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[curious]

[Newmarket]

15 minutes ago, curious said:

Good on you for posting…. as I have always said the gallops rate of deaths is not good, far worse than Australia per % of races. 
Be interesting to see death rates of dogs racing in Australia… 

 

[Chief Stipe]

9 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

as I have always said the gallops rate of deaths is not good, far worse than Australia per % of races. 

Bollocks - proof?

10 minutes ago, Newmarket said:

Be interesting to see death rates of dogs racing in Australia… 

Why would it be "interesting"?  Why focus on a statistic that is impossible to get to zero when zero is the only figure that would appease the anti-racing minority? 

Sadly 1,500 Greyhoinds bred to run will never run at a full gallop again well at least not without a Hannibal Lecter face mask.

 

[Freda]

2 hours ago, curious said:

Wow.  Interesting indeed.

[Doomed]

Quite a strange one the whole Greyhound situation. I can only imagine that Winston figures that if they get rid of the greyhounds in NZ then all of the commission earned from NZ betting on Australian greyhounds will be distributed to the horse codes. 

I find it hard to believe Winston would give in to a tiny but vocal and fanatical cohort of anti dog racing people, especially since he knows their next target will be horse racing.

[the galah]

2 hours ago, Newmarket said:

Good on you for posting…. as I have always said the gallops rate of deaths is not good, far worse than Australia per % of races. 
Be interesting to see death rates of dogs racing in Australia… 

 

the  greyhound NSW inquiry,which was to ensure a viable and sustainable future ,is suppoised to release its report by today,(31/7/2025).Previously the report date had been extended twice for several months,due to the volume of submissions and evidence taken at the hearing.

that will be interesting reading.

Edited 16 hours ago by the galah

[Newmarket]

2 minutes ago, the galah said:

the  greyhound NSW inquiry into whether the sport is viable and sustainable ,which went on for months,is suppoised to release its report by today,(31/7/2025).Previously the report date had been extended twice for several months,due to the volume of submissions and evidence taken at the hearing.

that will be interesting reading.

Have a mate living in Aus, pressure on to get rid of jumping. We all know 3 died at the the Bool late last year. 

[Newmarket]

2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

Bollocks - proof?

Why would it be "interesting"?  Why focus on a statistic that is impossible to get to zero when zero is the only figure that would appease the anti-racing minority? 

Sadly 1,500 Greyhoinds bred to run will never run at a full gallop again well at least not without a Hannibal Lecter face mask.

 

You always get the wrong end of the stick, I LOVE JUMPING RACES. 
 

But things should change as jumping racing both here and Aus not a good look. 
 

Maybe run over shorter distances, seems most fall later in race. Maybe some jump races shouldn’t be run on certain tracks…. lower fences? 
 

I don’t have all the answers, but the dog brigade over many years could have sharpened up their game…which could have saved them.

[the galah]

3 hours ago, Newmarket said:

good on you for posting…. as I have always said the gallops rate of deaths is not good, far worse than Australia per % of races. 
Be interesting to see death rates of dogs racing in Australia… 

 

also,the coalition for the protection of greyhounds websites,keep regularly updated stats as to greyhound deaths and injuries on the tracks within australia..

e.g.  73 on track deaths and 6280 injuries according to their website,so far in 2025.

it lists specifics. for each death. you can see most of the deaths are a result of interference.

so its sort of different in a way to horse racing, the actual racing is a lesser factor that causes the deaths or injuries to the horses. Especially harness,they have very few deaths due to racing.That comment is not to lessen the horse deaths,just an observation.as to when they occur.

Edited 16 hours ago by the galah

[Newmarket]

14 minutes ago, the galah said:

also,the coalition for the protection of greyhounds websites,keep regularly updated stats as to greyhound deaths and injuries on the tracks within australia..

e.g.  73 on track deaths and 6280 injuries according to their website,so far in 2025.

it lists specifics. for each death. you can see most of the deaths are a result of interference.

so its sort of different in a way to horse racing, the actual racing is a lesser factor that causes the deaths or injuries to the horses. Especially harness,they have very few deaths due to racing.That comment is not to lessen the horse deaths,just an observation.as to when they occur.

Yeah, true. 
 

I suppose with harness at least no fences in front of them🫣🤣

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

You always get the wrong end of the stick, I LOVE JUMPING RACES. 

Then why bang on about horses falling?  Your comments about the recent Te Aroha jumps meeting are biased - for example you don't mention that the horses that fell all had minor injuries mostly minor lacerations that may not have even been the result of falling.

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

But things should change as jumping racing both here and Aus not a good look. 

Good look for whom?  The ignorant and the anti-racing minority?  The jumps races are no worse than a 3 day event or a hunt cross country.

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

Maybe run over shorter distances, seems most fall later in race. Maybe some jump races shouldn’t be run on certain tracks…. lower fences? 

You miss the point of jumps racing.  It is an alternative career for horses that generally aren't fast enough on the flat or have reached their mark.  The option for those horses is the knackers truck or "rehoming".

Your solutions for an imaginary problem is to make the jumps races faster!!!!  Did you Aussie mate point out to you that the lower upended broom fences in OZ don't seem to make things worse.

1 hour ago, Newmarket said:

I don’t have all the answers, but the dog brigade over many years could have sharpened up their game…which could have saved them.

It wouldn't have made a difference what GRNZ did.  They were the easy first target of the anti-racing minority.  Then to make matters worse they started reporting on KPI's that they had very little chance of improving by management action.  The shot themselves in the paw aided and abetted by supposedly industry supporters (like yourself and @Yankiwi ).

There is a natural attrition rate in racing animals however for Greyhounds it is a damn sight better than the population of doggy pets in the community.  The hypocrisy of this so called animal lovers seems to escape most people.  They would do more for the doggy community by running ads promoting and educating dog owners on how to feed their dogs correctly.  Greyhound trainers would be able to give expert advice on that.

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

it lists specifics. for each death. you can see most of the deaths are a result of interference.

Which GRNZ or anyone for that matter can do very little about.  Deaths from interference even occur on straight tracks.  But as you point out the casualty rate is very low.