Happy Sunrise Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Racing at Mecca tomorrow. Apparently free entry if patrons pat Phar Lap's head as they enter the course....? I am struggling to find a mix of value and confidence but I have settled on odd one. I like Jonty James for the place in the last at 3.40FF. The field is pretty weak for a start and he has drawn one over the mobile which is a vast improvement over the carpark draws he has been getting. He ran on out wide against Rollova at the Mot and his previous start at Ashburton he ran a 5 length fifth to Wild Excuse after being 5 back on the outside in the running. Franco Garrett, King of Heroes and Portalegre were the other placed horses in front of him. The favourite Simply Dreaming is off the unruly and only paying FF2.10 (no more free rides for the Purvis punters these days) Old Jonty still seems to be interested in hitting the line so I may even go each way in a big drop in class. There are a few shorties like Vintage Beach, Laver, Patronus Star who may well win but not at those odds for me. Also looking forward to seeing how Rory Brown fronts up after his disgrace on debut at Addington. He stepped slowly at the trials but it is hard to shake off his previous trial form where he looked pretty good. He is at 7FF and I doubt I will be able to let him slide. Hopefully more on the tote. Interesting there has been money for El Dorado (McGrath and Orange combo) in a competitive race but none for Cloud Nine (same combo) considering Cloud Nine looked to be better than El Dorado in the 2 year old races. And this is also interesting, a one start trotter with a solitary 9th to its name after breaking and taking on much more experienced horses gets back in the fixed odds... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Happy, moons way shortened in from 71 to 41 but it wouldn’t take much to do this with the Bookies. can it win? Yes, if it started now! 90% chance of galloping. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 minute ago, Brodie said: moons way shortened in from 71 to 41 but it wouldn’t take much to do this with the Bookies. I know, but someone still thinks it can win. Jonty James has dropped from 19 to 13s. I haven't backed it for the win yet. Just anchoring a few multis with it. I am waiting for Methven@Ashburton ....next week lol. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 Chancing my arm here, but at 11,s ff and 19 on the tote worth some dosh. Love the Hopes horses. Race 5 Krystal Delight No5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 we need local tipster counter punch tips 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 15 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: we need local tipster counter punch tips What about your tips HTP? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 9 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: What about your tips HTP? HTP will tip Cloud Nine and El Dorado both from his trainers barn. 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 A lot of talk in race 6 for Dametoro after good workout form,get on early because the money will come and also stablemate Virginia Cool in race 7 from good draw. R9 The Loyalist has nice draw and qualified ok And in the last like Happy I think Jonty James can give them a shakr 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trotsfan Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I like Race 4 Ardee trouble 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Richie said: HTP will tip Cloud Nine and El Dorado both from his trainers barn. Think his money is already on. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 1 hour ago, Richie said: HTP will tip Cloud Nine and El Dorado both from his trainers barn. Money starting to come for both those runners now. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 24 minutes ago, Nowornever said: Money starting to come for both those runners now. Looking at their trials you would think cloud break should be paying about $20 and el dorado $8. Yet as you say they are only paying $3 each. Not for me at those prices. I like senor margarita at $71 and don't tell ange for a place at $5.75 That's more my type of price. I also like shezabromac and jive to be a quinella. Having said that I have a very poor strike rate when tipping on here. 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 DD s superstar AGAIN! $26....... Hunter has blown the moths and dust out of his wallet..money on alright..nice multi cloud 9 and eldorado! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 5 minutes ago, the galah said: Looking at their trials you would think cloud break should be paying about $20 and el dorado $8. I tend to ignore trials form for that stable. Usually given quiet runs and then go massive on race day. Both those horses looked weak last prep but obviously have ability if they are prepared to put them in against the good Purdon horses in age group races.Where there is smoke there is fire. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 21 minutes ago, the galah said: Looking at their trials you would think cloud break should be paying about $20 and el dorado $8. Yet as you say they are only paying $3 each. 12 minutes ago, Nowornever said: I tend to ignore trials form for that stable. Usually given quiet runs and then go massive on race day. Their trials were so quiet I reckon it is a boom or bust situation. If Cloud Nine wins first the other will probably win too. What concerns me with Orange / McGrath is what like happened last week at the Mot with Adhika. It had no trial form to speak off but still went out at 4s or so simply because of the combination and ran an average race for 7th. Is there ability, or as Galah has alluded to, just a TAB lead to entice people. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 6 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Their trials were so quiet I reckon it is a boom or bust situation. If Cloud Nine wins first the other will probably win too. What concerns me with Orange / McGrath is what like happened last week at the Mot with Adhika. It had no trial form to speak off but still went out at 4s or so simply because of the combination and ran an average race for 7th. Is there ability, or as Galah has alluded to, just a TAB lead to entice people. Silent Major in Race 9 could not win that race on its trial form but opens $6.00. Possibly another where there is smoke situation but some strange money in that race. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDWHITEMAN Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 I won't be betting hate the Washdyke track. Ms Oldwhitewoman is having a go though. She reckons Mono Gamble (Race 2) is the go... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 5, 2019 Author Share Posted October 5, 2019 7 minutes ago, Nowornever said: Silent Major in Race 9 could not win that race on its trial form but opens $6.00. You are right on its trial form but the TAB is just keeping it tight because of Hill/May factor Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted October 5, 2019 Share Posted October 5, 2019 2 hours ago, Nowornever said: Silent Major in Race 9 could not win that race on its trial form but opens $6.00. Possibly another where there is smoke situation but some strange money in that race. I seen a workout where they just sat behind pack then moved to inside at 800m,dont know why and just ran right up behind winner last 200m hard held. Reackon could have won by 10 lengths if they wanted Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nowornever Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) The money is pouring on that non win trotter Moon Way against the horses who have won races 71 into 16 Edited October 6, 2019 by Nowornever Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Nowornever said: The money is pouring on that non win trotter Moon Way against the horses who have won races 71 into 16 Must think it has a head start! Why would you line it up in a winners race rather than a maiden? be pretty certain to gallop around the first bend as it often finds horses out! Edited October 6, 2019 by Brodie 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Counter Punch Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, Brodie said: Must think it has a head start! Why would you line it up in a winners race rather than a maiden? be pretty certain to gallop around the first bend as it often finds horses Pretty simple really. Horse didnt get a start in maiden. But because there wasnt a full field in the higher trot it could get a start there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 1 hour ago, Counter Punch said: Pretty simple really. Horse didnt get a start in maiden. But because there wasnt a full field in the higher trot it could get a start there. Fair enough but had little chance in that field CP. Who would’ve been backing it in that field and knowing that it would more than likely gallop? It will probably win at some stage but seriously had little chance today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted October 6, 2019 Author Share Posted October 6, 2019 29 minutes ago, Brodie said: Who would’ve been backing it in that field and knowing that it would more than likely gallop? Somebody thought otherwise. 6 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: DD s superstar AGAIN! $26 Walked up, stood still and looked like it had no forward momentum to get away cleanly. DD still runs on at the end. I think the driver needs to utilize the UR and time it for a walking start for the horse. Last chance saloon next week at home at Methven on the grass. Could be the boilover if he only gets away on even terms. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted October 6, 2019 Share Posted October 6, 2019 22 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Somebody thought otherwise. Walked up, stood still and looked like it had no forward momentum to get away cleanly. DD still runs on at the end. I think the driver needs to utilize the UR and time it for a walking start for the horse. Last chance saloon next week at home at Methven on the grass. Could be the boilover if he only gets away on even terms. That unruly Mark is like a 30m handicap, he has the talent to get one, but would be nice to get a big divvy off him! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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