Thomass Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 Yea, let's face it...Troy Harris's ride was totally RECKLESS rather than 'Competitive' Boxed on the turn, Harris can be seen quite clearly with right handle bar DOWN... Gives Shorn Ritchie's horse a complete, often Injury Inducing, side swipe.... ....it's near fore now taking an extreme load at an extreme angle...as it struggles to balance again... This type of RECKLESS riding...masquerading as 'Competitive' here and in Australia...is a disgrace... And the Likes of Mick Guerin simply LOVE RECKLESS riding...it's an accepted narrative now... ...you're in a pocket and it's absolutely ok to ride RECKLESSLY...I.e. 'ride to injure' yea na 1 Quote
Thomass Posted November 12, 2019 Author Posted November 12, 2019 No! Guess what...the Stipe 'boys' pulled the 'got shunted from the inside' b/s... ...when clearly it was slight at the most.... ..and simply ignored Harris had his right handle bar hard down at the time... ...pause the video and you'll note the head is already on its way to hard right! 1 Quote
SLB2.0 Posted November 12, 2019 Posted November 12, 2019 You're kidding? I immediately thought that deserved at least two weeks. 1 Quote
Freda Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 Not only was Ritchie's horse at risk of injury....but Catalyst too. Far too much of this happening and far too little done about it. 3 Quote
The Centaur Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 Got to agree the ride was very untidy. Potentially dangerous. At least he didn't do a Matt Cameron and thrash the horse to a 10 length win affecting its future chances. Even so horse and rider didn't inspire confidence for future. Quote
holy ravioli Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 future looks pretty good to...me! Quote
Chief Stipe Posted November 13, 2019 Posted November 13, 2019 31 minutes ago, holy ravioli said: future looks pretty good to...me! I agree. Ran home in 32! Can get out of tight situations without losing momentum - need to be able to do that in OZ. Seems to be mentally tough too. Quote
Weasel Posted November 14, 2019 Posted November 14, 2019 9 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: I agree. Ran home in 32! Can get out of tight situations without losing momentum - need to be able to do that in OZ. Seems to be mentally tough too. he got away with it this time.. in essence, bounced off the other horse with no loss of momentum ...fraction of a second sooner or later and it could have been very ugly for horse(s) and rider(s) I was very surprised Harris did not get fined/suspended. 1 Quote
Thomass Posted November 14, 2019 Author Posted November 14, 2019 Even if the outward movement from the inside horse, as excused by Stipes, hadn't happened... ...would they have accepted the 'COMPETETIVE' riding excuse though Weas? It appears it's general consensus in Australasia that it's ok to cannon your way out of a hole? Quote
Mooncoin Posted November 14, 2019 Posted November 14, 2019 On looking at that field Thomo, surely this race must be down graded 1-2 or even 3 notches! Quote
Chief Stipe Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 33 minutes ago, Mooncoin said: On looking at that field Thomo, surely this race must be down graded 1-2 or even 3 notches! Nup. Two or three very good horses in that race who will prove themselves in OZ in the autumn. Quote
Mooncoin Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 Just one out of that race Chief.The rest well below! Quote
Chief Stipe Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, Mooncoin said: Just one out of that race Chief.The rest well below! The second horse will improve. He can run a good sectional. Quote
Thomass Posted November 15, 2019 Author Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Mooncoin said: On looking at that field Thomo, surely this race must be down graded 1-2 or even 3 notches! Tough marking Mooner! Sometimes these early Classics have immature younguns maturing after Xmas too! Have to agree with Chef...the Fletcher horse is also high quality...especially after doing so much wrong through the race... Sian & Hughy won't sell either...they're sooo old now it'll be their last chance for G1 owner Glory...it's written in Sanskrit Quote
Guest CrossCodes Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 The horse has done an amazing job here, and Chipperfield has done nothing wrong by the horse. It, if the owners don’t send him to Australia to chase the big races and big money they need their heads read! And let’s be realistic, Troy Harris is a glorified high weight rider who has been lucky to be on a top horse, despite the predicaments he has unnecessarily put the horse in, the horse has won these races not him and lucky to come away unscathed. Quote
holy ravioli Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 1 hour ago, CrossCodes said: The horse has done an amazing job here, and Chipperfield has done nothing wrong by the horse. It, if the owners don’t send him to Australia to chase the big races and big money they need their heads read! And let’s be realistic, Troy Harris is a glorified high weight rider who has been lucky to be on a top horse, despite the predicaments he has unnecessarily put the horse in, the horse has won these races not him and lucky to come away unscathed. Troy is a handy hoop.Even as an apprentice he showed some X factor. 1 Quote
Mooncoin Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 4 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: The second horse will improve. He can run a good sectional. Fair enough Chief and Thomo, you guys probably get to see these animals in the flesh! My point was aiming mainly at the classification of the race and depth of the field(Jmo)! I have watched replay again and concede the first two can go on.? 1 Quote
Chief Stipe Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 2 hours ago, holy ravioli said: Troy is a handy hoop.Even as an apprentice he showed some X factor. Even after he broke both his legs! Quote
Weasel Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 17 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: The second horse will improve. He can run a good sectional. i believe Harlech's closing sectional was faster than Catalyst's. And I predict T. Harris won't be aboard in Oz. Too much at stake for dodgems... Quote
Freda Posted November 15, 2019 Posted November 15, 2019 Agree. And I've got no axe to grind with Troy at all, it is just that the very best riders don't seem to find the need to knock others over because they're in a stupid possie in the first place. Noticeable when you watch the likes of Mick Dee and how ordinary the opposition looks in comparison. Easy to criticize from the sideline of course. Quote
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