hesi Posted yesterday at 02:47 AM Posted yesterday at 02:47 AM Apologies changed my mind viewing the overhead she did start veering in 3-4 lengths before the rail changing colour Quote
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 02:58 AM Posted yesterday at 02:58 AM 18 minutes ago, hesi said: Apologies changed my mind viewing the overhead she did start veering in 3-4 lengths before the rail changing colour Yes but where was she looking at that point? Or rather how far ahead was she looking. Horses don't run into things if they can see them. Just to throw something else into the mix did you notice her trying to take a chunk out of the clerk of the course's horse? She definitely isn't happy about something. She chucked it in real quick in the Manikato and in the Railway - both Craig Williams rides. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 03:30 AM Posted yesterday at 03:30 AM Just another thought @hesi if you are running that close to the rail wouldn't it be prudent of the Jockey to hit the horse on the rail side? Quote
curious Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM Posted yesterday at 04:47 AM 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Just another thought @hesi if you are running that close to the rail wouldn't it be prudent of the Jockey to hit the horse on the rail side? You mean like Craig Williams did in the Railway after she veered inwards from the left-handed strike? 1 Quote
bono Posted yesterday at 04:48 AM Posted yesterday at 04:48 AM I have a screenshot that shows she's at least 3l from the colour change when she's on her way into the rail Quote
Chief Stipe Posted yesterday at 05:36 AM Posted yesterday at 05:36 AM 47 minutes ago, bono said: I have a screenshot that shows she's at least 3l from the colour change when she's on her way into the rail Well done. But where was she looking? Quote
curious Posted yesterday at 06:05 AM Posted yesterday at 06:05 AM 27 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Well done. But where was she looking? Looking to see if she was going to get another left hander on the flank. 3 1 Quote
billy connolly Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 23 hours ago, hesi said: viewing the overhead she did start veering in 3-4 lengths before the rail changing colour Not dissimilar to steering a vehicle around a bend, you begin to do so well beforehand. Similar also to jumpers having white painted sighter boards as a take-off point before a fence. Horses have nearly 360 degrees of peripheral vision but poor focus. In my view advertising paraphernalia wrapped around the running rail was the sole reason for Alabama Lass detouring at the point where the rail colour changed from white to black, to which second-rate officials/stewards were oblivious. 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 21 hours ago, curious said: Looking to see if she was going to get another left hander on the flank. The Jockey should have right handed her. I'd say Collett's post race anger was directed at herself. Quote
Chief Stipe Posted 6 hours ago Posted 6 hours ago 31 minutes ago, billy connolly said: In my view advertising paraphernalia wrapped around the running rail was the sole reason for Alabama Lass detouring at the point where the rail colour changed from white to black, to which second-rate officials/stewards were oblivious. I'm not convinced it was the sole reason but agree it could have been a factor. Horses see white exceptionally well. Presumably running rails are white so horses can see them which begs the question - why change the colour for the last 100m to something harder for the horse to see? No one can read the advertising on the rail anyway unless you are the Jockey on their way going through it. Perhaps the irony is it is so the Stipes know when to count the number of whip strikes in the last 100m!!!! 1 Quote
hesi Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) I note former and very experienced jockey Bob Vance supports the theory it was the colour change that caused the horse to shy Edited 5 hours ago by hesi 1 Quote
All The Aces Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago On 3/7/2026 at 3:56 PM, hesi said: Have a look at the video, was not in reaction to a whip strike. Collet used the whip twice 20-30 m before she shied Rubbish!! Collett only ever hit her once and the horse reacted. Collett carried the whip in her right hand and the only movement was when she gathered the reins and changed the whip to her left hand before the strike. Probably no need to use the whip either as she had Sweynesday covered. 1 2 Quote
curious Posted 4 hours ago Posted 4 hours ago 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: The Jockey should have right handed her. I'd say Collett's post race anger was directed at herself. Agree. Quote
Dark Beau Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 7/03/2026 at 9:33 PM, The Centaur said: She veered outwards late in the piece of last years Railway against Crocetti. Did she. How is that any more relevant than I bet on her? Quote
Dark Beau Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago On 8/03/2026 at 4:30 PM, Chief Stipe said: Just another thought @hesi if you are running that close to the rail wouldn't it be prudent of the Jockey to hit the horse on the rail side? Why? Quote
Dark Beau Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: The Jockey should have right handed her. I'd say Collett's post race anger was directed at herself. Strong possibility, but isn't hindsight a wonderful thing? Quote
Shab Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago Nothing wrong with the ride. Good on TAB refunding bets with bonus money. Blame the clowns that covered up the rail for what happened Quote
Murray Fish Posted 2 hours ago Author Posted 2 hours ago 15 minutes ago, Shab said: . Good on TAB refunding bets with bonus money tick! Quote
curious Posted 2 hours ago Posted 2 hours ago Yes and she veered towards the rail, not shied away from it. She also tried to jump it which she hardly would have done if she couldn't see it. In the Railway, she veered in when hit left handed and then out late when CW changed his stick over, didn't she? Quote
billy connolly Posted 1 hour ago Posted 1 hour ago 49 minutes ago, curious said: She also tried to jump it which she hardly would have done if she couldn't see it. She hit rail before taking flight which is what most horses do when confronted with an unexpected obstacle. You have no idea. Quote
Gammalite Posted 39 minutes ago Posted 39 minutes ago Wow . that was some crazy incident. don't see that sort of stuff everyday. I just watched it now after reading this thread. Why she did it is the quandary. Personally having been in a few races , you do find the odd horse that will look for the 'quick way out'. an exit to the track. Several have veered out towards the exit gate if given the opportunity. You see the odd one do it at the gallops up the home straight , when they're off the bit and getting tired. Also the whip and yelling and noise are a way a jockey/driver scares the horse into 'keeping going' as always. The combo of the Black rail looking a bit like an exit for her , and the fright from the Big whack from Sam look to of combined for this moment of near disaster. Kudos to the Running rail crew / designer with the horse bouncing off and remaining fairly uninjured. 'Egmont Kowhai ' got 'impaled through the chest on the running rail at Alexandra Park one time (when they used to have a fixed running rail ) on Owen Purdon. about 100m out from the line, just like Alabama lass too. Was a very traumatic scene indeed took them a long time to get her off. I think she recovered in the end after surgery. there's an old photo somewhere I should try and find. Quote
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