SLB2.0 Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago Another meeting bites the dust What should we set the over/under for total meetings abandoned this year? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 18 hours ago Share Posted 18 hours ago 23 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: Another meeting bites the dust What should we set the over/under for total meetings abandoned this year? Surprises me. I've walked that track about 4 times in the last year. The horse slipped but didn't fall. Rather than look at the slip on the track perhaps they should look at something else... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Ascot Park have had 10 days or so of hot dry days and I think tomorrow some early rain, what are the odds? And with rain developing Saturday afternoon in Auckland, maybe a book on that as well. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted 17 hours ago Share Posted 17 hours ago Once again meeting abandoned after races have been run? So it was safe half an hour before…. then it’s not safe? This happens all the time Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TAB For Ever Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago Looked similar to 2005 Kelt Capital when Xcellent swept up wide and got knocked inside from a horse right on the point of the turn . Check it out on youtube ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 27 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Once again meeting abandoned after races have been run? So it was safe half an hour before…. then it’s not safe? This happens all the time The horse slipped (or became unbalanced) NOT fell. But let's watch it from every angle on slo mo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted 16 hours ago Share Posted 16 hours ago 20 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: The horse slipped (or became unbalanced) NOT fell. But let's watch it from every angle on slo mo. Yes, I agree. My main issue is when these meetings get abandoned….very rarely do you see meetings in Aus abandoned after racing started, did recently at Randwick but weather came thru late, conditions atrocious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 16 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Yes, I agree. My main issue is when these meetings get abandoned….very rarely do you see meetings in Aus abandoned after racing started, did recently at Randwick but weather came thru late, conditions atrocious Yes, that's a big concern and continues to occur. Horses and riders sent out on a track deemed to be unsafe but they don't determine that before they have put horses and riders at risk. Still no stipes report 4 hours later either. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago 1 hour ago, mikeynz said: Ascot Park have had 10 days or so of hot dry days and I think tomorrow some early rain, what are the odds? And with rain developing Saturday afternoon in Auckland, maybe a book on that as well. History says they won't abandon the Ellerslie meeting even if the track is unsafe. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted 15 hours ago Author Share Posted 15 hours ago Australian meetings (at least at decent venues) only ever get abandoned due to horrendous weather. There is never a horse slipping, but it feels like a weekly occurrence here. Pathetic. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago Oops. Stewards report there now. So; they over-rode the jockeys' consensus. Following the running of this race Stewards interviewed L Sutherland in relation to her mount slipping approaching the 300 metres. Stewards met with all riders then convened a track inspection committee involving Stewards, Riders and Club Officials, with two clearly visible significant slip marks being observed. Riders then met independently and advised Stewards that in their view the meeting could continue, subject to being closely monitored on a race by race basis. However, after considering all the evidence the Stewards could not be satisfied that the track was in a suitable condition that riders could ride in a safe and competitive manner, so the decision was made to abandon the meeting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Special Agent Posted 15 hours ago Share Posted 15 hours ago A little unusual but erring on the side of caution maybe. I'm surprised that Matamata is deemed unsafe. Please don't sell off any tracks. We really need them as important back stops. Jumpouts and trials are happening all over the place on tracks not used raceday. In the past few months for example Foxton, Levin, Stratford, Waipukurau, Rangiora, Waipa. There wouldn't be many barrier certificates without those venues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, Special Agent said: A little unusual but erring on the side of caution maybe. I'm surprised that Matamata is deemed unsafe. Please don't sell off any tracks. We really need them as important back stops. Jumpouts and trials are happening all over the place on tracks not used raceday. In the past few months for example Foxton, Levin, Stratford, Waipukurau, Rangiora, Waipa. There wouldn't be many barrier certificates without those venues. Yes, all of this shows up the foolishness of closing down so many tracks. The theory behind it was not that the likes of Hastings, Awapuni, Te Aroha would suddenly be closed down for long periods. Perhaps the despised tracks were not the real problem after all. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wingman Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago I did not watch today but very surprised on two counts. One; Matamata is a safe track Two; Riders were all ok with continuing the meeting Conclusion; overreaction by stipes who continue (like the most of the executives in this industry) to be inconsistent/weak with their governance 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, SLB2.0 said: Australian meetings (at least at decent venues) only ever get abandoned due to horrendous weather. There is never a horse slipping, but it feels like a weekly occurrence here. Pathetic. NZ meetings never used to get abandoned either, other than for terrible weather, and often not even then. The only NZ abandonment part way through a meeting I can remember from many years ago was Motukarara sometime in the late 70s or early 80s. I'm sure there were others but I don't remember them. