Murray Fish Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 8 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: es it was innovative of the Club at the time. Talking Otaki, as the Bayer gained in ratings, it then mobilized (sir) Arthur Williams to start spending the $$$ to get Terrace Regency up and running with the goal of G1... Quote
hesi Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes it was innovative of the Club at the time. But that's what happens with Clubs from time to time you have an Executive that goes "What the hell lets give this a go"! It works for a while and then politics creep in - committee members change and the new idea people can't get a look in. I remember on a much smaller scale a similar committee at the Westland Racing Club came up with the Miss Scenicland Stakes. Worked for a while and then the energy left. I still don't understand how for a very small amount of money someone can sponsor a race at a country race meeting in memory of grandad. Clubs now have no idea about marketing and rely on the administrators or ENTAIN to do it for them. Yes, it is all about this entrepreneurial streak that comes along from time to time. It is not really a beast that survives under 'committee rule'. Just look at every fucking council in NZ, or should I say Aotearoa lol. Then again this entrepreneurial thing is not guarantee of success. Classic case being Chris Weaver and how he totally stuffed what was the second best carnival in NZ racing, the 4 days at Ellerslie over BD/NYD. They used to get 10,000 on that infield on Boxing Day, all sorts, with their hydraulic platforms to watch each race. No one died lol Just shows, it is not about a country/city thing, it is all about an inspired vision and the passion to make it happen. An almost total rarity in racing clubs these days. They have done well to get the KM day going and also the NZB Kiwi, but they haven't got the formula right nor it would appear the will to get it right 1 1 Quote
Newmarket Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 23 hours ago, Dark Beau said: What's your answer Chief to your own question? I know for certain that you will have an opinion, as you always do. Yeah, true…. Funny that the site owner disagrees with the majority of posters on here…. not sure why he does not delete everyone, still post under our names, then comments would agree with everything he says… Quote
hesi Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 13 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes it was innovative of the Club at the time. But that's what happens with Clubs from time to time you have an Executive that goes "What the hell lets give this a go"! It works for a while and then politics creep in - committee members change and the new idea people can't get a look in. I remember on a much smaller scale a similar committee at the Westland Racing Club came up with the Miss Scenicland Stakes. Worked for a while and then the energy left. I still don't understand how for a very small amount of money someone can sponsor a race at a country race meeting in memory of grandad. Clubs now have no idea about marketing and rely on the administrators or ENTAIN to do it for them. Clubs never had any idea about marketing, nor did they have the resource. I have mentioned this before, it is a bit like each individual kiwifruit grower marketing their product, not a hope. Then along came Zespri and everyone had to join so the kiwifruit industry went ahead in leaps and bounds with oodles of resource and professional marketing and administration Quote
Murray Fish Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 52 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Even in those days Trainers and Owners chased the big dollars. It was around this time that most of 'our' better 3yr olds were still running in our black type races, then, slowly slowly the better ones started to be targeted by Overseas $$$. The Bayer then for a few years was a race when the top fillies often tried to beat the boys, often involving lots of press leading up to! If the truth be known! the Levin track might have been the smallest ever to run G1 races.. I recall a rider who won the race twice recon one she stole with a front running ride! 1 Quote
hesi Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 5 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Yeah, true…. Funny that the site owner disagrees with the majority of posters on here…. not sure why he does not delete everyone, still post under our names, then comments would agree with everything he says… He may have his faults, but I believe this would never happen, as happened on another site, ad nauseum, and what led to the establishment of this and other sites 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 1 hour ago Author Posted 1 hour ago 7 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Yeah, true…. Funny that the site owner disagrees with the majority of posters on here…. not sure why he does not delete everyone, still post under our names, then comments would agree with everything he says… Uh? Try the Premier Anti-racing site for that behaviour. BTW its called debate. If you look at BOAY rules they are pub school rules. 1 Quote
hesi Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 4 minutes ago, Murray Fish said: It was around this time that most of 'our' better 3yr olds were still running in our black type races, then, slowly slowly the better ones started to be targeted by Overseas $$$. The Bayer then for a few years was a race when the top fillies often tried to beat the boys, often involving lots of press leading up to! If the truth be known! the Levin track might have been the smallest ever to run G1 races.. I recall a rider who won the race twice recon one she stole with a front running ride! On the topic of running G1's on small tracks, Matamata of course running the Windsor Park Plate when HB couldn't Quote
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