without those venues.

[Doomed]

1 hour ago, Special Agent said:

A little unusual but erring on the side of caution maybe.

I'm surprised that Matamata is deemed unsafe.

Please don't sell off any tracks.  We really need them as important back stops.

Jumpouts and trials are happening all over the place on tracks not used raceday.  In the past few months for example Foxton, Levin, Stratford, Waipukurau, Rangiora, Waipa.  There wouldn't be many barrier certificates without those venues.

Yes, all of this shows up the foolishness of closing down so many tracks. The theory behind it was not that the likes of Hastings, Awapuni, Te Aroha would suddenly be closed down for long periods. Perhaps the despised tracks were not the real problem after all.

[Wingman]

I did not watch today but very surprised on two counts.

One; Matamata is a safe track

Two; Riders were all ok with continuing the meeting

Conclusion; overreaction by stipes who continue (like the most of the  executives in this industry) to be inconsistent/weak with their governance

[Doomed]

1 hour ago, SLB2.0 said:

Australian meetings (at least at decent venues) only ever get abandoned due to horrendous weather. There is never a horse slipping, but it feels like a weekly occurrence here. Pathetic.

NZ meetings never used to get abandoned either, other than for terrible weather, and often not even then.

The only NZ abandonment part way through a meeting I can remember from many years ago was Motukarara sometime in the late 70s or early 80s. I'm sure there were others but I don't remember them.

[Murray Fish]

1 hour ago, curious said:

So; they over-rode the jockeys' consensus.

there was a interview a stipe, who talk about policy etc, rather strange in not allowing them to ride, especially if any jockey that did feel it unsafe being able to scr without penalty!

[Doomed]

2 hours ago, curious said:

History says they won't abandon the Ellerslie meeting even if the track is unsafe.

There is no way in the world they will abandon Ellerslie. If a jockey falls off they will fine them for falling off.