Happy Sunrise Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Race 1 Cabella Noir at 5FF and 2FF This is a weak field and her form has been very good. Back to the grass, which in her 2 starts on it, seems to be her preferred surface. 4 starts back finished just over a length from Majestic Chevron and next to horses like Appearance, Sun Swinger and Sierra Gold. Then at Rangiora, she nearly stole the race until Tequila Sunset nabbed her but she finished lengths in front of Appearance, Sierra Gold, Flying Monkey and Helga's Monarch. Didn't race on Friday so should be good to go. Stacks up for me. I'm all over it like an All Stars $1.01 shot. Free shot at the winning price with the 2 dollar place divvy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDWHITEMAN Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 7 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Race 1 Cabella Noir at 5FF and 2FF This is a weak field and her form has been very good. Back to the grass, which in her 2 starts on it, seems to be her preferred surface. 4 starts back finished just over a length from Majestic Chevron and next to horses like Appearance, Sun Swinger and Sierra Gold. Then at Rangiora, she nearly stole the race until Tequila Sunset nabbed her but she finished lengths in front of Appearance, Sierra Gold, Flying Monkey and Helga's Monarch. Didn't race on Friday so should be good to go. Stacks up for me. I'm all over it like an All Stars $1.01 shot. Free shot at the winning price with the 2 dollar place divvy. You not backing Gotta Ticket? ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 minute ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: You not backing Gotta Ticket? ? Leaving that for you. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 megatrend went good 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Punch Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 1 hour ago, Happy Sunrise said: Race 1 Cabella Noir at 5FF and 2FF This is a weak field and her form has been very good. Back to the grass, which in her 2 starts on it, seems to be her preferred surface. 4 starts back finished just over a length from Majestic Chevron and next to horses like Appearance, Sun Swinger and Sierra Gold. Then at Rangiora, she nearly stole the race until Tequila Sunset nabbed her but she finished lengths in front of Appearance, Sierra Gold, Flying Monkey and Helga's Monarch. Didn't race on Friday so should be good to go. Stacks up for me. I'm all over it like an All Stars $1.01 shot. Free shot at the winning price with the 2 dollar place divvy. Like it. Like it a lot. I'm going to have a wee each way wager on a couple of roughies who were held up at the wrong times on Friday. Melt Down is one. Olivia Thornley's drive to get it into the trail from the second line was outstanding then the leader stopped on it round the bend. The other is Bright Glow. Hit the line really strongly on Friday and just needs a bit of luck to finish top three tomorrow for mine. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 Like a few ruff ones, muscle pat, sonic reign mogul, predicting a long day on the punt for me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 I think the TAB Form analyst has got the wrong horse as it didn't start on Friday and to call it a grinding type in this field is just wrong. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 41 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: I think the TAB Form analyst has got the wrong horse as it didn't start on Friday and to call it a grinding type in this field is just wrong. Used to be an old grinding type myself, now I would rather have a cup of tea, after all it lasts longer. Just put my rough multi on, the returns look super, but the chances are slim. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 9, 2019 Author Share Posted March 9, 2019 4 minutes ago, Shad said: Used to be an old grinding type myself, now I would rather have a cup of tea, after all it lasts longer. Just put my rough multi on, the returns look super, but the chances are slim. The tea plantation may well be yours after tomorrow if it comes in. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Harewood Posted March 9, 2019 Share Posted March 9, 2019 47 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: I think the TAB Form analyst has got the wrong horse as it didn't start on Friday and to call it a grinding type in this field is just wrong. Correct it last started at Cheviot meeting at Adders a week earlier on 3rd March. The TAB form has the correct date and race so who ever does the write up is way off the mark. He carnt have watched the race because it wasnt there so must have just presumed it started and has made a story up. And punters not as astute as us (haha) are expected to read his write ups and bet on them. Bit of joke really. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 23 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: Race 1 Cabella Noir at 5FF and 2FF This is a weak field and her form has been very good. Back to the grass, which in her 2 starts on it, seems to be her preferred surface. 4 starts back finished just over a length from Majestic Chevron and next to horses like Appearance, Sun Swinger and Sierra Gold. Then at Rangiora, she nearly stole the race until Tequila Sunset nabbed her but she finished lengths in front of Appearance, Sierra Gold, Flying Monkey and Helga's Monarch. Didn't race on Friday so should be good to go. Stacks up for me. I'm all over it like an All Stars $1.01 shot. Free shot at the winning price with the 2 dollar place divvy. $2.30 place on the tote, nice happy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted March 10, 2019 Author Share Posted March 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: $2.30 place on the tote, nice happy Thought it might have gone better. Soundly beaten but I got my money back so no damage done. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 14 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Thought it might have gone better. Soundly beaten but I got my money back so no damage done. It's worth ago if you're convinced you'll at least get your $$back. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 Lucky to get a few collects today, none of which I mentioned last night, nadira franco liked that 27s my reasoning was drawn on the fence and may get a soft run, and sods law got me out in the last, otherwise I would have had a shocker. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 10 minutes ago, Shad said: Lucky to get a few collects today, none of which I mentioned last night, nadira franco liked that 27s my reasoning was drawn on the fence and may get a soft run, and sods law got me out in the last, otherwise I would have had a shocker. Nice shad 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 19 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Nice shad See the junior that drove nadira franco got a 200 fine for whip over use, miserable buggers, don't think she has ever driven winner yet, from limited opportunities, stipes just to tough, thought sonic reign was a place show until the driver took him off the rails and locked wheels and checked a few others, she is out till end of the month. He was paying big money and had a trail the trip, never mind a good days racing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 1 minute ago, Shad said: See the junior that drove nadira franco got a 200 fine for whip over use, miserable buggers, don't think she has ever driven winner yet, from limited opportunities, stipes just to tough, thought sonic reign was a place show until the driver took him off the rails and locked wheels and checked a few others, she is out till end of the month. He was paying big money and had a trail the trip, never mind a good days racing. Geez they love to sting the amateurs and juniors! Love those west coast trots, big fields even racing and so much value!? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 6 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: Geez they love to sting the amateurs and juniors! Love those west coast trots, big fields even racing and so much value!? Agree on all counts, what's the point of fining these mostly part time drivers who get limited chances, why not a warning. Great grass track racing, and always a roughie or two if you can find them, and old friend always backed the 1 draw, always maintained if they could get a trail, no matter what their form read, with a good run would get the passing lane .He has had some big divs over the years. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kidd Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 My best for the day was Ford Rule so was pleased with that result. Impressed with the driving ability and style of Sarah O'Reilly who's trade mark seems to be flashing home late down the outside of the track which she did in the first on Ideal Invasion. Most puzzling result of the day for me was Ohoka Matty on race 5. I've backed this horse until I started looking like it. I thought it was just a runners chance yesterday. Started wondering WTF was going on when a tidal wave of money came for it. Straight to the front, dominated them and ran the field into the ground. Where has that version of Ohoka Matty been when Blair Orange has driven it from the front only to be easily run over? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 55 minutes ago, Joe Kidd said: My best for the day was Ford Rule so was pleased with that result. Impressed with the driving ability and style of Sarah O'Reilly who's trade mark seems to be flashing home late down the outside of the track which she did in the first on Ideal Invasion. Most puzzling result of the day for me was Ohoka Matty on race 5. I've backed this horse until I started looking like it. I thought it was just a runners chance yesterday. Started wondering WTF was going on when a tidal wave of money came for it. Straight to the front, dominated them and ran the field into the ground. Where has that version of Ohoka Matty been when Blair Orange has driven it from the front only to be easily run over? Ohoka Matty always appeared a bit weak to me as well. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 10, 2019 Share Posted March 10, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Shad said: See the junior that drove nadira franco got a 200 fine for whip over use, miserable buggers, don't think she has ever driven winner yet, from limited opportunities, stipes just to tough, thought sonic reign was a place show until the driver took him off the rails and locked wheels and checked a few others, she is out till end of the month. He was paying big money and had a trail the trip, never mind a good days racing. Shad, you are dead right! The stupid whip rule once again! Young Hayley Clarke, was having her 88th drive on a horse over several seasons, and on a pretty average horse! She runs 3rd after giving it an easy run on the pegs! She would be over the moon to have finally run a place in a race, but the Stipes following the blatantly stupid rule fines her $200 for not excessive use of the whip but USING THE WHIP MORE THAN PERMITED!!! HRNZ grow some balls and alter the rule back to what is was before! SAFE dint have a problem with the previous rule, until you panicked and thought that you would semi follow the Ozzie’s and they backtracked and now they can hammer as much as they like! Most of us know that it is STUPID so alter it back and fine drivers that do go overboard and carve up horses with the whip, and not you g girls having their 88th drive without previously running a place. Surefire way of losing young people to the industry by hammering them financially for wanting to win! Edited March 10, 2019 by Brodie 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 8 hours ago, Joe Kidd said: best for the day was Ford Rule so was pleased with that result. Impressed with the driving ability and style of Sarah O'Reilly who's trade mark seems to be flashing home late down the outside of the track which she did in the first on Ideal Invasion. Most puzzling result of the day for me was Ohoka Matty on race 5. I've backed this horse until I started looking like it. I thought it was just a runners chance yesterday. Started wondering WTF was going on when a tidal wave of money came for it. Straight to the front, dominated them and ran the field into the ground. Where has that version of Ohoka Matty been when Blair Orange has driven it from the front only to be easily run over? I do my own ratings and had ohoka matty clearly on top based on recent performances.Easy to say in hindsight but his form had been in stronger fields and the horse has continued to improve since Christmas. I think J alford driving him actually helped his price. You mention ford rule.Good result there for you. I think having the best female driver on helped a lot,especially when the likes of cheezel and the kaik got into a lot of strife. Edited March 11, 2019 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kidd Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 39 minutes ago, the galah said: I do my own ratings and had ohoka matty clearly on top based on