tougher times to come

[the galah]

with the war in iran,its becoming obvious that petrol prices are going to just keep going up for some time.

That of course is going to impact everyone in the harness industry as travel is a significant cost for anyone who is taking horses to the races and owners will pay more as well..

then you have the discretionary $ available from punting households. That must be impacted by the extra they pay for petrol and the inevitable rise  other costs.

since the war started,iran have stated over and over ,that they will not end the war until they are ready,not when the usa says.And they have repeatedly said their strategy is to create economic turmoil that exposes the usa  for the instigators of the worlds economic turmoil and that way they the usa will never come back whenever they want to bomb the hell out of them and that they want reparations and one or two other strategic things. So that strategy makes sense when you think about it ,so its irrelevant what trump says about the war,even though trump seems to haver lost his marbles.I used to be a trump supporter,but what a hypocrite he.'s turned out to be. Went on and on about not wanting death and destruction in ukraine but then goes and does the same thing. And what about what hes doing to the cuban people

Anyways,the point is,this war is going to impacteverything and its going to be long term impacts and the harness industry needs to start thinking of strategies to ensure they operate within their budgets going forward. We all think they aren't currently,so they really need to start thinking ahead to limit the impacts of the war. Because this will defintely have an impact.

[Shad]

56 minutes ago, the galah said:

with the war in iran,its becoming obvious that petrol prices are going to just keep going up for some time.

That of course is going to impact everyone in the harness industry as travel is a significant cost for anyone who is taking horses to the races and owners will pay more as well..

then you have the discretionary $ available from punting households. That must be impacted by the extra they pay for petrol and the inevitable rise  other costs.

since the war started,iran have stated over and over ,that they will not end the war until they are ready,not when the usa says.And they have repeatedly said their strategy is to create economic turmoil that exposes the usa  for the instigators of the worlds economic turmoil and that way they the usa will never come back whenever they want to bomb the hell out of them and that they want reparations and one or two other strategic things. So that strategy makes sense when you think about it ,so its irrelevant what trump says about the war,even though trump seems to haver lost his marbles.I used to be a trump supporter,but what a hypocrite he.'s turned out to be. Went on and on about not wanting death and destruction in ukraine but then goes and does the same thing. And what about what hes doing to the cuban people

Anyways,the point is,this war is going to impacteverything and its going to be long term impacts and the harness industry needs to start thinking of strategies to ensure they operate within their budgets going forward. We all think they aren't currently,so they really need to start thinking ahead to limit the impacts of the war. Because this will defintely have an impact.

Yes tough times ahead, all costs will be passed on, unless of course, the trainers could trot them to the trots, like the old days,War good for nothing, and impacting all of us in some form or another, and the there’s the innocent victims.

[Chief Stipe]

7 minutes ago, Shad said:

War good for nothing, and impacting all of us in some form or another, and the there’s the innocent victims.

The Iran War was inevitable and is necessary.  A wake up call for those countries that let the radicals just tick away building and storing weapons.  

[Chief Stipe]

1 hour ago, the galah said:

since the war started,iran have stated over and over ,that they will not end the war until they are ready,not when the usa says.And they have repeatedly said their strategy is to create economic turmoil that exposes the usa  for the instigators of the worlds economic turmoil and that way they the usa will never come back whenever they want to bomb the hell out of them and that they want reparations and one or two other strategic things. So that strategy makes sense when you think about it ,so its irrelevant what trump says about the war,even though trump seems to haver lost his marbles.I used to be a trump supporter,but what a hypocrite he.'s turned out to be. Went on and on about not wanting death and destruction in ukraine but then goes and does the same thing. And what about what hes doing to the cuban people

I suggest you stick to commenting on Harness Racing.  Your understanding of Geo-politics is far less.

[Shad]

24 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

The Iran War was inevitable and is necessary.  A wake up call for those countries that let the radicals just tick away building and storing weapons.  