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted 14 hours ago Share Posted 14 hours ago 1 hour ago, curious said: So; they over-rode the jockeys' consensus. there was a interview a stipe, who talk about policy etc, rather strange in not allowing them to ride, especially if any jockey that did feel it unsafe being able to scr without penalty! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted 13 hours ago Share Posted 13 hours ago 2 hours ago, curious said: History says they won't abandon the Ellerslie meeting even if the track is unsafe. There is no way in the world they will abandon Ellerslie. If a jockey falls off they will fine them for falling off. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 6 hours ago Share Posted 6 hours ago Screen Recording 2025-01-23 044859.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Murray Fish Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago "almost slipping" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 4 hours ago Share Posted 4 hours ago Interesting how we get multiple vision angles now of these incidents. No Stewards reports? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago RaceInfoMeetingsMeeting NewsMatamata RC | Wednesday 22 January RACE DAY MEETING NEWS Matamata RC | Wednesday 22 January RACE DAY Race Day Weather: Cloudy Track: Soft 5 (was soft 6) Moisture Meter: Rail: Out 7m Rain: 4.5mm Last 24 Hours | 4.5mm Last 7 Days Irrigation: 10mm applied last 24 hours Weather and Track updated at 2.22pm Wednesday 22 January Race Day Weather: Cloudy Track: Soft 6 Moisture Meter: Rail: Out 7m Rain: 4.5mm Last 24 Hours | 4.5mm Last 7 Days Irrigation: 10mm applied last 24 hours Weather and Track updated at 7.00am Wednesday 22 January Tuesday Afternoon Weather: Overcast Track: Soft 5 Moisture Meter: Rail: Out 7m Rain: 3.5mm Last 24 Hours | 3.5mm Last 7 Days Irrigation: 15mm applied last 24 hours, further 10mm to be applied today Weather and Track updated at 5.00pm Tuesday 21 January Tuesday Morning Weather: Overcast Track: Good 4 Moisture Meter: 34% Rail: Out 7m Rain: No Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: 15mm applied last 24 hours, further 10mm to be applied today Weather and Track updated at 9.10am Tuesday 21 January Withdrawal Morning Weather: Fine Track: Good 3 Moisture Meter: 26% Rail: Out 7m Rain: No Rain Last 7 Days | No Rain Last 24 Hours Irrigation: Irrigating 15mm Today Weather and Track updated at 9.09am Monday 20 January Saturday Morning Weather: Fine Track: Soft 5 Moisture Meter: N/A Rail: Out 7m Rain: No Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: N/A Weather and Track updated at 8.39am Saturday 18 January Nomination Morning Weather: Fine Track: Good 4 Moisture Meter: N/A Rail: Out 7m Rain: No Rain Last 7 Days Irrigation: 15mm Irrigation Today Weather and Track updated at 9.45am Friday 17 January Head Stipe - Adrian Dooley 027 601 2997 The following races will remain open until 9.00am Monday 20 January: - MDN 2YO 1200m - R60 1400m - MDN 1600m NZTR in conjunction with the club will look to divide the MDN 1600m providing there are sufficient entries at withdrawal time Apprentice Riders: Ngakau Hailey (a2) c/- 027 828 9311 Ace Lawson-Carroll (a1) 020 4085 1578 Tayla Mitchell (a1) c/- 027 491 1170 Triston Moodley (a2) 021 857 069 Joe Nishizuka (a3) 027 235 8189 Niranjan Parmar (a1) c/- 027 738 9120 Bailey Rogerson (a2) c/- 027 673 2282 Nichola Yuen (a2) c/ - 021 798 881 Senior Riders: Courtney Barnes c/- 027 673 2282 Vinnie Colgan c/- 027 200 2520 Joe Doyle c/- 027 673 2282 Jasmine Fawcett c/- 027 828 9311 Bridget Grylls 027 333 6339 Craig Grylls c/- 027 285 5212 Billy Jacobson c/- 021 147 7378 Vikas Jalalkuncha 021 0812 9795 Marc Lerner c/- 027 443 1175 Kelly Myers c/- 027 738 9120 Tegan Newman 021 171 5703 Kevin Stott c/- 027 673 2282 Sam Weatherley c/- 027 285 5212 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, curious said: Screen Recording 2025-01-23 044859.mp4 1.79 MB · 0 downloads That's interesting. The horse started to turn in before it slipped. Did that unbalance it? The rail was out 7m. I'd say the horse slipped on what was the inside lane for the trial day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 11 hours ago, Doomed said: NZ meetings never used to get abandoned either, other than for terrible weather, and often not even then. The only NZ abandonment part way through a meeting I can remember from many years ago was Motukarara sometime in the late 70s or early 80s. I'm sure there were others but I don't remember them. I think Ashburton pulled pin during meeting last couple of years because of high winds…. Can’t remember that happening before. Wind did increase so I could understand why Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted 3 hours ago Share Posted 3 hours ago 13 minutes ago, Newmarket said: I think Ashburton pulled pin during meeting last couple of years because of high winds…. Can’t remember that happening before. Wind did increase so I could understand why Horses hate strong winds especially at the barriers. Instinct rules over training. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted 59 minutes ago Share Posted 59 minutes ago (edited) 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: That's interesting. The horse started to turn in before it slipped. Did that unbalance it? The rail was out 7m. I'd say the horse slipped on what was the inside lane for the trial day. It appears a significant slip. Quite a large chunk of turf dislodged. And there was evidently a second slip mark. If it was on the inside of the trial track, why would that be more slippery than anywhere else? Rougher maybe but surely not more slippery. Also, if it were then you'd hardly think the jockeys would be ok to ride if they only had a 10m strip they could safely ride on there, though if that was the plan then it makes some sense that the stipes overrode them because that would clearly make continuing such that stewards could not be satisfied that the track was in a "suitable condition that riders could ride in a safe and competitive manner, so the decision was made to abandon the meeting." Edited 57 minutes ago by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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