Brodie Posted November 6 Posted November 6 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Come on @Brodie !! Be nice to those "other punters" afterall it was they that contributed to your millions of dollars of winnings! I can see some hypocrisy here. Chief, more hypocrisy when they advertise Bet Responsibly and yet the Out The Gate wagering is far from Betting Responsibly! All I ask is that all punters are given equal opportunity as after all it is gambling business! Quote
Brodie Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) The thing is if they are wanting to run a show like this to encourage wagering, then have people on that actually have enough ability to be able to make money! for them to be talking about PROFITLAND is just not that clever, they should be making money most weeks with the way the TAB lets them offload as much as they like with no restrictions! They might as well have on different drunks on each week wagering, would be just as successful and a helluva lot more fun for the viewers! Edited November 7 by Brodie Quote
Shab Posted November 7 Posted November 7 5 hours ago, Brodie said: All I ask is that all punters are given equal opportunity as after all it is gambling business The minister in charge says it’s not. It’s the entertainment industry. Quote
Brodie Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) 16 minutes ago, Shab said: The minister in charge says it’s not. It’s the entertainment industry. Not entertainment for all! It definitely a gambling industry, and they should be taking the good with the bad as such! Morally and ethically wrong that participants are treated differently! How they get away with it is very hard to fathom in this day and age?  Edited November 7 by Brodie Quote
the galah Posted November 7 Posted November 7 (edited) like i've said before,i think its ok and is entertaining enough to justify continuing. I can see why it may frustrate some who liked the status quo. but if you are trying to appeal to a new demographic then you have to try something that may work with that demographic. What concerns me more is the way some of the harness horses they select perform.I've come to the conclusion watching their bets on harness,that its going to turn people off harness as their selections or their drivers underpeform so much,normally at cambridge of course. some of them simply go awful or gallop for no reason. Some of that is understandable as A White seems to like tipping trotters that gallop 4 times out of 5 at cambridge. He often says,they will win next time they trot all the way,after watching them gallop hopelessly as per normal. Some of the ones he tips are real head scratchers but the again hes having to tip on a poor cambridge product. i've watched some of their bets and they often have said after the race,well that one just sat at the back and made its move too late. Well they say that because like anyone who else had backed some of their selections,thats what happens a lot. so i don't think the hosts should be blamed much for there wins or losses. Yesterday a mccook tipped the favorite that they backed in the last at oamaru,bettor go vinnie and it inexplicably galloped so much that every time he mentioned it,it was still in a gallop.each time he went trhrough the field in his commentary. Really people who are part of that betting syndicate would get the impression betting on the harness is not a good idea..Maybe they just have been having a bad run at the nz trots,but i don't think they've ever done well on harness so far. Edited November 7 by the galah Quote
Chief Stipe Posted November 7 Posted November 7 23 hours ago, Brodie said: All I ask is that all punters are given equal opportunity as after all it is gambling business! Join the dots - if mug punters don't lose then @Brodie doesn't win big or at all. Quote
Brodie Posted November 8 Posted November 8 5 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Join the dots - if mug punters don't lose then @Brodie doesn't win big or at all. Yes there are plenty of mug punters going by the big bets notified on Trackside! Thing is there will always be but punters should be treated equally as to how much you are able to get on. Â 1 Quote
PeterLambFan Posted November 10 Posted November 10 On 11/8/2025 at 3:22 PM, Brodie said: Yes there are plenty of mug punters going by the big bets notified on Trackside! Thing is there will always be but punters should be treated equally as to how much you are able to get on.  How much have you put in the cup day out the gate syndicate? Quote
PeterLambFan Posted November 20 Posted November 20 @Brodie Apologies for the delay, we want to thank you for your patience as we arrive in PROFIT LAND 🛬 Just like the Wahs, you've gotta have faith, and the boys have repaid that faith 3x 💰💰💰 Out The Gate, powered by Betcha NZ. Same time next week. Let's do it all again 🙌 Quote