You may feel a tad different if it was some of your family innocently taken,easy to say from the comfort of NZ, we’ll see how it plays out, but I’d say there will be no winners in any form,anyway back to the harness racing, why the heck in this day and age why race results are slow coming through, one time they were up in a flash, good racing at Methven today must go there one day, I see they’ve got a meeting, but see it’s only tentatively booked at this stage on the 12th aprilmaybe live life on da edge and go hot air ballooning while I’m there, I hear they have it there.

[Chief Stipe]

3 minutes ago, Shad said:

You may feel a tad different if it was some of your family innocently taken

I feel for the 30,000 protestors killed in a few months who just wanted the draconian regime to end.

There will be winners and it will be the USA and late to the party Allies - just like Iraq and latterly Syria.

[paleface adios]

5 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I feel for the 30,000 protestors killed in a few months who just wanted the draconian regime to end.

There will be winners and it will be the USA and late to the party Allies - just like Iraq and latterly Syria.

Was there war at methven  today  going by stubble  burn off lol

Edited March 22 by paleface adios

[the galah]

56 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

The Iran War was inevitable and is necessary.  A wake up call for those countries that let the radicals just tick away building and storing weapons.  

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so you think itt necessary to put the world into economic turmoil ,displace millions,all the deaths,the predicted food shortages,etc ,all because one middle eastern country has an oppressive regime.

that just makes no sense at all to me. 

 as to trump,it guarantees he will lose both the senate and congress majorities that were already questionable so trump has virtually made himself a lame duck president for his last 2 years.

trump has massively miscalculated .

Even,gabbard,the head of trumps own inteligence agency said in senate hearings this week that her  intelligence agencies assessed iran was not building a nuclear weapon and that it had no intention of lauching any preemptive  attack on the usa. Thats why she repeatedly,when asked how her agencies assessed the iran threat in this weeks senate hearings,avoided answering by repeatedly saying trump has assessed them as an iminenent threat.

And the israelis took out the ayatollah who was known as a moderating voice in iran.

the news coverage is really poor. The nz news does not illustrate whats actually happening in the middle east or around the world.

this war may be what israel want,but they give no indications they care at all about anything but their own country.

if you watch fox,its like nazi germany propoganda. No wonder they say republicans still support the war when you see how the news outlets they watch are reporting the war.

al jazeera is the only news outlet which reports every day from around the world on how this war has and will impact countires all over the world.

anyways,,i don't want to go on and on.

Also,why aren't nz news reporting  what trump is doing to the cubans. For 3 months now cuba has not received any oil due to a usa  blockade.

they're trying to make life so miserable for the cubans that they give up and let trump run cuba through his proxies.Cubans have had power blackouts,things like hospitals are not doing surgeries,aid agencies can't help anyone because they have no petrol to get anything anywhere,they can't collect rubbish because of no petrol,they reckon things like infant mortality is rising,etc ,etc,etc. i watxhed one recent interview where a woman was crying asking why are they making our lives so miserable and what have the cuban public done to deserve this treatment from the usa.

 

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[the galah]

 

28 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

I feel for the 30,000 protestors killed in a few months who just wanted the draconian regime to end.

There will be winners and it will be the USA and late to the party Allies - just like Iraq and latterly Syria.

30,000. well thats what the israels said wasn't it. Who really knows as we know israel is masters of  propoganda  .

but thats what you get when you have trump telling them,rise up,overthrow your governamnt,we've got your back.

In other words,who incited the riots and why did trump think the iranian government with their million person army sit there and say,yes come on down,take over and take everything we've got and imprison us,etc,etc.I mean,trumps as much responsible for that as anyone.

anyways,if you think the usa allies are winning,i'd hate to see what you think losing would look like.

actually,i'm thinking you may  just have been taking the piss after reading that comment about iraq.

iraq is an interesting country. Usa embassies and military bases are being attacked by three different groups,including 2 iraqi groups alligned to iran,in the last week.

those countries are so complicated with all their different factions. 

