Happy Sunrise Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 So the horse, described by Mick Guerin as a 'superstar' in his NZ Herald article is gone for the year. Well, just give him some ACS and he will be back for the Cup with a Lazarus like recovery. If Turn It Up is a superstar it just shows how sad the game is when a horse who has no public interest behind it is being described this way. Very good horse? For sure, but a superstar? You have got to be kidding. The most depressing line from the article is this 'His withdrawal still leaves the All Stars with the two NZ favourites in Miracle Mile winner Spankem and defending Cup champion The fixer' The boredom continues. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 interesting to hear that horse was unsound most of its racing this year so how did it keep racing ?? shez all rock has been retired too and Kayla Marie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 8 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: interesting to hear that horse was unsound most of its racing this year so how did it keep racing ?? shez all rock has been retired too and Kayla Marie The list is long and getting longer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 minute ago, Happy Sunrise said: The list is long and getting longer. but why is it getting longer??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted June 14, 2019 Author Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 minute ago, hunterthepunter said: but why is it getting longer??? Ask FTM or JJF about ACS and the AS. All for one and one for all. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) Brodie help us answer why list Is getting longers Edited June 14, 2019 by hunterthepunter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 4 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Ask FTM or JJF about ACS and the AS. All for one and one for all. you forgot new m rc kane retarted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 6 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: Brodie help us answer why list Is getting longers The AllStars horses I am sure are subjected to heavy workouts, as well as the racing. Everyone involved in the industry are well aware that it is not what advantages the AS horses are given it is more what they aren’t given. You only need to look at their fillies and mares, for some reason they all look like stallions! The best thing about the racing at the moment is that they don’t seem to race this time of year! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 great post there fillies and mares look like cattle its a wonder they don't have to wear the special tags that they are meant to wear Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDWHITEMAN Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 49 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: interesting to hear that horse was unsound most of its racing this year so how did it keep racing ?? shez all rock has been retired too and Kayla Marie I think that is a bit harsh Hunter. Kayla Marie has done a good job but she is unlikely to be competitive up in the grades... few mares are unless they have the ability of the likes of Carabella, Armalight, Adore Me and Blossom Lady. The Whitecocks are breeders and I think it makes sense to retire Kayla Marie to the breeding paddock. After all, they still have Princess Tiffany racing and KM is not in her league. Younger mares have more chance of leaving good stock too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 Whitecocks?? 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 8 hours ago, Brodie said: Whitecocks?? Brendancocks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 (edited) 11 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: Ask FTM or JJF about ACS and the AS. All for one and one for all. I'm not sure why you post this sort of stuff Happy. Am I.not entitled to my opinion on ACS either here or on another forum?? While not everyone's cup of tea FTM outed himself some time ago and no longer posts yet you and a few others on here for some reason still obsess about him on a regular basis. That I just don't understand. Can I ask you why?? Greg Edited June 14, 2019 by JJ Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 14, 2019 Share Posted June 14, 2019 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: I'm not sure why you post this sort of stuff Happy. Am I.not entitled to my opinion on ACS either here or on another forum?? While not everyone's cup of tea FTM outed himself some time ago and no longer posts yet you and a few others on here for some reason still obsess about him on a regular basis. That I just don't understand. Can I ask you why?? Greg well greg it is like this ftm was running the show and not letting posters have there say just like when your on trackside letting mick run the show 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 7 hours ago, JJ Flash said: I'm not sure why you post this sort of stuff Happy. Am I.not entitled to my opinion on ACS either here or on another forum?? While not everyone's cup of tea FTM outed himself some time ago and no longer posts yet you and a few others on here for some reason still obsess about him on a regular basis. That I just don't understand. Can I ask you why?? Greg You will work it out one day. Who is Hunter the Punter on Racecafe? Ask the moron who uses that name whether they have an obesession. See, people like you only see things they want to. A very smilar trait to FTM. I have no time for it. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 obesession ftm has 3 accounts ftm newmarket and kane21 so must be half wit??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 16 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: You will work it out one day. Who is Hunter the Punter on Racecafe? Ask the moron who uses that name whether they have an obesession. See, people like you only see things they want to. A very smilar trait to FTM. I have no time for I have no interest in who Racecafe HTP Is nor who they are so can't assist you. As for your other assertion you and a few others might want to look in the mirror. I base my posts on facts accumulated over a long period of time in the game. I listen and engage respectfully with people I am a fan.of MP and his stable based on their results. They would be the most tested stable in NZ racing in all codes yet have a remarkably clean record. Harness racing in NZ has a lot more pressing problems than Team AS sucesses IMHO. Continued poor governance at all levels are far more relevant Perhaps the demise and clean out at NZRB in few weeks as RITA takes the reins might assist . Also the upcoming results of RIU review may encourage positive change. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: I have no interest in who Racecafe HTP Is nor who they are so can't assist you. As for your other assertion you and a few others might want to look in the mirror. I base my posts on facts accumulated over a long period of time in the game. I listen and engage respectfully with people I am a fan.of MP and his stable based on their results. They would be the most tested stable in NZ racing in all codes yet have a remarkably clean record. Harness racing in NZ has a lot more pressing problems than Team AS sucesses IMHO. Continued poor governance at all levels are far more relevant Perhaps the demise and clean out at NZRB in few weeks as RITA takes the reins might assist . Also the upcoming results of RIU review may encourage positive change. Greg why don't you promote changes on trackside like you promote the as Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, JJ Flash said: I have no interest in who Racecafe HTP Is nor who they are so can't assist you. As for your other assertion you and a few others might want to look in the mirror. I base my posts on facts accumulated over a long period of time in the game. I listen and engage respectfully with people I am a fan.of MP and his stable based on their results. They would be the most tested stable in NZ racing in all codes yet have a remarkably clean record. Harness racing in NZ has a lot more pressing problems than Team AS sucesses IMHO. Continued poor governance at all levels are far more relevant Perhaps the demise and clean out at NZRB in few weeks as RITA takes the reins might assist . Also the upcoming results of RIU review may encourage positive change. Greg Greg, you have blinkers on. You are correct that harness racing has pressing problems, and one of the biggest is the domination of the AllStars stable. You are wrong in your statement in regards to@ remarkably clean record. Have you heard of Blue Magic? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobybec Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 Marky Mark will always have a (blue) cloud over his training career. Can't be because they work harder than everyone else ............. can it? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted June 15, 2019 Author Share Posted June 15, 2019 2 hours ago, JJ Flash said: I have no interest in who Racecafe HTP Is nor who they are so can't assist you. I give up. You just don't get it do you. Last question, do you like Lachie Marshall as a commentator? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 23 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: I give up. You just don't get it do you. Last question, do you like Lachie Marshall as a commentator? Dont get what or do you not know what your real question No.inaccurate in too many of his calls. Edited June 15, 2019 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Greg, you have blinkers on. You are correct that harness racing has pressing problems, and one of the biggest is the domination of the AllStars stable. You are wrong in your statement in regards to@ remarkably clean record. Have you heard of Blue Magic? Very selective Mr Brodie. I used the adjective remarkably. Yes there was blue magic and the injection trial.fine in Ozzie. Given the number of starters and winners they have produced in this century how many tests wpuld have been carried out even to the extent that some may well have been sent to HKG and all were negative. Compare that to say the Dunns in terms of positives and that's why I use the term relative. Greg Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
boobybec Posted June 15, 2019 Share Posted June 15, 2019 (edited) 8 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Very selective Mr Brodie. I used the adjective remarkably. Yes there was blue magic and the injection trial.fine in Ozzie. Given the number of starters and winners they have produced in this century how many tests wpuld have been carried out even to the extent that some may well have been sent to HKG and all were negative. Compare that to say the Dunns in terms of positives and that's why I use the term relative. Greg This passive aggressive stance is pretty tiresome Grego. The Dunns aren't afraid to have a go, most other stables have got the white flag out and you can't blame them. Edited June 15, 2019 by boobybec 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Kidd Posted June 16, 2019 Share Posted June 16, 2019 Callers represent an era in our own harness racing journey. They can be as iconic as the horses we remember from yesteryear. Would love to hear a recording of a Lochie Marshall racecall. I can't remember how good a caller or otherwise he was. The one call of his that has stayed with me was when Lord Module raced at Forbury. Lochie felt Ces Devine was pulling up Lord Module in a race and not trying. He said so in his call. The one and only time I've ever heard a caller say this in a call. People often rate Reg Clapp as a superb caller. I felt he was with his neck and neck, stride for stride but unfortunately Reg stayed on too long. He mistook the number of rounds several times and made routine errors so his legacy was somewhat tainted. The caller I'd most like to hear a recording of is Jack O'Donnell. He covered the top of the South Island and West Coast during the 70's and 80's. "Always started his calls with "this time"..or "racing this time". Haven't heard his voice for decades and nothing on Youtube. I know Jack part owned Cup class pacer Happy Asset who won 14 races. Unsure if he was also involved with the awesome Take A Moment. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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