Chief Stipe Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Thomaas and Mardigras can you both PM your ratings for the Tancred Stakes Field? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 No need to PM. Happy to put my current odds up. You won't get anything from Thomass because he needs to hear what the winning trainer states post race etc. My market to 100%. I'd certainly not be touching the fav even as the most likely winner. The rest of the field is fairly even. Mardigras TAB 1 AVILIUS $3.40 $1.60 2 MUNTAHAA $16.00 $51.00 3 RED CARDINAL $15.00 $7.00 5 SOUND $32.00 $101.00 6 PATRICK ERIN $20.00 $35.00 7 VENGEUR MASQUE $30.00 $51.00 8 BIG DUKE $12.00 $12.00 9 VENTURA STORM $21.00 $71.00 10 YOGI $15.00 $18.00 12 BRIMHAM ROCKS $15.00 $31.00 13 ACE HIGH $13.00 $35.00 14 RONDINELLA $40.00 $15.00 15 NETTOYER $16.00 $31.00 16 DOUKHAN $28.00 $61.00 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Good work Mardi, TArse has NFI so we won’t see anything from him, but I would be confident he will have the winner after the race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theshu Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 He will let us all know on monday am . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 I really like Patrick Erin 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 1 hour ago, mardigras said: No need to PM. Happy to put my current odds up. You won't get anything from Thomass because he needs to hear what the winning trainer states post race etc. My market to 100%. I'd certainly not be touching the fav even as the most likely winner. The rest of the field is fairly even. Mardigras TAB 1 AVILIUS $3.40 $1.60 2 MUNTAHAA $16.00 $51.00 3 RED CARDINAL $15.00 $7.00 5 SOUND $32.00 $101.00 6 PATRICK ERIN $20.00 $35.00 7 VENGEUR MASQUE $30.00 $51.00 8 BIG DUKE $12.00 $12.00 9 VENTURA STORM $21.00 $71.00 10 YOGI $15.00 $18.00 12 BRIMHAM ROCKS $15.00 $31.00 13 ACE HIGH $13.00 $35.00 14 RONDINELLA $40.00 $15.00 15 NETTOYER $16.00 $31.00 16 DOUKHAN $28.00 $61.00 Interesting you have ace high at $13 mardigras, it gives me some hope, I thought it a great place chance. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 11 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: Interesting you have ace high at $13 mardigras, it gives me some hope, I thought it a great place chance. Based on his record, he wouldn't want it to get wetter. Him and Muntahaa are the two I'm favouring most at this point. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 10 minutes ago, mardigras said: Based on his record, he wouldn't want it to get wetter. Him and Muntahaa are the two I'm favouring most at this point. Muntahaa, great 2nd up record, not sure what the Sydney weather is doing tomorrow, as you elude to both need the track a bit dryer.... well done for putting your bollocks on the chopping block and putting a market up Mardi, Good stuff! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Looks like heavy rain in the early hours and morning. I'm going to stick with the Duke - he's been running on in the softer going and has good course/distance stats. He won't mind if it gets wetter. Followed him to this point so not keen to drop him now He and Avdulla seem to get on well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Have any got blinkers on for the first time and dropping back in class? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 5 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Have any got blinkers on for the first time and dropping back in class? No, but Patrick Erin has Winkers again. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 Track a Heavy 10 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 Just usual weather in Sydney this time of year. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 29, 2019 Author Share Posted March 29, 2019 2 minutes ago, mardigras said: Just usual weather in Sydney this time of year. Well Muntahaa has no wet track form. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Well Muntahaa has no wet track form. As mentioned, I wasn't wanting a wetter track. At the current level, I wouldn't bet on the race, although with Muntahaa, I wouldn't say the track is a problem, just an unknown. Edited March 29, 2019 by mardigras 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porky Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 on wet track and course stats looks like Avilius, Red cardinal and Big Duke 3 horse war as the market suggests... James Mac adds to the Favs resolve...double ya money to be up out of your seat and on the verge of a heart attack, watching Red Cardinal sail home for a place (could even steal it)...well that's my 2 cents worth ...for whats its worth ! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, porky said: on wet track and course stats looks like Avilius, Red cardinal and Big Duke 3 horse war as the market suggests... James Mac adds to the Favs resolve...double ya money to be up out of your seat and on the verge of a heart attack, watching Red Cardinal sail home for a place (could even steal it)...well that's my 2 cents worth ...for whats its worth ! The complete opposite to Mardi, he has it as a terrible unders runner. Like Mardi, I have it at $13.00, poor value. I have Avilus at $3.40 again poor value, opposite to Mardi as I have Rondinella at $8.00 great overs for me. 16 Doukan is great overs, I have it at $16.00, Yogi also great value as I have it rated $9.00 Edited March 29, 2019 by barryb 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 38 minutes ago, barryb said: The complete opposite to Mardi, he has it as a terrible unders runner. Like Mardi, I have it at $13.00, poor value. I have Avilus at $3.40 again poor value, opposite to Mardi as I have Rondinella at $8.00 great overs for me. 16 Doukan is great overs, I have it at $16.00, Yogi also great value as I have it rated $9.00 Good one barry. I'd say I can often underestimate the level of horse from NZ in Oz, so for a horse like Rondinella, the level I have assessed it at in NZ is lower than the runners it is against today - hence why I have it at the longest odds. But that's what makes racing so good - differing views and assessments. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, mardigras said: Good one barry. I'd say I can often underestimate the level of horse from NZ in Oz, so for a horse like Rondinella, the level I have assessed it at in NZ is lower than the runners it is against today - hence why I have it at the longest odds. But that's what makes racing so good - differing views and assessments. Yep for sure, even selections after the days racing have a place, although that place is fairy land. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mardigras Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 12 minutes ago, barryb said: Yep for sure, even selections after the days racing have a place, although that place is fairy land. I think that's called the results page. Most people can read that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
porky Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 25 minutes ago, mardigras said: Good one barry. I'd say I can often underestimate the level of horse from NZ in Oz, so for a horse like Rondinella, the level I have assessed it at in NZ is lower than the runners it is against today - hence why I have it at the longest odds. But that's what makes racing so good - differing views and assessments. dont get me wrong Baz...I would love Rondinella to do it. Any Kiwi win is special..;mate we had some hair-raising Brisbane Carnivals when Roughy was "stickin it up em" //www.youtube.com/watch?v=lFhfmgddFVk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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mardigras Posted March 29, 2019 Share Posted March 29, 2019 My update. Mardigras open TAB open Mardigras upd TAB upd 1 AVILIUS $3.40 $1.60 $3.50 $1.60 3 RED CARDINAL $15.00 $7.00 $11.00 $6.00 5 SOUND $32.00 $101.00 $32.00 $101.00 6 PATRICK ERIN $20.00 $35.00 $18.00 $26.00 8 BIG DUKE $12.00 $12.00 $9.00 $10.00 9 VENTURA STORM $21.00 $71.00 $23.00 $61.00 10 YOGI $15.00 $18.00 $13.00 $18.00 12 BRIMHAM ROCKS $15.00 $31.00 $12.00 $26.00 13 ACE HIGH $13.00 $35.00 $12.00 $31.00 14 RONDINELLA $40.00 $15.00 $34.00 $14.00 15 NETTOYER $16.00 $31.00 $15.00 $26.00 16 DOUKHAN $28.00 $61.00 $22.00 $51.00 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chestnut Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 Rondinella is gutsy that's for sure, loved the run. Of course I think the Duke had her measure but I would say that. I'd love her as a broodmare. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted March 30, 2019 Share Posted March 30, 2019 20 hours ago, mardigras said: My update. Mardigras open TAB open Mardigras upd TAB upd 1 AVILIUS $3.40 $1.60 $3.50 $1.60 3 RED CARDINAL $15.00 $7.00 $11.00 $6.00 5 SOUND $32.00 $101.00 $32.00 $101.00 6 PATRICK ERIN $20.00 $35.00 $18.00 $26.00 8 BIG DUKE $12.00 $12.00 $9.00 $10.00 9 VENTURA STORM $21.00 $71.00 $23.00 $61.00 10 YOGI $15.00 $18.00 $13.00 $18.00 12 BRIMHAM ROCKS $15.00 $31.00 $12.00 $26.00 13 ACE HIGH $13.00 $35.00 $12.00 $31.00 14 RONDINELLA $40.00 $15.00 $34.00 $14.00 15 NETTOYER $16.00 $31.00 $15.00 $26.00 16 DOUKHAN $28.00 $61.00 $22.00 $51.00 So 9 neddys rated at value...you back all 9 or is it still only top 4 you indulge? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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