Edited March 22 by the galah

[Chief Stipe]

12 minutes ago, the galah said:

so you think itt necessary to put the world into economic turmoil ,displace millions,all the deaths,the predicted food shortages,etc ,all because one middle eastern country has an oppressive regime.

Yes.  But you are exaggerating when you say "economic turmoil".  Which millions have been displaced?  So far the Iranian regime has killed 30 x more of their own population in the last few months than Israel or the USA have.  Predicted food shortages?  Where?  Hasn't happened yet.  Iran is more than an oppresive regime - it is an extremely dangerous regime that has no concept of the value of human life.

15 minutes ago, the galah said:

 as to trump,it guarantees he will lose both the senate and congress majorities that were already questionable so trump has virtually made himself a lame duck president for his last 2 years.

Long way to go on that.  If he does then it shoes how lame the western world has become.  The UK is stuffed due to left wing wokeism, France the same and Germany isn't much better.

16 minutes ago, the galah said:

Even,gabbard,the head of trumps own inteligence agency said in senate hearings this week that her  intelligence agencies assessed iran was not building a nuclear weapon and that it had no intention of lauching any preemptive  attack on the usa. Thats why she repeatedly,when asked how her agencies assessed the iran threat in this weeks senate hearings,avoided answering by repeatedly saying trump has assessed them as an iminenent threat.

I suggest you widen your reading sources from both sides rather than focussing on CNN.  If Iran was not building a nuclear weapon why have nearly 500kg of enriched uranium at a level of enrichment that only takes days to enrich to weapons grade?  Why not hand it over and accept the USA offer to provide all the low grade enriched uranium they need to power their nuclear power plants?  Why sneer in the face of the negotiators and say no?  

Once uranium enrichment reaches 60% the next step is relatively quick.  They would have enough weapons grade uranium for at least a dozen Hiroshima bombs probably many many more.  

22 minutes ago, the galah said:

And the israelis took out the ayatollah who was known as a moderating voice in iran.

BS.  The Ayatollah that decreed the killing of 30,000 of his citizens?  More CNN kool aid.

23 minutes ago, the galah said:

Also,why aren't nz news reporting  what trump is doing to the cubans. For 3 months now cuba has not received any oil due to a usa  blockade.

They have been reporting what is happening in Cuba - you have to look harder to find it than the NZ media trashing of the current government and running distractions for the lying left leaders such as Hipkins.

Cuba has been a cot case for decades and a Russian proxy.  Did you know that Cuba is half the distance between Hokitika and Christchurch?  Why would you want a Russian proxy that close to you?

 

[Chief Stipe]

12 minutes ago, the galah said:

30,000. well thats what the israels said wasn't it. Who really knows as we know israel is masters of  propoganda  .

No it isn't what the Israelis said.  That figure is confirmed by many alternative sources including the UN.

Hell why don't you check out Al Jazeera.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/21/iran-demands-evidence-as-trump-un-experts-highlight-protest-killings

[Chief Stipe]

16 minutes ago, the galah said:

those countries are so complicated with all their different factions. 

No they're not.  I suggest you do more research.

[the galah]

12 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

No they're not.  I suggest you do more research.

well ive previously spoken to an iraqi man at length ,who was still there there during the usa  war.

He moved here about 10 years ago..

i'm confident he knows what hes talking about given thats where he was from and where his family still lives.

other research i've done just confirmed what he has said anyway.So perhaps you need to do more research.

Edited March 22 by the galah

[Chief Stipe]

6 minutes ago, the galah said:

well ive previously spoken to an iraqi man at length ,who was still there there during the usa  war.

He moved here about 10 years ago..

i'm confident he knows what hes talking about given thats where he was from and where his family still lives.

other research i've done just confirmed what he has said anyway.So perhaps you need to do more research.

The issues are simple - I suggest you do more research.

[the galah]

16 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

No it isn't what the Israelis said.  That figure is confirmed by many alternative sources including the UN.

