Richie Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 Way over odds tonight 15 and 4 worth a look Best horse in field but may need this but still way overs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 27, 2019 Share Posted September 27, 2019 (edited) Some team driving in that race. Not just the all stars that team drive. Maurrice McKendry clearly sacrificed any chance Bare knuckle had to give its stablemate a good run,and andre poutama gave up the perfect 1/1 sit on Check in to go 5 back the fence, I guess the stable got the win with the one they expected,although the way the race was run could just have easily been its stablemate . Star galleria went very well. Edited September 27, 2019 by the galah 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasketti Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 16 hours ago, the galah said: Some team driving in that race. Not just the all stars that team drive. Maurrice McKendry clearly sacrificed any chance Bare knuckle had to give its stablemate a good run,and andre poutama gave up the perfect 1/1 sit on Check in to go 5 back the fence, I guess the stable got the win with the one they expected,although the way the race was run could just have easily been its stablemate . Star galleria went very well. Sounds like you can drive better than the professionals that actually are doing the driving. Not all of the drivers team drive get your facts right before you throw that out there. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 27 minutes ago, Pasketti said: Sounds like you can drive better than the professionals that actually are doing the driving. Not all of the drivers team drive get your facts right before you throw that out there. the galah is leading trainer and driver 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 minute ago, hunterthepunter said: the galah is leading trainer and driver elmer will keep him on his toes 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 3 minutes ago, Rangatira said: elmer will keep him on his toes Elmer lance Fudd Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: Elmer lance Fudd early jewelz leader 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasketti Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 14 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: the galah is leading trainer and driver So he knows the ins and out of every driver and horse....must be superman. So annoying the negativity. Maybe the horse that one was just the best one on the night god forbid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasketti Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 29 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: the galah is leading trainer and driver So he knows the ins and out of every driver and horse....must be superman. So annoying the negativity. Maybe the horse that one was just the best one on the night god forbid Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasketti Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Won not one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, Pasketti said: So he knows the ins and out of every driver and horse....must be superman. So annoying the negativity. Maybe the horse that one was just the best one on the night god forbid I thought anyone with any judgment watching that race could work out McKendry drove a shocker in keeping the lead when he could have got the perfect sit behind the horse that won impressively last week. And the reason for his dumb tactics were intended to give his stablemate the trail. As to andee poutama. Do you really think it was an intelligent move to go 4 or 5 back the fence when the obvious 1/1 sit was there for the taking? Come on ,it was also dumb. And yes you are right, i do think I know the ins and outs of every driver/horse. I think every horse should be driven on its own merits,not to assist stablemates. And we all know team driving happens a lot. Its one of my pet hates. Team driving is the cause of negativity, so blame them. I never stated the winner was not the best horse,so don't know why you infer I did. Edited September 28, 2019 by the galah 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, the galah said: And yes you are right, i do think I know the ins and outs of every driver/horse. How will Awesome Impee and Stevie Lynn go tomorrow? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasketti Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 hours ago, the galah said: I thought anyone with any judgment watching that race could work out McKendry drove a shocker in keeping the lead when he could have got the perfect sit behind the horse that won impressively last week. And the reason for his dumb tactics were intended to give his stablemate the trail. As to andee poutama. Do you really think it was an intelligent move to go 4 or 5 back the fence when the obvious 1/1 sit was there for the taking? Come on ,it was also dumb. And yes you are right, i do think I know the ins and outs of every driver/horse. I think every horse should be driven on its own merits,not to assist stablemates. And we all know team driving happens a lot. Its one of my pet hates. Team driving is the cause of negativity, so blame them. I never stated the winner was not the best horse,so don't know why you infer I did. So why assume team driving why not just say it was a bad drive? There is a huge Difference. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 23 hours ago, the galah said: andre poutama gave up the perfect 1/1 sit on Check in to go 5 back the fence It is very questionable. Yet, no questions asked I see. 25 minutes ago, Pasketti said: So why assume team driving why not just say it was a bad drive? How does this happen with the horse 4 back on the inside (eventual winner) in a very short distance? Is it that easy to push out when no horse is making a move? I don't see this very often. Why does it not happen more often? My armchair is asking. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pasketti Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 This sites pathetic. I’m back to racecafe much more positivity on there. North Island racing battling enough without everyone be a critic. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Pasketti said: So why assume team driving why not just say it was a bad drive? There is a huge Difference. I believe both were team driving and both were bads drives. Both drives snuffed out both horses chances 7 minutes ago, Pasketti said: This sites pathetic. I’m back to racecafe much more positivity on there. North Island racing battling enough without everyone be a critic. Heres the title of the last 7 threads currently on racecafe. U may ccollect, Auckland update, What a joke, Addington acceptance fees, Hannon driver tactics,Hardly worth it,and betterstartdreaming(about poor driving). Hardly positivity .Your better off sticking to bit of a yarn. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 Pasketti, I don't see how this site is pathetic when someone put forwards comment about race tactics. You have only said it was a bad drive rather than team driving. So if Poutama's drive is considerd 'bad' for dropping down to 4 or 5 back on the rails early on when he would have been well placed on the outside, do you think he should have been questioned by the stipes about his decision making? From a punter's point of view it is quite frustrating. Could you answer my questions in my above post? I am interested in knowing the answer as I am asking genuinely. When an astute person like Galah points things out it is worth listening to and then debating if one feels the need. As for Racecafe being much more positive - I suggest you read the threads on there and reconsider your comment. Nobody wants to see North Island harness battle as it is vital for the industry as a whole. I don't have any inside knowledge of the true state of the game but with what I read about the development and debt I would be afraid to pull up the carpet to see what might really be there. I just don't think blaming this thread and BOAY is the answer. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: How will Awesome Impee and Stevie Lynn go tomorrow? I have awesome impee rated 2nd behind one of your old favorites flying mandy. Of course we both know flying mandy is very risky,and I think better coming from behind. Stevie lynn. Ive got it rated about 7th.Quite a few chances in that race. Ive got calypso rock(draw bad though),jive,carita fraud and For today as my top 5. So i'm picking 1/3 of the field which makes it confusing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 7 minutes ago, the galah said: I have awesome impee rated 2nd behind one of your old favorites flying mandy. Of course we both know flying mandy is very risky,and I think better coming from behind. Stevie lynn. Ive got it rated about 7th.Quite a few chances in that race. Ive got calypso rock(draw bad though),jive,carita fraud and For today as my top 5. So i'm picking 1/3 of the field which makes it confusing. Mandy's manners.... Leading not her go you are right there. Very interesting to hear your thoughts. Cheers.? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, Pasketti said: This sites pathetic. I’m back to racecafe much more positivity on there. North Island racing battling enough without everyone be a critic. Unfortunately as people that fund the sport we have the right to scrutinize what we see, it must be a tough job as a trainer or driver I imagine as I have never been one, but same as anyone in any job you are always under the microscope, rightly or wrongly. With the amount of races every week there is actually very little criticism 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 got to say the drivers up north are not of a high standard now and lot of them have gone off the boil 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 13 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: got to say the drivers up north are not of a high standard now and lot of them have gone off the boil We were gifted in the north at one point with old Wolfie and many other good uns herlihy and Maurie Mac in nappies coming through 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 2 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: It is very questionable. Yet, no questions asked I see. How does this happen with the horse 4 back on the inside (eventual winner) in a very short distance? Is it that easy to push out when no horse is making a move? I don't see this very often. Why does it not happen more often? My armchair is asking. David Butcher a master of the barge out when he is on a winner. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 1 hour ago, Pasketti said: This sites pathetic. I’m back to racecafe much more positivity on there. North Island racing battling enough without everyone be a critic. harden up buttercup 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted September 28, 2019 Share Posted September 28, 2019 5 minutes ago, Flagship uberalles said: We were gifted in the north at one point with old Wolfie and many other good uns herlihy and Maurie Mac in nappies coming through They just need to make a proper pathway for the young ones to come through in the north who will replace the great ones but that is just a minor part of the bigger picture. The question is whether the bigger picture is taken care of. I thought it was with the development and increased stakes. Then they could redistribute money to areas where they needed it? Am I wrong? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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