Brodie Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) Interesting question is why do our champion mares not leave horses that are ever as good as themselves! Do the AllStars champion mares that they have had, never left much of note unless you can think of some? You would think with the ability that some mares show combined with champion stallions, they would leave other champions, but doesn’t seem that way at all!! Good broodmares continue to leave winner after winner, despite many of them being unraced or lightly raced. Will be very interesting to see what Adore Me and it’s relations who have been champions for the AllStars Do in the breeding barn! Edited December 15, 2019 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Brodie said: Interesting question is why do our champion mares not leave horses that are ever as good as themselves! Do the AllStars champion mares that they have had, never left much of note unless you can think of some? You would think with the ability that some mares show combined with champion stallions, they would leave other champions, but doesn’t seem that way at all!! Good broodmares continue to leave winner after winner, despite many of them being unraced or lightly raced. Will be very interesting to see what Adore Me and it’s relations who have been champions for the AllStars Do in the breeding barn! Chances are off spring of all stars great mares will have 6 legs and 8 eyes!! But on a serious note not many of the great mares I can think of even produced raceable off spring let alone anything good, the real champs like delightful lady, bonnies chance, Armalight, blossom lady etc 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
holy ravioli Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Ultimate Snipers mother was...handy. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 Adore Me produce Sweet on Me won every race last year as a 2yo F. Now off to the broodmare paddock. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 2 hours ago, Roman said: Adore Me produce Sweet on Me won every race last year as a 2yo F. Now off to the broodmare paddock. How many did it win Roman? Why have they retired it after only racing at 2? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brodie said: How many did it win Roman? won 6 of 7 and in excess of 200K Edited December 15, 2019 by Rangatira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Brodie said: How many did it win Roman? Why have they retired it after only racing at 2? Raced 7 times for 6 wins and a second. No idea why it was retired. Very valuable horse either way given its breeding and an outstanding performer for its veteran owner /breeder C J Roberts Greg Edited December 15, 2019 by JJ Flash 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 12 hours ago, Brodie said: You would think with the ability that some mares show combined with champion stallions, they would leave other champions, but doesn’t seem that way at all!! when was it like that in the standardbred industry do you have some examples of champion mares leaving champions ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted December 15, 2019 Author Share Posted December 15, 2019 23 minutes ago, Rangatira said: when was it like that in the standardbred industry do you have some examples of champion mares leaving champions ? Not at all Ranga! That is the question, why don’t they? Human athletes tend to leave good athletes but not with harness horses for some reason. You would think that their attributes would be passed on to their progeny wouldn’t you? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 (edited) 10 minutes ago, Brodie said: You would think that their attributes would be passed on to their progeny wouldn’t you? providing one ignored history when pointing out the breeding of a yearling i have heard it said more than a few times that johnny weissmullers mother drowned in the bath Edited December 15, 2019 by Rangatira 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 27 minutes ago, Brodie said: Not at all Ranga! That is the question, why don’t they? Human athletes tend to leave good athletes but not with harness horses for some reason. You would think that their attributes would be passed on to their progeny wouldn’t you? From my observation it appears that the Standardbred Stallion has a greater influence on the progeny than the Standardbred mare which is different to the Thoroughbred. There seem to be many Standardbred Stallions that upgrade a poor mare. Another observation is that the first generation from a champion mare is not always the best but her daughters and grand-daughters often produce something of note. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted December 15, 2019 Share Posted December 15, 2019 11 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Another observation is that the first generation from a champion mare is not always the best but her daughters and grand-daughters often produce something of note. very much the case Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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