Hell why don't you check out Al Jazeera.

https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2026/2/21/iran-demands-evidence-as-trump-un-experts-highlight-protest-killings

the article you quote is interesting ,but i note it talks about the different figures.

iran said  3700,the UN 20,000 and trump 32,000.

either way its terrible but what do you expect to happen when you have a regime like iran does.Everyone knows thats how they react.

Why would trump incite people to do that,knowing the risks of being killed and jailed.

Makes no sense to me other than tfor the USA and israel to use that as a talking point to justify a war.

and thats what they did do,isnt it.

[Chief Stipe]

4 minutes ago, the galah said:

iran said  3700,the UN 20,000 and trump 32,000.

either way its terrible but what do you expect to happen when you have a regime like iran does.Everyone knows thats how they react

Go in and protect the real citizens of Iran and by doing so protect the rest of the world.  If their current leadershiip crowd get nukes they WILL use them - no question.

IF they get nukes they have the power to control the middle east.  

[the galah]

56 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Yes.  But you are exaggerating when you say "economic turmoil".  Which millions have been displaced?  So far the Iranian regime has killed 30 x more of their own population in the last few months than Israel or the USA have.  Predicted food shortages?  Where?  Hasn't happened yet.  Iran is more than an oppresive regime - it is an extremely dangerous regime that has no concept of the value of human life.

Long way to go on that.  If he does then it shoes how lame the western world has become.  The UK is stuffed due to left wing wokeism, France the same and Germany isn't much better.

I suggest you widen your reading sources from both sides rather than focussing on CNN.  If Iran was not building a nuclear weapon why have nearly 500kg of enriched uranium at a level of enrichment that only takes days to enrich to weapons grade?  Why not hand it over and accept the USA offer to provide all the low grade enriched uranium they need to power their nuclear power plants?  Why sneer in the face of the negotiators and say no?  

Once uranium enrichment reaches 60% the next step is relatively quick.  They would have enough weapons grade uranium for at least a dozen Hiroshima bombs probably many many more.  

BS.  The Ayatollah that decreed the killing of 30,000 of his citizens?  More CNN kool aid.

They have been reporting what is happening in Cuba - you have to look harder to find it than the NZ media trashing of the current government and running distractions for the lying left leaders such as Hipkins.

Cuba has been a cot case for decades and a Russian proxy.  Did you know that Cuba is half the distance between Hokitika and Christchurch?  Why would you want a Russian proxy that close to you?

 

exaggerating the economic turmoil. Your kidding i think.

food shortages,of course theres going to be food shortages,There already is.

maybe you haven't seen  the reporting of the impacts already,but moreso on the future impacts. Things like the cost of fertiliser impacting poor african nations,etc.

as an aside,how come fresh tomatoes were only about 1/4 of the price in gaza before the war,compared to here. Now they are close to the same price.,but tinned tomatoes the way to go if buying them here. So much of nz food so expensive when compared to what it costs elsewhere..

Yeah,migration from all the displaced people has helped stuff the countries you mentioned. the likes of close to 1 million syrians who fled war torn syria,to  germany.

don't agree on your iran nuclear assessment. Your saying,iran was making a bomb,knowing that by doing so the usa would bomb the heck out of them. That makes no sense. Thats why the israelis went from talking about a nuclear bomb to instead talking about uraniam enrichment. 2 different things. 

besides how does it go from all irans enriched uranium being buried deep under rubble,which no one disputes ,to having the capacity to build a bomb within a few days like trump has been claiming recently.

again just makes no sense what trump says.

as to cuba,you seem to be justifying creating misery and despair in cuba by saying the usa don't like whos in power so they can do what they want. How is that fair.yes i know cuba only about 100 miles from parts of florida.

i agree with what you say about the current nz media approach.

i watch a bit of every news channell.cnn the best usa channell for the current war but not even they are really telling it as it is. only al jazeera is taking a global view.cnn really only interested in how it effects the usa. Fox just terrible propoganda these days.in war time they are so pro israel its not funny.

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[the galah]

23 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said:

Go in and protect the real citizens of Iran and by doing so protect the rest of the world.  If their current leadershiip crowd get nukes they WILL use them - no question.