Brodie Posted November 20 Posted November 20 13 minutes ago, PeterLambFan said: @Brodie Apologies for the delay, we want to thank you for your patience as we arrive in PROFIT LAND 🛬 Just like the Wahs, you've gotta have faith, and the boys have repaid that faith 3x 💰💰💰 Out The Gate, powered by Betcha NZ. Same time next week. Let's do it all again 🙌 Did they triple their money tonight? About time, I watched some of it but they were betting mainly on the dishlickers going on about Same Race Multis etc. etc! They are not good punters, but then again the TAB knkw that. The hypocrisy that the TAB dishes out in NZ is just repugnant! They go on about betting responsibly and yet the Out The Gate do nothing like that! These fellahs are allowed to bet whatever they like with the NZ TAB and they get every bet on, easy as! AND yet other punters are restricted to buggerall after being loyal to the TAB for decades. If it is good enough for these blokes on Thursday night to be able to offload several thousand on a bet, HOW ON EARTH IS IT OK FOR THE TAB TO STOP OTHER PUNTERS FROM PUTTING ON $100????????   Quote
PeterLambFan Posted November 20 Posted November 20 (edited) 15 minutes ago, Brodie said: Did they triple their money tonight? About time, I watched some of it but they were betting mainly on the dishlickers going on about Same Race Multis etc. etc! They are not good punters, but then again the TAB knkw that. The hypocrisy that the TAB dishes out in NZ is just repugnant! They go on about betting responsibly and yet the Out The Gate do nothing like that! These fellahs are allowed to bet whatever they like with the NZ TAB and they get every bet on, easy as! AND yet other punters are restricted to buggerall after being loyal to the TAB for decades. If it is good enough for these blokes on Thursday night to be able to offload several thousand on a bet, HOW ON EARTH IS IT OK FOR THE TAB TO STOP OTHER PUNTERS FROM PUTTING ON $100????????   I was to busy dancing in my lounge celebrating to know what they bet on or how much they won.  At this rate they will be more restricted than the Broadster in no time. Edited November 20 by PeterLambFan 1 2 Quote
Brodie Posted November 20 Posted November 20 9 hours ago, PeterLambFan said: I was to busy dancing in my lounge celebrating to know what they bet on or how much they won.  At this rate they will be more restricted than the Broadster in no time. Would hardly think they would be more restricted than Brodie. Great that they won last night from betting big on the greyhounds, but they are coming to an end next year. No problem with them making money for punters that want to give them money, but TAB needs to treat all punters equally, but then we know that they dont. Quote
the galah Posted November 20 Posted November 20 (edited) 11 hours ago, PeterLambFan said: I was to busy dancing in my lounge celebrating to know what they bet on or how much they won.  At this rate they will be more restricted than the Broadster in no time. having a musician on like the one last night ,was cetainly different,but i found it entertaining in a positive way. Obviously mitch james is a well known musician,but these blokes should go with whats natural for them even if its outside the norm for the average trackside viewer,as being themselves is what makes them entertaining. is what they do a suitable look for the trackside channel. well for me i would say ,definitely,yes. what i like about them is ,when they're being themselves,they seem really genuine happy people who enjoy having a play on the punt and taking those who invest in their betting pools along for the ride.. I don't think people should focus too much on whether they win or lose or how much they bet at a time,as that doesn't seem to be the point,the point is they are there to have this good time and from entains perspective ,show the general public that you can put $10 in a betting pool,have a nights entertainent, as well as follow bets in every race. thats what it used to be like when you went to the races 25 years ago. The people serious about the sport like those who watch the races on a thursday night would be there, but also lots of people who went along to the races to have a good time and not focus much on whether they won or lost on the punt,were there. You want the latter to give the sport a boost... Edited November 20 by the galah Quote
Spatchcock Posted November 21 Posted November 21 Great show with a big profit for those who invested. Gets better and better every week. 1 Quote
