Chief Stipe Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 22 Race Meetings tomorrow in OZ. TEN are NON-TAB meetings BUT have stakes to be won. Most more than our mid week meetings. How do they do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Good management. And unless I am misinformed, that didn't include the arbitrary closing of tracks. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Its a smidge more than that Freda. Its having a public that actually cares about racing, here in NZ nobody gives a fark, racing has truly been lost to the NZ public other than a fun activity during Xmas. I must admit even a racing freak like myself cant be bothered the last 2 or 3 times to venture along as its just too damn boring at the track, when they start to lose people like me then racing is totally farked. I paid a membership to Te Rapa 6 weeks ago and havent heard a fucking thing since, where is my membership ticket or even a bloody acknowlegdement ffs. Just an email to say pop in and collect your membership would be nice, but nope not a bloody dickeybird, the club system is totally rooted and the quicker its done away with the better. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tonkatime! Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 1 hour ago, barryb said: Its a smidge more than that Freda. Its having a public that actually cares about racing, here in NZ nobody gives a fark, racing has truly been lost to the NZ public other than a fun activity during Xmas. I must admit even a racing freak like myself cant be bothered the last 2 or 3 times to venture along as its just too damn boring at the track, when they start to lose people like me then racing is totally farked. I paid a membership to Te Rapa 6 weeks ago and havent heard a fucking thing since, where is my membership ticket or even a bloody acknowlegdement ffs. Just an email to say pop in and collect your membership would be nice, but nope not a bloody dickeybird, the club system is totally rooted and the quicker its done away with the better. Spot on Barry, you have hit the nail on the head. Aside from a few handfuls of days a year when there is a bit of atmosphere on course why would you want to be on course let alone pay for the privilege I happened to be in Hawera for there Saturday race day last year, reasonable numbers in the members and plenty of people in the public area doing anything but betting or watching the races, in fact most were at a dance party under the stand probably completely unaware what was happening outside. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 Dont disagree with what you both say, but I dont feel that it is the 'club' system that is ti blame, rather the personnel in that system. Any model can work if the people are keen and give a damn - if the operators dont give a shite then no system will work. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 White males over 50 is the demographic of club members, trainers and most participants, everything is done to protect rather than advance racing, there’s your problem Freda. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 I wonder what would happen if an outfit like BGP took over running a club? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 5 minutes ago, curious said: I wonder what would happen if an outfit like BGP took over running a club? The experiment would be worth trying for sure, cant be any worse can it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 As a pale stale male I really hate being labelled as part of the problem. I can assure you I can party as hard as any 30 year old!! The issue is at the top - NZRB (RITA) and NZTR. Years and years of wasted resources and no investment or worse bad investment. The clubs have been starved. Wouldn't matter who you had running a club now as the bank accounts are empty. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
barryb Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 (edited) 36 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: As a pale stale male I really hate being labelled as part of the problem. I can assure you I can party as hard as any 30 year old!! The issue is at the top - NZRB (RITA) and NZTR. Years and years of wasted resources and no investment or worse bad investment. The clubs have been starved. Wouldn't matter who you had running a club now as the bank accounts are empty. Individually No, collectively yes its the problem alright. Zero diversity Chief, women are the untapped race betting market, yet there representation in the industry is very poor. Edited August 23, 2019 by barryb Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 23, 2019 Author Share Posted August 23, 2019 4 minutes ago, barryb said: Individually No, collectively yes its the problem alright. Zero diversity Chief, women are the untapped race betting market, yet there representation in the industry is very poor. But there is little or no relationship between women being involved in managing the industry and targeting them as a potential punter. Certainly at the club level. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted August 23, 2019 Share Posted August 23, 2019 2 hours ago, barryb said: The experiment would be worth trying for sure, cant be any worse can it? Hell no, would be well worth a try. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kopia Posted August 24, 2019 Share Posted August 24, 2019 On 24/08/2019 at 9:25 AM, Chief Stipe said: As a pale stale male I really hate being labelled as part of the problem. I can assure you I can party as hard as any 30 year old!! The issue is at the top - NZRB (RITA) and NZTR. Years and years of wasted resources and no investment or worse bad investment. The clubs have been starved. Wouldn't matter who you had running a club now as the bank accounts are empty. Heres the reality: if New Zealand became a state of Australia, our racing industry would rate below Northern Territory's racing.and thats saying something. But that is a fact. I just read De Lores's latest blurb.something like 140 people employed by the 'Racing Board' earning over $100,000. Ask yourself where the main problem here lies. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Centaur Posted August 25, 2019 Share Posted August 25, 2019 11 hours ago, Kopia said: Heres the reality: if New Zealand became a state of Australia, our racing industry would rate below Northern Territory's racing.and thats saying something. But that is a fact. I just read De Lores's latest blurb.something like 140 people employed by the 'Racing Board' earning over $100,000. Ask yourself where the main problem here lies. 140 thats a shocker. Technology should mean no middle man. i.e. no TAB or bookies. Therefore just punters and clubs. It can happen. In fact its the only way racing can survive. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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