Good to see! - Committee being formed for TAB!

[Brodie]

Great to see Brad Steele being interviewed by Greg O’Connor.

Great to hear that everything is positive with harness racing, so we do not need to worry about its future ever again!

[mikeynz]

50 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Great to see Brad Steele being interviewed by Greg O’Connor.

Great to hear that everything is positive with harness racing, so we do not need to worry about its future ever again!

Then stop worrying 🤐 I often wonder about some of the decisions leaders in many sporting codes make sometimes, it's sometimes easier on the outside looking in, Harness racing is making some odd ones, but some of the decisions made by Rugby administration is no better, not just in NZ but worldwide, playing 3 v 4  last when it should be the other way around in the Super playoffs is just one example, Rugby just seem to want more and more, just like Harness in NZ, sometimes quality beats quantity, sometimes I think they fail to understand why people don't maintain interest all the time, you can get too much of anything.

[Brodie]

Is anyone else confused by this Committee being formed?????

Why is there a need for this committee when Brad Steele CEO of HRNZ was telling us all on Trackside last night, that everything was positive for harness??

Everything is so good that Mr Steele recently stated that this Committee being formed “marks a pivotal moment for the NZ racing industry “ 

Why is it pivotal if everything was fine and going well?

Secondly the current Entain CEO, Dean Shannon is finishing up at the end of the month!

He stated that “ it was the right time for change”?

If things were going fine why were they looking to change things??

Just does not add up, does it?

Anyway, hope things are going well for the sake of the harness business.

Good punting!

 

 

 

Edited 6 hours ago by Brodie

[mikeynz]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

Is anyone else confused by this Committee being formed?????

Why is there a need for this committee when Brad Steele CEO of HRNZ was telling us all on Trackside last night, that everything was positive for harness??

Everything is so good that Mr Steele recently stated that this Committee being formed “marks a pivotal moment for the NZ racing industry “ 

Why is it pivotal if everything was fine and going well?

Secondly the current Entain CEO, Dean Shannon is finishing up at the end of the month!

He stated that “ it was the right time for change”?

If things were going fine why were they looking to change things??

Just does not add up, does it?

Anyway, hope things are going well for the sake of the harness business.

Good punting!

 

 

 

Well they have lifted total turnover, it took a extra 30 9or 40 racedays to do it but turnovers is up😊

[Gammalite]

1 hour ago, Brodie said:

Is anyone else confused by this Committee being formed?????

Why is there a need for this committee when Brad Steele CEO of HRNZ was telling us all on Trackside last night, that everything was positive for harness??

your post is confusing Brodie lol.

Brad is probably saying the current situation sees great horses doing great racing in lots of new races and schemes that have been implemented (with the help of Dean Shannon and his mob) and people are racing for the best prizemoney ever seen in NZ. so looks excellent progress. (you'll find a dampener for it though no doubt lol 😉👍)

You yourself are stating frequently that things will be changing in 2 years (after the 5 great years of the fantastic Entain harness revival is up. and Dean is stepping aside as has put in a decade of effort to achieve these great things.

Perhaps the Commitee is to PLAN FOR THE FUTURE old chap. In 2 YEARS time things change ( i'm just taking your word for this ) so you need to start getting Plans in place NOW for when that time comes. They aren't gunna leave it to the last month Brodster.

Good on em' for putting a committee togeather now to discuss these Future issues.  Timing is good and Future Planning ALWAYS super IMportant. The only thing they could do better is put Gamma , Galah and Seymour (while he's got his billion$ and the world's best horse too, and is still Alive )  on the Committee and things would be running better than the gallops even in No Time.  

[Nowornever]

1 hour ago, mikeynz said:

Well they have lifted total turnover, it took a extra 30 9or 40 racedays to do it but turnovers is up😊

To lift turnover further we will now be racing everyday of the week. There will possibly only be four and five horse fields but at least the turnover is up lol

[Brodie]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

your post is confusing Brodie lol.

Brad is probably saying the current situation sees great horses doing great racing in lots of new races and schemes that have been implemented (with the help of Dean Shannon and his mob) and people are racing for the best prizemoney ever seen in NZ. so looks excellent progress. (you'll find a dampener for it though no doubt lol 😉👍)

You yourself are stating frequently that things will be changing in 2 years (after the 5 great years of the fantastic Entain harness revival is up. and Dean is stepping aside as has put in a decade of effort to achieve these great things.

Perhaps the Commitee is to PLAN FOR THE FUTURE old chap. In 2 YEARS time things change ( i'm just taking your word for this ) so you need to start getting Plans in place NOW for when that time comes. They aren't gunna leave it to the last month Brodster.