PeterLambFan Posted November 21 Posted November 21 9 hours ago, the galah said: having a musician on like the one last night ,was cetainly different,but i found it entertaining in a positive way. Obviously mitch james is a well known musician,but these blokes should go with whats natural for them even if its outside the norm for the average trackside viewer,as being themselves is what makes them entertaining. is what they do a suitable look for the trackside channel. well for me i would say ,definitely,yes. what i like about them is ,when they're being themselves,they seem really genuine happy people who enjoy having a play on the punt and taking those who invest in their betting pools along for the ride.. I don't think people should focus too much on whether they win or lose or how much they bet at a time,as that doesn't seem to be the point,the point is they are there to have this good time and from entains perspective ,show the general public that you can put $10 in a betting pool,have a nights entertainent, as well as follow bets in every race. thats what it used to be like when you went to the races 25 years ago. The people serious about the sport like those who watch the races on a thursday night would be there, but also lots of people who went along to the races to have a good time and not focus much on whether they won or lost on the punt,were there. You want the latter to give the sport a boost... Yip I agree, it’s about appealing to a different market and attempting to generate more revenue. Quote
Rangatira Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago 3 hours ago, Rangatira said: The excitement is building. Â Cha Ching Cha Ching 1 Quote
Brodie Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 34 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Cha Ching Cha Ching Great that they are winning betting on Greyhounds. what it does show though is the ethics of the TAB! Dont get me wrong I hope they continue to win for those that continue to chuck their hard earned into the pot each week! What is morally wrong is the way that their employees are allowed to wager any amount they want and have no limits as to how much they can win!!!! Whereas if you are not an employee of the TAB you are restricted to a net very little and also stopped from taking some of the options available to others! Will be very Interesting To see if the hypocrisy and favouritism to some is allowed to continue as any other punter in NZ would now be restricted to winning buggerall. Â Edited 1 hour ago by Brodie Quote
Spatchcock Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago Brodie, if the syndicate has 300 members and the bet is $1000, that is, roughly a $3 bet per person (I know different people have different stakes). This isn't one person having a big bet, this is 100s of people, collectively having a little bet in unison.   Quote
Brodie Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago (edited) 30 minutes ago, Spatchcock said: Brodie, if the syndicate has 300 members and the bet is $1000, that is, roughly a $3 bet per person (I know different people have different stakes). This isn't one person having a big bet, this is 100s of people, collectively having a little bet in unison.   Totally Irrelevant, it is Out The Gate punting an unrestricted amount of money at full odds with no slashing of odds, for a group, not individuals! if it is 300 people punting at the same time then the odds would be slashed accordingly. It is about the liability to the TAB for each bet and it is just a continuation of how the TAB treats some very loyal punters poorly, whereas others get favouritism! This policy of treating punters differently has gone on for a long time but does not make it right, and if you knew the full story then you would understand more!  Edited 1 hour ago by Brodie Quote
PeterLambFan Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago @Brodie what are you more impressed with? There punting ability or there celebrations when they win?  Quote
Spatchcock Posted 49 minutes ago Posted 49 minutes ago 12 minutes ago, Brodie said: Â if it is 300 people punting at the same time then the odds would be slashed accordingly. Â Â I accept this point, and it is fair, especially on hounds. Quote
Rangatira Posted 37 minutes ago Posted 37 minutes ago 23 minutes ago, PeterLambFan said: @Brodie what are you more impressed with? There punting ability or there celebrations when they win?  Celebrations are very awkward and I am going download the "unsee" app tomorrow Quote
PeterLambFan Posted 15 minutes ago Posted 15 minutes ago 21 minutes ago, Rangatira said: Celebrations are very awkward and I am going download the "unsee" app tomorrow I’m lead to believe the Broadster is a former two time Rangiora line dancing champion so he will appreciate the celebration. 1 Quote
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