IF they get nukes they have the power to control the middle east.  

israel are supposed to have nukes. They don't control the middle east..

besides,why do you think iran would nuke israel ,when if they did ,they would have to deal with the effects of the nuclear fallout.

the whole nuke thing is exaggerated as you would have to believe any country,knowing their adversaries have a nuke and would retaliate,would still use it anyway.

it makes no sense.

Edited March 22 by the galah

[Chief Stipe]

28 minutes ago, the galah said:

israel are supposed to have nukes. They don't control the middle east..

besides,why do you think iran would nuke israel ,when if they did ,they would have to deal with the effects of the nuclear fallout.

the whole nuke thing is exaggerated as you would have to believe any country,knowing their adversaries have a nuke and would retaliate,would still use it anyway.

it makes no sense.

Religious fundamentalism makes no sense.  End of story.

[Newmarket]

3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said:

I suggest you stick to commenting on Harness Racing.  Your understanding of Geo-politics is far less.

Thats no surprise you see Trumps actions positive. 

[Newmarket]

But hang on… US are now backing away from initially stating Iran was ready to use nuclear force, there is no proof and even those involved at top level are stating that, top guy just left. 
Everything Trump has stated is utter bullshit, he is a dangerous buffoon. 
Even if Trump ends war tomorrow the damage has been done, other countries will continue to be engaged in this conflict, Trump will grab a club on his golf course…. while the rest of the world help those affected. 
Trump was a weak pussy with Putin, let him continue with Ukraine, which is still going after years. 
Funny how there is a problem with nuclear in Iran, but USA, Russia & China have their own, proven they are just as dangerous and volatile. 

[Chief Stipe]

@the galah and @Newmarket with the attack on the base at Diego Garcia Iran has proven they have ICBM capability.  Add a nuclear warhead to that scenario and even Russia and China will be worried.

Iran is causing the economic issues and has zero concern for its neighbours nor for that matter the majority of its citizens.  All they have to do is handover the uranium, disarm and free their own citizens.  What is wrong with any of those outcomes?

[Shab]

3 hours ago, the galah said:

but tinned tomatoes the way to go if buying them here

What kinda tomato sandwich are ya gunna get using tinned tomatoes?

Tinned tomatoes from the other side of the world are cheap as but tomatoes grown down the road cost a fortune. What a silly world we live in.

[Gammalite]

Chances of any nation letting off a nuclear devise are quite remote. The horror of Horoshima and Nagasaki 80 years ago was enough to put all nations off dealing with that sort of thing ever again.

more of a worry for the near future for Oz and NZ esp,  is this area in picture below. 1000 ships are backlogged and unable to get past this month. A few sneak through each day (4% of usual traffic) Iran has set ablaze 2 Big tankers already so they're all a bit scared. the strait of Hormuz is holding the world to ransom really.  nearly a quarter of the worlds oil goes through there usually from oil rich Kuwait and Qatar exports.

Trump is getting stuck into the Aussie Prime Minister currently,  for not sending troops to get the strait operational again ? wtf? we have nothing. Trump has 11 American Nuclear powered aircraft carriers in operation. they just bombed the shit out of the Iran nuclear facility late last year . Can't they go patrol the area ??  and escort ships through ???

 

 

 

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[Chief Stipe]

 

8 hours ago, Gammalite said:

Chances of any nation letting off a nuclear devise are quite remote. The horror of Horoshima and Nagasaki 80 years ago was enough to put all nations off dealing with that sort of thing ever again.

It isn't remote with these religious fanatics.  Who would have thought they would:

• fly planes into buildings in the USA and kill thousands;
• kill 1,400 people at a music festival in Israel and then torture and rape hostages;
• kill 15 people at Bondi Beach amd injure hundreds;
• kill 10's of thousands of their own citizens who want the oppression to end 

All in the name of Allah.

You think they believe that having a nuclear weapon is deterrance?  They are mad religious fanaticals who believe the afterlife is better than any mortal life.