mardigras Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 2 hours ago, barryb said: One way to make it more palatable is to adopt the same as Australia and make any assets acquired before CGT is introduced exempt. Any asset acquired before 20 September 1985, known as a pre-CGT asset. But an asset loses its pre-CGT status if substantial changes are made to it (e.g. major additions to a building), or on the death of the original owner. I didn't know they made them exempt. I thought they assessed the value as at the date of the implementation, not a retrospective value. I've certainly paid CGT whilst living there and the assessed value was on the value at the point in time of arriving in Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: Don't you think they tax us all enough now as it is? Us all? Not those that get tax free income. No. On the likes of your typical paye person, Yes. That is the problem. paye rates will be higher because of tax avoidance, and currently non taxed investments. Why have income tax? Might as well abolish it and make everything a user pays tax. Increase GST to 45%. Will that help? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 14 hours ago, Reefton said: You would hardly call Woo-hoo accountants but as for the user friendly tax system that is a crock of shiite. Nothing but nothing is user friendly about tax and when you are self employed the tax compliance burden is a frigging nightmare. Don't believe the IRD advertising about automatic assessments either. You can guarantee there will be colossal cockups cos with government departments there always are. No person on wages need to pay any tosser accountants to do their returns, it is simple. As for wahoo and the likes, IRD should have stopped these companies from fleecing workers, mind you accountants do the same. As i have stated, accountants are a dying breed, useless pricks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 CGT will not be in! No way that they will get back into government if one is brought in on property, shares, KiwiSaver etc. Affects everyone who works and anyone with half a brain can work out that this socialist bunch are an absolute nightmare that has no idea of being able to run a country. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 4 hours ago, Newmarket said: No person on wages need to pay any tosser accountants to do their returns, it is simple. As for wahoo and the likes, IRD should have stopped these companies from fleecing workers, mind you accountants do the same. As i have stated, accountants are a dying breed, useless pricks You'd know. You seem to know everything 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Mirror Mirror on the wall....how good am I ? Well taxi, here's a starter list of the people youv'e pissed off to date... Billions of Chinese are offended by your casual dismissal of them....which will rebound on you Thousands of people involved in oil and gas exploration, you've cost this industry a conservative $30 billion in the next 5 years Thousands of people who rent and who believed your inept housing expert that 'kiwibuild' would be their saviour..a huge Lemon since they couldn't afford the repayments Thousands of people in the racing industry who swallowed the bullshit from your racing minister...again About 195,000 lifestyle block owners in NZ who now realise the implications of your rancid and bitter mate Cullens tax proposals anyone growing a crop which needs harvesting..you've stopped any immigration of people prepared to work Dairy farmers who resent being told how to be farmers by totally ignorant people from your coalition mates the greens A large number of parents-a silent majority for now-who are genuinely afraid of the implications of your indifference to the effects of decriminalising harmful and brain damaging substances The next of kin of those lost in needless road crashes and your inept ministers' comments that she can't see any improvements in the next 10 years...for fucks sake! And the list is growing...keep it up taxi, you'll self destruct. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 Its totally staggering isn't it Kopia, & shes rising in the polls. Gives you zero hope for the intelligence of NZers that around 45% of us would be voting for that shit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 23, 2019 Share Posted February 23, 2019 58 minutes ago, barryb said: Its totally staggering isn't it Kopia, & shes rising in the polls. Gives you zero hope for the intelligence of NZers that around 45% of us would be voting for that shit. Just goes to show you what they think of that National leader. Would be helpful if he could string a sentance clearly together, he is a moron, jacinda will be pissing herself. National made so much money from the chch earthquakes, booming auckland market that they could not go wrong. Brownlee lied so much to chch people, so many were told to leave red zone and take up government offer, as no services would be available, bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Newmarket said: Just goes to show you what they think of that National leader. Would be helpful if he could string a sentance clearly together, he is a moron, jacinda will be pissing herself. Unfortunately thats all she has done (piss herself), she has sat back and let a multitude of groups do the job she and labour should have done for 9 yrs prior mate. They have proven the most ill prepared Govt in NZ's history. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 53 minutes ago, barryb said: Unfortunately thats all she has done (piss herself), she has sat back and let a multitude of groups do the job she and labour should have done for 9 yrs prior mate. They have proven the most ill prepared Govt in NZ's history. This may surprise you, but i am not a real labour supporter. But before we discuss what labour is doing wrong, can anyone tell me what the best, say 5 things that National did in the previous 9 years. Hope the flag does not feature? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, barryb said: Unfortunately thats all she has done (piss herself), she has sat back and let a multitude of groups do the job she and labour should have done for 9 yrs prior mate. They have proven the most ill prepared Govt in NZ's history. Don’t believe that this government is ill prepared at all! They are just blatantly incompetent but it is not their fault, they just have not got any idea on how to run a successful business as none of them ever have! Yes they will self destruct and I donot beleive that there could be possibly be that many that will see her as a success by the end of the year! MMP system is a total croc when 3 loser parties can amalgamate to form a government. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Newmarket said: This may surprise you, but i am not a real labour supporter. But before we discuss what labour is doing wrong, can anyone tell me what the best, say 5 things that National did in the previous 9 years. Hope the flag does not feature? Newmarket, they ran the country successfully and NZ was the envy of most countries in the world, then clowns voted this mish mash of nillers in thru MMP! They have done absolutely nothing to increase productivity except give money away for people to have more kids, even if they can not afford them. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 9 minutes ago, Brodie said: Newmarket, they ran the country successfully and NZ was the envy of most countries in the world, then clowns voted this mish mash of nillers in thru MMP! They have done absolutely nothing to increase productivity except give money away for people to have more kids, even if they can not afford them. Whats the total now...? How much did taxi give away in the Pacific Islands when she floated around like a fairy godmother handing out cash? Whats Shanes Jones' total so far, how many hundreds of millions has he given away with no expectation or requirement to show where it is spent....got to total billions handed out and who do you think earned that money for NZ so jones and taxi scould squander it? John Key, thats who-the most successul Prime Minister this country has ever had. You are right Brodie, they have not increased productivity one iota, thats why the tax grab is the only option open to them. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Newmarket, they ran the country successfully and NZ was the envy of most countries in the world, then clowns voted this mish mash of nillers in thru MMP! They have done absolutely nothing to increase productivity except give money away for people to have more kids, even if they can not afford them. I agree that labours benefit system needs a bloody good look at, that is a disgrace. But as far as wages go, national did nothing in those 9yrs, upping the min wage by 50c per hour every now and then was a joke, to have so many health workers that had not had a pay rise for years was a joke. Teachers, Police etc as well, most that you depend on struggling to get extra dollars. At least those in charge now said no to pay rise, not like nats that pushed for as much as they could. For National to return to power, get rid of the leader, and the other old farts, because like it or not, jacinda is very well liked, all around the world. John Key was popular too, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 48 minutes ago, Newmarket said: I agree that labours benefit system needs a bloody good look at, that is a disgrace. But as far as wages go, national did nothing in those 9yrs, upping the min wage by 50c per hour every now and then was a joke, to have so many health workers that had not had a pay rise for years was a joke. Teachers, Police etc as well, most that you depend on struggling to get extra dollars. At least those in charge now said no to pay rise, not like nats that pushed for as much as they could. For National to return to power, get rid of the leader, and the other old farts, because like it or not, jacinda is very well liked, all around the world. John Key was popular too, Newmarket, understand that people do need to be able to afford to buy things if they are working. Problem is that by raising the lower hourly rate, becomes a problem when the people who are on more than the minimum also want a pay rise as they think they are worth more than the minimum ones. This in turn forces prices up and makes many business’s not profitable, therefore many will fold, therefore more unemployed!!! Yes Jacinda is young and smiles like a laughing hyena, but that only goes so far and things will change as to the governments popularity as nothing they have campaigned on happens! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 14 minutes ago, Brodie said: Newmarket, understand that people do need to be able to afford to buy things if they are working. Problem is that by raising the lower hourly rate, becomes a problem when the people who are on more than the minimum also want a pay rise as they think they are worth more than the minimum ones. This in turn forces prices up and makes many business’s not profitable, therefore many will fold, therefore more unemployed!!! Yes Jacinda is young and smiles like a laughing hyena, but that only goes so far and things will change as to the governments popularity as nothing they have campaigned on happens! So, are you sitting on the fence again? So its ok for those on high incomes getting huge pay rises, but those lower or middle workers pay cant even keep up with inflation? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted February 24, 2019 Share Posted February 24, 2019 2 hours ago, Newmarket said: So, are you sitting on the fence again? So its ok for those on high incomes getting huge pay rises, but those lower or middle workers pay cant even keep up with inflation? Not sure where you get that I am sitting on the fence? What I am saying ismthat by raising hourly rates it is just not the lowest paid that will get a pay rise. I wouldn’t like to be an employer of a small business that needs to employ staff as their wages bill is going to increase substantially. The reality is that many business owners actually make a lot less than their employees do! Why would you bother owning a business when you can earn more being an employee and not have the hassles? Now this so-called government want to take even more off the business by way of CGT!!! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 On 24/02/2019 at 2:11 PM, barryb said: Unfortunately thats all she has done (piss herself), she has sat back and let a multitude of groups do the job she and labour should have done for 9 yrs prior mate. They have proven the most ill prepared Govt in NZ's history. Close this sheet thread down will you chief Its been wildly corrupted...into something resembling a f in rabble The Righteous Right have never been able to empathise with their partners gout let alone the poor f'ers sleeping rough... so good riddance Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 9 hours ago, Thomass said: Close this sheet thread down will you chief Its been wildly corrupted...into something resembling a f in rabble The Righteous Right have never been able to empathise with their partners gout let alone the poor f'ers sleeping rough... so good riddance Tommo, I listened to an interview with taxi early this week...couldn't believe how weak and spineless she sounded when asked about cullens suggestions...and I nearly pissed myself laughing when she was asked about her business experience.....'well I did work in a fish and chip shop you know'.....jeeze! Nothing against fish and chip shops but that comment says mountains about this bunch of useless tossers calling thenselves a government... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 My advice is to put a Nappy on and suck on a pacifier koppa...like Bogan Bazz wears..and suks The screamers of the Righteous Right Born to Rulers...are like a bunch of kids who got their candy stolen... ...and unbelievably still can't get their heads around MMP...WTF?? The two Poll results are telling koppa.... This country....the younguns mostly...are TOTES in love with Cindy and what her worker bees are doing... ...and think Slimon Simple Simon..is a Twat Its that simple... ...but the stupid Knats...full of tired old political broilers like Crusher and Brownlee... Keep on keeping on with their political suicide pact.. ....bewdaful...love it Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 29 minutes ago, Thomass said: My advice is to put a Nappy on and suck on a pacifier koppa...like Bogan Bazz wears..and suks The screamers of the Righteous Right Born to Rulers...are like a bunch of kids who got their candy stolen... ...and unbelievably still can't get their heads around MMP...WTF?? The two Poll results are telling koppa.... This country....the younguns mostly...are TOTES in love with Cindy and what her worker bees are doing... ...and think Slimon Simple Simon..is a Twat Its that simple... ...but the stupid Knats...full of tired old political broilers like Crusher and Brownlee... Keep on keeping on with their political suicide pact.. ....bewdaful...love it So Thomaas have you been a wage earner all your life? Or are you living off the Capital Gains and "wise" investments of your family? We know you cant be living off your punting. How many Socialists will be at Cheltenham? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted February 26, 2019 Share Posted February 26, 2019 Moi's 'investment' involved producing a sheeet load of illegitimate Bairns all over the place...and they'll look after moi when I'm decrepit and slozzed But getting back on track... The concept that were 'special' and it's the 'Kiwi' way of doing things...and f the rest of the World...is morally bankrupt But we know the Righteous Born to Rule Right... do that sooooo well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 4 hours ago, Thomass said: ...and they'll look after moi when I'm decrepit and slozzed you're decrepit and slozzed now. these kids better get round there fast 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pete Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 On 24/02/2019 at 12:56 PM, Newmarket said: Just goes to show you what they think of that National leader. Would be helpful if he could string a sentance clearly together, he is a moron, jacinda will be pissing herself. National made so much money from the chch earthquakes, booming auckland market that they could not go wrong. Brownlee lied so much to chch people, so many were told to leave red zone and take up government offer, as no services would be available, bullshit. Oh and think the PM is particularly articulate do you? This is a transcript of HRH talking to Hosking yesterday. Tell me how this woman got a communications degree. Jacinda Yeah, from memory I think it’s like down… from memory in the report it covers off… what if you just did rentals, what if you did… you know… shares… what if you did business and um… what if you did, you know, business buildings, so it’s because of the suite of options and ultimately it’s up to government to choose… um… if anywhere where they go amongst that suite. And of course, keeping in mind, Mike, there’s also the offset. We asked them to say, okay if we collected in any revenue… um… what’s a way that we can distribute it back out to New Zealanders and they’ve given options there as well. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted February 27, 2019 Share Posted February 27, 2019 3 hours ago, pete said: Oh and think the PM is particularly articulate do you? This is a transcript of HRH talking to Hosking yesterday. Tell me how this woman got a communications degree. Jacinda Yeah, from memory I think it’s like down… from memory in the report it covers off… what if you just did rentals, what if you did… you know… shares… what if you did business and um… what if you did, you know, business buildings, so it’s because of the suite of options and ultimately it’s up to government to choose… um… if anywhere where they go amongst that suite. And of course, keeping in mind, Mike, there’s also the offset. We asked them to say, okay if we collected in any revenue… um… what’s a way that we can distribute it back out to New Zealanders and they’ve given options there as well. she's not Thomass' sister is she? They seem to talk in a similar way 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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