recent performances.Easy to say in hindsight but his form had been in stronger fields and the horse has continued to improve since Christmas. I think J alford driving him actually helped his price. You mention ford rule.Good result there for you. I think having the best female driver on helped a lot,especially when the likes of cheezel and the kaik got into a lot of strife. Interesting. If your own ratings had Ohoka Matty clearly on top then they are working for you. It's often not easy to determine what stronger fields are when they are all non winners. I've backed O.M several times in what I considered fairly ordinary races only to see him beaten again despite Blair Orange rating it perfectly. I don't think Tabitha Franco is a very strong mare. It took 16 races to finally win a race. She did so from the 12 draw beating Ohoka Matty who had drawn 3. I've seen O.M beaten too many times after having every chance for Blair driving which is why I wasn't optimistic yesterday. Don't know a lot about J Alford but the rodeo act put on with both attempts at starting on Friday with her in the bike didn't exactly inspire confidence. What surprised me was the money that came for it and the dominance of the victory. Basically ran the Opposition into the ground and still plenty left at the finish. I hadn't seen any signs of that type of victory with the horse previously. You're correct on Ford Rule's driver. Put her on either of the other two and we would have had a different winner. Some drivers seem to try hard to drive pretty and they end up finding trouble at the time they should be being put into the race and then it's all she wrote. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 7 hours ago, Brodie said: Shad, you are dead right! The stupid whip rule once again! Young Hayley Clarke, was having her 88th drive on a horse over several seasons, and on a pretty average horse! She runs 3rd after giving it an easy run on the pegs! She would be over the moon to have finally run a place in a race, but the Stipes following the blatantly stupid rule fines her $200 for not excessive use of the whip but USING THE WHIP MORE THAN PERMITED!!! HRNZ grow some balls and alter the rule back to what is was before! SAFE dint have a problem with the previous rule, until you panicked and thought that you would semi follow the Ozzie’s and they backtracked and now they can hammer as much as they like! Most of us know that it is STUPID so alter it back and fine drivers that do go overboard and carve up horses with the whip, and not you g girls having their 88th drive without previously running a place. Surefire way of losing young people to the industry by hammering them financially for wanting to win! Well said, and I agree totally, why didn't they suspend her instead, 200 pingers is alot to a young girl trying her best, they need to be encouraged, and without her and kendra gill they may not have had the numbers for the teal race, these two girls drive for their families, and don't get the opportunities some others do, stipes for God sake show some leniency for these partimers, would love to see them both pick up a win along the way, not totally sure, but I think I backed Mr S Clarkes last winner a few years ago, tinted field, but do stand to be corrected, he may have had one since. Good luck to both girls, their time will come. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted March 11, 2019 Share Posted March 11, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Joe Kidd said: Interesting. If your own ratings had Ohoka Matty clearly on top then they are working for you. It's often not easy to determine what stronger fields are when they are all non winners. I've backed O.M several times in what I considered fairly ordinary races only to see him beaten again despite Blair Orange rating it perfectly. I don't think Tabitha Franco is a very strong mare. It took 16 races to finally win a race. She did so from the 12 draw beating Ohoka Matty who had drawn 3. I've seen O.M beaten too many times after having every chance for Blair driving which is why I wasn't optimistic yesterday. Don't know a lot about J Alford but the rodeo act put on with both attempts at starting on Friday with her in the bike didn't exactly inspire confidence. What surprised me was the money that came for it and the dominance of the victory. Basically ran the Opposition into the ground and still plenty left at the finish. I hadn't seen any signs of that type of victory with the horse previously. You're correct on Ford Rule's driver. Put her on either of the other two and we would have had a different winner. Some drivers seem to try hard to drive pretty and they end up finding trouble at the time they should be being put into the race and then it's all she wrote. The ratings seem to work good. Generally accurate, especially in the south island. There are certain things that can catch you. For example any horse having its first start for Michael House always overperforms. And blair orange seems unique in that he can consistently improve performance. Cambridge form can be a glitch. A handful of stables going average in the smaller stakes then improving markedly in bigger stakes at Auckland or penalty free races is a pattern. Yet those same stables are consistent with their horses that race at only Cambridge and manawatu. In my mind team driving in the north island happens a lot,especially if the money is on. Your reference to Tabitha franco I agree with. Its ratings were strong initially but continued to drop to the point I thought it needed a new driver. It definitely over performed last time with a new driver. Maybe that was right or maybe it just had its confidence up from winning the start before. jesse alford is a bloke. Jesse james being his first names. I agree with your comments about some drivers driving their horses too pretty. That's the factor that can't be determined pre race. Sometimes it just comes down to confidence,sometimes its just not everyone is good. Take K Tomlinson on cheezel in the race that ford rule won. She seemed to know it would be to her detriment if she dropped in behind the roughie, So she kept it out,then after making it work dropped in behind it anyway. I think horses run for her,but she drives like she has no confidence in her own decision making., Sarah o'reilly was like that,but now look at her,she has confidence and her results reflect that. K. Tomlinson will probably turn out as good in another 12 months. Edited March 11, 2019 by the galah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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