Good on em' for putting a committee togeather now to discuss these Future issues.  Timing is good and Future Planning ALWAYS super IMportant. The only thing they could do better is put Gamma , Galah and Seymour (while he's got his billion$ and the world's best horse too, and is still Alive )  on the Committee and things would be running better than the gallops even in No Time.  

At the end of the day, if the CEO’s think things are heading in the right direction then  so Be it!

The call from Winnie to form this Committee quickly with unpaid people like Chris Waller, Peter Vella etc. is not for forward planning when the 5 years is up!

It is a vote if no confidence in what is being done NOW!

Carry on the way they are currently and things are going to be dire.

You can not continue to run meetings each week at a loss snd think that is a recipe for success!

 

Edited 3 hours ago by Brodie

[the galah]

1 hour ago, Gammalite said:

 

Good on em' for putting a committee togeather now to discuss these Future issues.  Timing is good and Future Planning ALWAYS super IMportant. The only thing they could do better is put Gamma , Galah and Seymour (while he's got his billion$ and the world's best horse too, and is still Alive )  on the Committee and things would be running better than the gallops even in No Time.  

i like your thinking gamma.

whats that old quote"we cannot  solve our problems with the same thinking(or people) as when we created them".

 

Edited 3 hours ago by the galah

[Gammalite]

9 minutes ago, Brodie said:

Carry on the way they are currently and things are going to be dire.

You can not continue to run meetings each week at a loss snd think that is a recipe for success!

things are dire mate.

The Galah and others have often pointed out the declining numbers racing as a main issue. That to me is the thing we need to address with haste. No Participants = No Sport. 

I do totally admire that you want to get a Bet on to help out (and line your pockets) great spirit of adventure.

The bottom line is you need Participants first, Races 2nd and Revenue 3rd. 

Queensland and Victoria operate at a Revenue Loss . Does anyone seriously bet on them ? no. I don't bet on them and I'm a big fan. 

The thing is they still operate because we get Sponsor's, and PAtron's , and Stalwarts and Slot races and all sorts of inspired ideas to keep the SPORT going. It's a Sport , people want to play.

Do you shut your local GOLF course when memberships drop off and no-one is 'Betting ' on the players ?? no . They get off their bums and get money from whatever source is available.

ENtain helped harness no end and yet you hate it.  Brad Steele happy with it . and the participants. 

All you blokes on these forums Counting runners and Revenue every 2nd week is No help at all. Race a Horse would help !!! like they do in Queensland. People here still racing a horse (or 3) and KEEPING the Game going. (for now)

[Rangatira]

19 minutes ago, the galah said:

whats that old quote"we cannot  solve our problems with the same thinking(or people) as when we created them".

Albert said something similar

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again and expecting different results.

[mikeynz]

I said about quality over quality, an example, 2 nights in the North, 14 races, 3 at least at Cambridge with only 6, would make sense to only have 1 night, probably 11 or 12 races,  it is winter at present, maybe go back to 2 meetings a week once the weather heats up and numbers improve trainers only need to travel one day, tv crew only one day,,no one would be worse off.

Same in Rugby, quantity over quality, Super Rugby starts in summer, they get to the playoffs and it's played at the coldest time of the year, 16 rounds, if you only had 10 or even 12 rounds you will still get the same result, Rugby is leaking money too,mostly through bloated squads on the payroll plus all the hangers on, why the All Blacks need nearly 40 when touring , mind boggling.

[Brodie]

2 hours ago, Gammalite said:

things are dire mate.

The Galah and others have often pointed out the declining numbers racing as a main issue. That to me is the thing we need to address with haste. No Participants = No Sport. 

I do totally admire that you want to get a Bet on to help out (and line your pockets) great spirit of adventure.

The bottom line is you need Participants first, Races 2nd and Revenue 3rd. 

Queensland and Victoria operate at a Revenue Loss . Does anyone seriously bet on them ? no. I don't bet on them and I'm a big fan. 

The thing is they still operate because we get Sponsor's, and PAtron's , and Stalwarts and Slot races and all sorts of inspired ideas to keep the SPORT going. It's a Sport , people want to play.

Do you shut your local GOLF course when memberships drop off and no-one is 'Betting ' on the players ?? no . They get off their bums and get money from whatever source is available.

ENtain helped harness no end and yet you hate it.  Brad Steele happy with it . and the participants. 

All you blokes on these forums Counting runners and Revenue every 2nd week is No help at all. Race a Horse would help !!! like they do in Queensland. People here still racing a horse (or 3) and KEEPING the Game going. (for now)

Firstly, I do want to help out with wagering turnover. 
The TAB needs punters more than I need the TAB

Brad Steele knows how things are really going financially but is paid to perform So that is why he is painting a rosey position.

Anyway we will wait and see what happens.