oldandtired Posted January 14, 2019 Share Posted January 14, 2019 Not sure how they count on the west coast but barrier 1 is normally on the inside Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Yes good point. I backed the horse that was supposedly drawn barrier 8 and couldn't spot its colours when they jumped. For some reason it started from barrier 1 or 2. You'd think the jockey might have thought something was amiss!? Perhaps he just didn't want to look a gift horse in the mouth. Was it because they forgot they were racing right handed? Edited January 15, 2019 by N1MUE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N1MUE Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Yes just watched the replays and it looks like the entire order was back to front. The winner was supposed to be drawn 1 and started from the outside. I'm guessing the barriers have the numbers on the back set up for left handed racing and nobody, including the jockeys, was smart enough to figure out that they have to reverse the order for right hand racing. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy connolly Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 And what is the purpose of having stipendiary steward Wadley at the start? If he can't pick up errors like this he shouldn't be there. I always thought a stipendiary stewards role was to observe the races. Wadley spends the whole day at the start doing fark all, then when the field is fully loaded and dispatched he gets in a four wheel drive vehicle and follows them .... from a distance ! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 18 minutes ago, billy connolly said: And what is the purpose of having stipendiary steward Wadley at the start? If he can't pick up errors like this he shouldn't be there. I always thought a stipendiary stewards role was to observe the races. Wadley spends the whole day at the start doing fark all, then when the field is fully loaded and dispatched he gets in a four wheel drive vehicle and follows them .... from a distance ! Come on, we all know these ex jockeys and drivers are only in the job because of their mates and who they used to be, buggar the fact they can’t do their job as stipendery stewards properly. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Glorious stuff happens in the bush.... Even in Gay Gorrre it happens 3 weeks ago...surely it wouldn't be the same bloke on Hols in Hokikoki?? Time to fine some of these Jocks as well...that'll sharpen their thinking Poor starter will be working the rest of the day for free...should have stayed in bed Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Certainly going to be an interesting Stewards report especially with the ninth race being abandoned because of a fall. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Crucible Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Unbelievable - at least 15 people at the start (9 jockeys plus starter plus assistants, ....) and not one of them figured out that something was wrong. Farrrrk - are we beyond help!? Stewards report not on the website yet Chief - perhaps they're too embarrassed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Prior to authorisation of placings, stewards became aware the horses had been loaded in the reverse order. After interviewing all riders, who advised their mounts had not been affected by the reverse draw, stewards requested a ruling from the JCA under Rule 631 (8) to confirm the race as an official race with the JCA ruling that the race was official. As a consequence starter Mr R Donnelly admitted a breach of Rule 631(2) & 627 (1) with the JCA imposing a fine of $450 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, hesi said: Prior to authorisation of placings, stewards became aware the horses had been loaded in the reverse order. After interviewing all riders, who advised their mounts had not been affected by the reverse draw, stewards requested a ruling from the JCA under Rule 631 (8) to confirm the race as an official race with the JCA ruling that the race was official. As a consequence starter Mr R Donnelly admitted a breach of Rule 631(2) & 627 (1) with the JCA imposing a fine of $450 Which race was this hesi? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TIME FOR CHANGE Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 So the stipes ask Jockeys if it made a difference. These are the ones that didn’t know that they were in the wrong gates and would lose riding percentages if race is canned...... joke. RIU and JCA again proven to be a joke. Race should have cancelled and all bets refunded. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 53 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Which race was this hesi? R1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 24 minutes ago, TIME FOR CHANGE said: So the stipes ask Jockeys if it made a difference. These are the ones that didn’t know that they were in the wrong gates and would lose riding percentages if race is canned...... joke. RIU and JCA again proven to be a joke. Race should have cancelled and all bets refunded. Classic, do turkeys vote for an early Xmas 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billy connolly Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 1 hour ago, TIME FOR CHANGE said: So the stipes ask Jockeys if it made a difference. These are the ones that didn’t know that they were in the wrong gates and would lose riding percentages if race is canned...... joke. Totally correct, I know poor jockeys when I see them and this lot are abysmal. Virtually every race most of them lost their compass at some point and if I was paying the riding fees I would be asking for my money back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandpiper Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Funny stuff from the west coast. "Prior to adjudication, the stewards noted a prevailing view of 'it's Hokitika race 1, fuck it' ... " Should be 8 late scratchings. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Were the stipes asleep at the wheel as well? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 (edited) Obviously. In the Gore race mentioned, one rider ( Gee Saejorhor ) told the starter that he was in the wrong gate, and was told to shut up. Brings incompetence to a new level....Or, as has been speculated, maybe it suited someone to leave it be..? Edited January 15, 2019 by Freda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Pretty hard to believe not one of the 9 riders realised the error. Going the wrong way around is not really an excuse because in a 9 horse field the 1 2 and 3 barriers would still be empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muzenza365 Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 Just shows me how the jockeys of today,think and plan a race. Tell me why the Steward around at the start and didn't know the horses were in the wrong barriers was not fined for incompetence.Is this because they are a protective bunch and are above the Rules. A young fellow gets fined for an early wave 2 strides before the post in the Hokitika Cup and yet the steward gets nothing.Hardly fair in my opinion. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 I'd love to know how they found out.......was it social media? I'm picking they got a phone call and that was the only thing that stopped them from doing it again in race 2. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hesi Posted January 15, 2019 Share Posted January 15, 2019 A bit like the starting gates at Racing central(Te Rapa), how did they find out when they were 100m out Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 The only redeeming feature was they were all Apprentices... ...now D Hirini has had too many rides not to know what barrier she's supposed to be in...especially barrier 1 compared to the outer... Is she meek enough to believe the starter when he said "you're in 8" maybe? Did the Sth Is. starters go to the Training School at Ellerslie last year ...or just to eat the free Godber lunch and get pissed? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 I think you will find she drew one and was in one -just the gates were numbered the wrong way for a RH track Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 No Fred, she started from the outside...that's why the starter lost his fee and more .. ...after losing his marbles Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted January 16, 2019 Share Posted January 16, 2019 1 minute ago, Thomass said: No Fred, she started from the outside...that's why the starter lost his fee and more .. ...after losing his marbles ....and nine riders, multiple barrier staff as WELL as the starter, two clerks of the course, the vet, and one stipe.....and no-one noticed. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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