Kirsten green

[Forbury]

Kirsten green is a pathetic driver all Kirsten green is good for as a driver is absolutely nothing today she really demonstrated her ability in beating her horse and others all Kirsten green is a good for as a driver is brain farts she is also a pathetic trainer the man the backs her in ownership is absolutely crazy just as crazy as n40 racing man who is putting well bred yearlings with Kim butt🤣😂

[Newmarket]

3 hours ago, Forbury said:

Kirsten green is a pathetic driver all Kirsten green is good for as a driver is absolutely nothing today she really demonstrated her ability in beating her horse and others all Kirsten green is a good for as a driver is brain farts she is also a pathetic trainer the man the backs her in ownership is absolutely crazy just as crazy as n40 racing man who is putting well bred yearlings with Kim butt🤣😂

Did you lose $5 tonight….

[Mardy]

4 hours ago, Forbury said:

Kirsten green is a pathetic driver all Kirsten green is good for as a driver is absolutely nothing today she really demonstrated her ability in beating her horse and others all Kirsten green is a good for as a driver is brain farts she is also a pathetic trainer the man the backs her in ownership is absolutely crazy just as crazy as n40 racing man who is putting well bred yearlings with Kim butt🤣😂

Geez aren't you a sad piece of human excrement.You  have no idea what your on about you flog. If you can't handle the game and the punt then take your $2 elsewhere....muppet.

[mikeynz]

Irrespective of the post, the punctuation says enough and often punctuality is a indication of one's intelligence, that is a weird post all the same.

[the galah]

1 hour ago, mikeynz said:

Irrespective of the post, the punctuation says enough and often punctuality is a indication of one's intelligence, that is a weird post all the same.

i think we've all read forburys posts before and know hes just sounding off,ofteh based on just one or two drives hes observed on any specific punting day.

Where forbury possibly goes wrong, is he indicates that those  drives are the overall norm for the people hes moaning about. We all know the people hes refered to are viewed as successful and capable.

No denying he may be a bit extreme in his comments,but i think newmarket has the right approach,just realise that its something forbury does every now and again and  anyone responding by calling him names is an indication your taking him too seriously and not understanding him.

actually,sometimes i wonder where he gets to. Reading his latest post ,is actually nice to see he's still out there somewhere.

Also,the people he commented on today in his post, if you watch their drives,both had days they would rather forget with some tactically average drives ,which punters would have been disappointed in. But thats racing,today things not so good,tomorrow another day and maybe back on top. Hopefully forbury has better luck on the punt on the second day.

 

Edited March 7 by the galah

[Newmarket]

I don’t mind Kirsten Green, at least she is confident enough to get horses to the front, seems to rate them well. 
And she trains a few winners, so must be doing something right. 
 

Don’t know for sure, but must win the most races for a female driver / trainer down south? That’s a guess 😆

[goldilocks]

Great  drive  to win the big trot at Northern Southland  today, also trains the winner 

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[Gammalite]

54 minutes ago, goldilocks said:

Great  drive  to win the big trot at Northern Southland  today, also trains the winner 

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Samantha's Moon beating 6 Williamson trotters today. That is quite a good feat indeed !!!

Kirsten's Big moment was 4 years ago winning the Group 1  Breeders stakes at Addington in Feb 21'.

Beat the million dollar mare 'Amazing Dream'  by a Head with WATCH ME NOW. (they were 10 lengths clear of 3rd and the field) so to beat Mark Purdon in that sort of race shows she must have plenty of ability. was a great drive. 

Of course when a horse wins a big one like that the offers come In , and Watch Me Now sold off to the yanks soon after.  with a good record of  7 wins from 17 starts  in NZ. Is a shame these sort of trainers don't get to keep their 'Real good' horses and make a bit of a name for themselves.  just go back to the back-blocks looking for another after sending their star horses off to USA or AUS.  Poor horses left behind make you look poor lol 🤣😎

 

[Forbury]

What about this drive on major burns today Invercargill walks in front gets caught asleep cannot hold lead fucks herself and the other favourite and then race previous on superfast typical brain fart drive goes ballistic in lead gives her horse zero chance this is why she is the worse driver in new Zealand 

[Chief Stipe]

27 minutes ago, Forbury said:

What about this drive on major burns today Invercargill walks in front gets caught asleep cannot hold lead fucks herself and the other favourite and then race previous on superfast typical brain fart drive goes ballistic in lead gives her horse zero chance this is why she is the worse driver in new Zealand 

Are you having another bad night Forbs?

