Is this ridiculous, or not?

[Murray Fish]

2 hours ago, TAB For Ever said:

Tosser !

Coming from the likes of you that be a compliment! 😎

I'll pass on your kind thoughts to SCRC

 

[Freda]

6 hours ago, Doomed said:

Thank you for that Pam.  I often think it be a great idea if someone in authority was to keep an eye on comments on places like this and come on occasionally to clarify situations which might often have a simple explanation.

Yes, absolutely.

In the very early days of Channel X [ Dave and Ange ] there was a Q & A session, once a week/month, not sure as I wasn't around.  But someone from NZTR would answer genuine queries and I think it was a really good option.

Probably keeping it courteous might have been a problem, otherwise there would have been no reason for the section to be removed.

[curious]

9 hours ago, Freda said:

It went to the jumpouts and couldn't even get a barrier certificate there.

My understanding is (as in CW's comments above), that was because she was ridden at the jump outs by a stable track work rider and it was ruled she had to be ridden by a licensed jockey in order to receive a barrier certificate.

Edited 14 hours ago by curious

[curious]

8 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Interesting though that there is no mention in the Stipes report for the offending races.  

That's from 32 starts with never even a warning from the stipes about her barrier manners?

[Chief Stipe]

2 minutes ago, curious said:

That's from 32 starts with never even a warning from the stipes about her barrier manners?

Yes but that seems to be an administrative issue not a reflection on the horses behaviour.  If you can point me to the official report online that says she was nailed for her barrier manners in her last start I'd be grateful.

[Chief Stipe]

9 minutes ago, curious said:

My understanding is (as in CW's comments above), that was because she was ridden at the jump outs by a stable track work rider and it was ruled she had to be ridden by a licensed jockey in order to receive a barrier certificate.

Then that is his mistake again or his trainers.  

[Freda]

6 minutes ago, curious said:

My understanding is (as in CW's comments above), that was because she was ridden at the jump outs by a stable track work rider and it was ruled she had to be ridden by a licensed jockey in order to receive a barrier certificate.

No, apparently they all worked on her and she refused flatly.

Once everyone had given up and decision made she went in on her own!

I think Donovan was on at some stage.

I don't think trackwork riders can ride at jumpouts?  have to be licensed.

For example my lad could ride if needed, as he is a ticketed amateur jockey.

[curious]

1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yes but that seems to be an administrative issue not a reflection on the horses behaviour.  If you can point me to the official report online that says she was nailed for her barrier manners in her last start I'd be grateful.

EARS BACK (K Hercock) - Declared a late scratching at 4:11pm after refusing to load. Connections were advised that
EARS BACK is required to barrier trial to the satisfaction of a Stipendiary Steward prior to racing next.

[Chief Stipe]

17 minutes ago, curious said:

EARS BACK (K Hercock) - Declared a late scratching at 4:11pm after refusing to load. Connections were advised that
EARS BACK is required to barrier trial to the satisfaction of a Stipendiary Steward prior to racing next.

Ok so there was a race after the last one on its profile at NZTR but it isn't listed because it didn't start.  

Sorry I'm with @Freda on this one.

[curious]

I'd say there will be some anxious connections at the trials tomorrow.

[Chief Stipe]

30 minutes ago, curious said:

I'd say there will be some anxious connections at the trials tomorrow.

Have you race 90 or is it 90 seconds?

[curious]

32 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Have you race 90 or is it 90 seconds?

Not sure quite what you mean but I think it's 90secs to load, races or trials.

[curious]

1 hour ago, Freda said:

I don't think trackwork riders can ride at jumpouts?  have to be licensed.

For example my lad could ride if needed, as he is a ticketed amateur jockey.

Is that a jump out rule specific to Riccarton?

[Murray Fish]

3 hours ago, Freda said:

Yes, absolutely.

In the very early days of Channel X [ Dave and Ange ] there was a Q & A session, once a week/month, not sure as I wasn't around.  But someone from NZTR would answer genuine queries and I think it was a really good option.

Probably keeping it courteous might have been a problem, otherwise there would have been no reason for the section to be removed.

I had the ear of Head Office back then, and championed HO to be pro active! Minimal effort was put in, but without self discipline from some! excuses were found to stop it!

Recently on a Facebook thread, a technocrat from HO jumped into a thread (stating he happened to work at HO) and that x was the fact of the matter! Simple and refreshing! but sadly not the norm!

[Gammalite]

8 hours ago, Murray Fish said:

Typical shallow shit from you! any smart leadership will have their  heads around platforms that allow organic feedback! What has been lacking has been the backbone and political nous and intellectual skill to use these social media forums!

Of course! anyone that has a understanding of racing history and how as a Industry! especially Head Office! has lagged years behind in the move into the digital area! 

Posts like this aimed against other posters and contributors are EXACTilley the reason those in Authority of any kind in Racing Should and Do dodge any social media forums. And a pretty sour generalization of a broad group it is too . 

 

 

 

[Murray Fish]

18 minutes ago, Gammalite said:

Posts like this aimed against other posters and contributors are EXACTilley the reason those in Authority of any kind in Racing Should and Do dodge any social media forums. And a pretty sour generalization of a broad group it is too

 

It was aimed directly at Tab! I meant every word in it! happy to share similar in person with him! Would love to debate in a public racing forum! All power to the drink aid! 

Re Head Office getting involved! that can't happen! no staff with the needed institution memory any more!  Having said that, there has been some very creative digital images being produced recently.

 

 

[Freda]

8 hours ago, curious said:

Is that a jump out rule specific to Riccarton?

Wrt barrier certificates I think so. 

You used to be able to get barrier certificates from the old wooden gates but not now, the overhead ones must be used and licensed riders.

That was the problem with a horse I inherited  as he wouldn't accept the overhead gates and there was no opportunity to work with him in those gates other than at trials or official jumpouts. 

So I had to send him to Wingatui where those gates were available any time wanted.