[westbrew]

Perhaps what is needed is to end the old JCA system, i think they are called adjudicators now, a layer of complexity that is not needed, let the stewards hold the drivers accountable, maybe that would give the stewards more confidence to question drives and tactics.  

[Newmarket]

1 hour ago, Forbury said:

What about this drive on major burns today Invercargill walks in front gets caught asleep cannot hold lead fucks herself and the other favourite and then race previous on superfast typical brain fart drive goes ballistic in lead gives her horse zero chance this is why she is the worse driver in new Zealand 

OMG….

Are you mad…. The Real Crunch was parked outside leader lap out, Kirsten did everything to win…. had chance up inner to beat Crunch, not good enough. Maybe just pick the horses out without betting on them 😊

[Nowornever]

2 hours ago, Forbury said:

What about this drive on major burns today Invercargill walks in front gets caught asleep cannot hold lead fucks herself and the other favourite and then race previous on superfast typical brain fart drive goes ballistic in lead gives her horse zero chance this is why she is the worse driver in new Zealand 

I quite enjoyed her drive on that one as I had a decent go on Cold Pursuit for a place. Stable plan me thinks.

[the galah]

i hope forbury wasn't watching that last race.

would have burst a blood vessel for sure if he had any money on miki cohen. 

[Gammalite]

4 hours ago, the galah said:

i hope forbury wasn't watching that last race.

would have burst a blood vessel for sure if he had any money on miki cohen. 

Why? was trailing the leader (who was the winner) at the half mile , so had every chance 6th. 

That winning filly UTAH JAZZ is gunna be very good. Owned by Swayzee's owner Mick Boots !!! what a good man he is and puts horses with about 15 different trainers I believe. deserves a medal. 

Kirstin trailed the leader in the last race of the day as well . and run last. think her horses that she's driving are the main problem. weak as water. didn't seem to be her fault.  

[Nowornever]

Yes her front at all costs style ruined a few of my runners chances when they were carted back at the 400m. It is all good when she leads and has the horsepower but bloody annoying if she is on one that won't get you to the passing lane. Gavin Smith another who drives like that.

[the galah]

6 hours ago, Nowornever said:

Yes her front at all costs style ruined a few of my runners chances when they were carted back at the 400m. It is all good when she leads and has the horsepower but bloody annoying if she is on one that won't get you to the passing lane. Gavin Smith another who drives like that.

Her tactical decision to press for the lead for such an extended period of time after 400m seemed odd,when you would have thought she would know the horse in front was driven by a driver who normally doesn't like handing up ,when driving a strong winning chance. And thats how it played out.She had to drive her horse very hard for that 400m to get the front before the leader decided,well this is all getting a bit silly and diminishing both our horses chances.

Especially,when the alternative run for green was the 1/1 and an ideal run.

But hey,thats what happens sometimes and i suppose she took the "you have to crack a few eggs to make an omlet" type approach. In other words i may stuff this horse this time,but in the fututre i will be given the lead many more times without such resistance.

And thats all well and good .

my main issue with the drive was how she just kept at her horse when it was never going to run in the money.she did that,only for it to predicatably stop badly the last 100m.

why didn't she just let it fade away,instead of busting a gut fior nothing?I thought that odd.

One of the most important things i've learnt from analysing races,is always be very very wary of investing on a horse next up,who is over driven and who's driver continues to drive it out when its beaten. 

in horse racing,theres always tomorrow if you don't happen to get the ideal run and you just accept that and don't bust a gut if the best you can do is run 7th or 8th.

But the "theres always tomorrow goes out the window as one gut buster can take an emotional and physical toll. Sure,horses can bounce back,normally with a freshen up ,but their long term earning capacity is normally diminshed.

if you want an example of what i'm talking about.

when dreams are free won,early in its career, in 2.55 after losing a heap of ground early in the race,social media sites like this one were abuzz that that horse was the next superstar.

I commented a couple of times,that don't get too carried away,and predicted dreams are free would not last, would have the occasional good run,but most likely have ongoing issues that would see it not reach its potential. And i said ,the reason for that,was it was given that gut buster when it need not have had it.

i've also commented many times,how often do you see horses break,goes huge races to finish not far away,then go poor thereafter all because the drivers made them bust a gut.

so,thats why i commented on k greens drive. I didn't expect gammalite to say she drove it well.

i just thought everyone would be thinking like myself and nowornever are.

but everyone see things different i suppose and bit of a yarn reminds me of that.

and no,i didn't back k green or p hunter so aren't talking through my pocket.

and having said all that,i think k greens a very successful driver and from a punters perspective,overall punters have good confidence in her abilities and tactical nous.

Edited April 11 by the galah