Blossom lady Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 Can someone please check on mark this morning. After the disaster of the last 2 weeks racing in oz I'm a bit worried about him! never seen so many horses go whizzing by all star runners at the end of group races ! 5 beaten favourites driven by marky boy last night. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 A bit different watching horses run past the All Stars. From the few I saw they Aussies served it up big time, I think a few in NZ could learn from them instead of constantly bowing to them and trying to run third. What happened to Oscar B? I didn't see the race but an 8th, 9 lengths away, seems hard to believe. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roman Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 55 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: A bit different watching horses run past the All Stars. From the few I saw they Aussies served it up big time, I think a few in NZ could learn from them instead of constantly bowing to them and trying to run third. What happened to Oscar B? I didn't see the race but an 8th, 9 lengths away, seems hard to believe. Launched 3 wide from the winning post, 3rd 1/4 in 27.5 and he must have gone 27 for it and battled his way up the straight. Be interesting to see how he goes next week in the GSS as Temporale followed him and never looked like loosing at the 300m 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted January 25, 2020 Share Posted January 25, 2020 6 minutes ago, Roman said: Launched 3 wide from the winning post, 3rd 1/4 in 27.5 and he must have gone 27 for it and battled his way up the straight. Be interesting to see how he goes next week in the GSS as Temporale followed him and never looked like loosing at the 300m He certainly doesn't look happy when the pressure goes on.Obviously still a work in progress. We beat him home in the National and given a half decent draw personally, and leaving the bias out I think the GSS is ours to lose with MM. Phil wouldn't take him over if he thought that was enough for the season ,but he is still pinging along and if any horse deserved a big one it is this bugger. Stylish Memphis was the run of the night . Huge effort on that pace from the car park. And another Northerner in Triple Eight impressed me with a gutsy run for 4th, after working hard. He has stepped up consistently this horse and is a welcome addition to the top ranks.And in that bunch also is Mach Shard, a real revelation and once again a Northerner. Roll on next week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Blossom lady said: Can someone please check on mark this morning. After the disaster of the last 2 weeks racing in oz I'm a bit worried about him! never seen so many horses go whizzing by all star runners at the end of group races ! 5 beaten favourites driven by marky boy last night. looked like kaikoura racing great win in oaks by cran and Nathan Edited January 26, 2020 by hunterthepunter spelling Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 10 hours ago, Blossom lady said: Can someone please check on mark this morning. After the disaster of the last 2 weeks racing in oz I'm a bit worried about him! never seen so many horses go whizzing by all star runners at the end of group races ! 5 beaten favourites driven by marky boy last night. Have checked on Mark and he is quite happy and no disaster impending . Stylish Memphis went beautifully from the draw. Beat the Oaks winner last week when draws were better. Plus it was Nathan training. Smooth Deal failed last week no surprise. Ranked about '40th' in stable and hasn't won for nearly a year. just not that good really. The Fixer, race distance a bit short of his best. He went well. First 4 home all kiwi bred top class horses racing well. Cash and Flow went 1.49 last week .!!?!?!? and still didn't win this. Well done Barry Purdon with his horse instead. Oscar Bonevena still learning and that was a tricky race. MMetro was under pressure as well. Winterfell beat him recently anyway. Self Assured has 2 x 2nds after winning Auckland Cup that were both grand runs. Home in 54 seconds last night behind a very under-rated and potentially best Aussie horse in 'Lochinvar Art' 6 lengths clear of 3rd horse !!amazing !! Whitesocks indeed had his lucky moment in the sun last week Ballarat Cup, as did you see Chase Auckland's late finishes at Ballarat and Cambridge?. Brilliant !!! So NO Disaster anywhere . maybe not bringing Amazing Deam over to win VIC Oaks was surprising. Cleaned up those first 2 at Akld. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Gammalite said: Have checked on Mark and he is quite happy and no disaster impending . Stylish Memphis went beautifully from the draw. Beat the Oaks winner last week when draws were better. Plus it was Nathan training. Smooth Deal failed last week no surprise. Ranked about '40th' in stable and hasn't won for nearly a year. just not that good really. The Fixer, race distance a bit short of his best. He went well. First 4 home all kiwi bred top class horses racing well. Cash and Flow went 1.49 last week .!!?!?!? and still didn't win this. Well done Barry Purdon with his horse instead. Oscar Bonevena still learning and that was a tricky race. MMetro was under pressure as well. Winterfell beat him recently anyway. Self Assured has 2 x 2nds after winning Auckland Cup that were both grand runs. Home in 54 seconds last night behind a very under-rated and potentially best Aussie horse in 'Lochinvar Art' 6 lengths clear of 3rd horse !!amazing !! Whitesocks indeed had his lucky moment in the sun last week Ballarat Cup, as did you see Chase Auckland's late finishes at Ballarat and Cambridge?. Brilliant !!! So NO Disaster anywhere . maybe not bringing Amazing Deam over to win VIC Oaks was surprising. Cleaned up those first 2 at Akld. You missed one big thing - - I had no mates out there - No friends / stablemates to help each other out - No soft drag into the race(s) - All too tough on your own Edited January 26, 2020 by LongOwner 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 26, 2020 Share Posted January 26, 2020 17 minutes ago, LongOwner said: You missed one big thing - - I had no mates out there - No friends / stablemates to help each other out - No soft drag into the race(s) - All too tough on your own Hahaha Well his record in Oz isn't too bad in recent times. Winning 2 of the last 3 Interdominions run over here.(Perth) 2 of the last 4 Miracle miles in 1.47 and change. Those are our 2 biggest races. although Nat might have driven one of those. p.s If you are good enough to have stablemates / friends/ mates / drags into a race, pretty smart to use them . ???? How well is Anthony Butt going now. ?? What a grand kiwi driver he has been and now trainer as well winning both the Vic Derby (drove winner, training 1st and 3rd) and the Vic Oaks drive on Dr Susan. we are privileged to have such talent in Aus these days. Happy Australia day !! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 16 hours ago, Gammalite said: Hahaha Well his record in Oz isn't too bad in recent times. Winning 2 of the last 3 Interdominions run over here.(Perth) 2 of the last 4 Miracle miles in 1.47 and change. Those are our 2 biggest races. although Nat might have driven one of those. p.s If you are good enough to have stablemates / friends/ mates / drags into a race, pretty smart to use them . ???? How well is Anthony Butt going now. ?? What a grand kiwi driver he has been and now trainer as well winning both the Vic Derby (drove winner, training 1st and 3rd) and the Vic Oaks drive on Dr Susan. we are privileged to have such talent in Aus these days. Happy Australia day !! Yip Ants is all class....been my fave driver for years and years.A shame that things dried up for him here,which is what lead him to Aussie.And has definitely been on fire training wise as well,long may it continue. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 Yip Ants is all class....been my fave driver for years and years.A shame that things dried up for him here,which is what lead him to Aussie.And has definitely been on fire training wise as well,long may it continue. 1 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 On 26/01/2020 at 6:27 PM, Gammalite said: Have checked on Mark and he is quite happy and no disaster impending . Stylish Memphis went beautifully from the draw. Beat the Oaks winner last week when draws were better. Plus it was Nathan training. Smooth Deal failed last week no surprise. Ranked about '40th' in stable and hasn't won for nearly a year. just not that good really. The Fixer, race distance a bit short of his best. He went well. First 4 home all kiwi bred top class horses racing well. Cash and Flow went 1.49 last week .!!?!?!? and still didn't win this. Well done Barry Purdon with his horse instead. Oscar Bonevena still learning and that was a tricky race. MMetro was under pressure as well. Winterfell beat him recently anyway. Self Assured has 2 x 2nds after winning Auckland Cup that were both grand runs. Home in 54 seconds last night behind a very under-rated and potentially best Aussie horse in 'Lochinvar Art' 6 lengths clear of 3rd horse !!amazing !! Whitesocks indeed had his lucky moment in the sun last week Ballarat Cup, as did you see Chase Auckland's late finishes at Ballarat and Cambridge?. Brilliant !!! So NO Disaster anywhere . maybe not bringing Amazing Deam over to win VIC Oaks was surprising. Cleaned up those first 2 at Akld. has the hand brake gone on?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: has the hand brake gone on?????? Looks like it. the recent run of getting beat in group races is unprecedented for the total domination era. as Martin pointed out can't get helping hand from stablemates when you have only one in the race. Although that didn't help them in the Ballarat cup. Speaking of the Ballarat cup Natalie's drive was absolutely woeful and noticed the oz stipes were asking questions there. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Blossom lady said: as Martin pointed out can't get helping hand from stablemates when you have only one in the race. Bloody Stablemates getting in the way, rotten things!!!. I am sure Mark would of won many more of your big races e.g the NZ CUP with Spankem, if other stable runners didn't get in the way. Lucky in the Interdominion trot final Akld no stablemates in the bloody way to stop Mark winning. Goooo Winterfell !!! As for the Pacing final, their were Purdons everywhere !! having backed Mark on Cruz Bromac I am bitterly disappointed all those stablemates/ brothers/ mates keep getting in the way ??? Am sure Mark would win more races otherwise than he already does without all this interference . AND YOU Say he is getting a helping hand ??? quite the opposite really Blossom . lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Blossom lady said: Although that didn't help them in the Ballarat cup. Speaking of the Ballarat cup Natalie's drive was absolutely woeful and noticed the oz stipes were asking questions there. You guys are harsh on your Champions.?? If she pulled out 3 wide a lap out to lead up the train do you think would still run a place ?? Probably not I would say. As it was, she would of won in another 10 to 20 m more (watch replay) and Nat has won 20 of 42 drives this season over there. That must be best strike rate ever , nearly all in feature races and an Interdominion Final win too for some icing. A lot of you guys want them (Allstars) to get beat so often in your posts, and when they do you grizzle about it ??? Com'on mate fair dinkum, fair shake of the sav. It was a deserved win by one of your own kiwis who worked hard to lead in the Ballarat Cup, and Deserved it ??? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Gammalite said: Bloody Stablemates getting in the way, rotten things!!!. I am sure Mark would of won many more of your big races e.g the NZ CUP with Spankem, if other stable runners didn't get in the way. Lucky in the Interdominion trot final Akld no stablemates in the bloody way to stop Mark winning. Goooo Winterfell !!! As for the Pacing final, their were Purdons everywhere !! having backed Mark on Cruz Bromac I am bitterly disappointed all those stablemates/ brothers/ mates keep getting in the way ??? Am sure Mark would win more races otherwise than he already does without all this interference . AND YOU Say he is getting a helping hand ??? quite the opposite really Blossom . lol For someone who claims that they were a ex horseman you are pretty clueless! About as good as your comprehension of English. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 6 hours ago, Gammalite said: You guys are harsh on your Champions.?? If she pulled out 3 wide a lap out to lead up the train do you think would still run a place ?? Probably not I would say. As it was, she would of won in another 10 to 20 m more (watch replay) and Nat has won 20 of 42 drives this season over there. That must be best strike rate ever , nearly all in feature races and an Interdominion Final win too for some icing. A lot of you guys want them (Allstars) to get beat so often in your posts, and when they do you grizzle about it ??? Com'on mate fair dinkum, fair shake of the sav. It was a deserved win by one of your own kiwis who worked hard to lead in the Ballarat Cup, and Deserved it ??? You can't have watched many group races the last few years as there are many instances of all star horses doing the impossible 3 wide and winning. To most honest people those performances defy logic. yes it was good for Greg hope to win Ballarat cup. One for one of the more honest guy in nz harness racing. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Basil Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 8 hours ago, Gammalite said: Bloody Stablemates getting in the way, rotten things!!!. I am sure Mark would of won many more of your big races e.g the NZ CUP with Spankem, if other stable runners didn't get in the way. Lucky in the Interdominion trot final Akld no stablemates in the bloody way to stop Mark winning. Goooo Winterfell !!! As for the Pacing final, their were Purdons everywhere !! having backed Mark on Cruz Bromac I am bitterly disappointed all those stablemates/ brothers/ mates keep getting in the way ??? Am sure Mark would win more races otherwise than he already does without all this interference . AND YOU Say he is getting a helping hand ??? quite the opposite really Blossom . lol You're wasting your time Gammalite. With a few honourable exceptions, the knuckle draggers on here — particularly the teenage girl who specialises in all sorts of malicious insinuations about everyone else but then turns feral when her current crush is criticised for anti-social behaviour — loathe the All Stars with a passion, never missing an opportunity to put the boot in. After Saturday night I thought the bitchiness would be out in full force, and checking in today I can see I'm not wrong! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 4 hours ago, Blossom lady said: For someone who claims that they were a ex horseman you are pretty clueless! About as good as your comprehension of English. Thank you for this important information, maybe there is a kiwi dialect I don't understand????? Nothing wrong with being an ex horseman. Had a lot of fun and went a LOT of places in younger days. Yes I am clueless as to your attitude, sorry about that, your attitude towards Champions of this great sport needs some work. Before Natalie joined ALLSTARS she was here in Queensland, and won Miracles Mile and 4 (yes that is four) Interdominions with BLACKS A FAKE , as well as Vic Cup I think, with performances that DEFY LOGIC as you say. so nothing new. Always a Champion. What would the amazing Blossom done differently that wasn"t a woeful drive in the Ballarat Cup ????? Looped the field ?, outstay Greg Hopes horse? power away to victory ?? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted January 27, 2020 Author Share Posted January 27, 2020 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: Thank you for this important information, maybe there is a kiwi dialect I don't understand????? Nothing wrong with being an ex horseman. Had a lot of fun and went a LOT of places in younger days. Yes I am clueless as to your attitude, sorry about that, your attitude towards Champions of this great sport needs some work. Before Natalie joined ALLSTARS she was here in Queensland, and won Miracles Mile and 4 (yes that is four) Interdominions with BLACKS A FAKE , as well as Vic Cup I think, with performances that DEFY LOGIC as you say. so nothing new. Always a Champion. What would the amazing Blossom done differently that wasn"t a woeful drive in the Ballarat Cup ????? Looped the field ?, outstay Greg Hopes horse? power away to victory ?? Once again you can't comprehend what's written in front of you. As for BAF , did the stable clean up the majority of group races for a number of years at that time? BAF would seem to be a one off for Rasmussen at that time. Now all stars churn out "superstars" one after the other. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 27, 2020 Share Posted January 27, 2020 5 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: Once again you can't comprehend what's written in front of you. As for BAF , did the stable clean up the majority of group races for a number of years at that time? BAF would seem to be a one off for Rasmussen at that time. Now all stars churn out "superstars" one after the other. What did you write 'once again' apart from the very unimportant " I am clueless and about my comprehension of English??? " Why not stick to the topic and answer my question about your 'woeful drive in Ballarat Cup' comment? . How many races Have YOU driven? I have driven hundreds of races, and can confidently say Mark and Nat would beat me 99 out of a 100 races. In the other one I would knock them down in a desperate bid to get a victory. hahahaha have fun trying ?? They are Superstars. To answer yours, Nat was married to Grant Dixon and YES they did indeed clean-up most of the Sires stakes age group races for many years (Grant still is) in Queensland, from being fine horsepeople, and from having the backing of multi-millionaire breeder / owner Kevin and Kaye Seymour , (so not un-like ALLSTARS in that regard with millionaires to bankroll the success). Blacks A Fake not Nat's only winner mate, The success for Grant has continued with Colt Thirty One and Governor Jujon in recent times. (not to mention 340 wins last season) Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 On 1/26/2020 at 4:18 AM, Blossom lady said: 5 beaten favourites driven by marky boy last night Apologies Blossom mate, as it appears I went off topic as your original post is about Mark's , not Nat's driving at start of thread. Well Yes, what a surprise for you that is I guess. 2 of them he is not listed as Training. Don't panic this run of 'Outs' won't last too long lol. We need your enjoyment of Champions not to waver. On 1/26/2020 at 8:24 PM, LongOwner said: You missed one big thing - - I had no mates out there - No friends / stablemates to help each other out - No soft drag into the race(s) - All too tough on your own LongOwner fancies Mark can't drive a race without this criteria. Don't like his driving ability ?? 'No Mates out there', No mates on here either it seems lol, Mark is doing it tough it seems. IMO he drives 'quite' well . Plenty of worse drivers I can think of to pick on. hahahhhha With the Great Southern Star Trot ( our biggest trotting race) coming up this week , a great case at hand.!! (against your criteria LongOwner). Last year Mark catch drove an Aussie 'Dance Craze' to victory with another brilliant drive (20-1 odds) to win our biggest trot, and beat Temporale. Shame Mark has 'OscarB' there, as he could do it again this week with Dance Craze?! Dance Craze beat Tornado Valley just the other Day at Ballarat too, so he is in form ok. No actually, doesn't Temporale deserve it? after great win last week in Dullard Cup, and the brilliant second in the GSStar a year ago for TonyH. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OLDWHITEMAN Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 22 hours ago, Mardy said: Yip Ants is all class....been my fave driver for years and years.A shame that things dried up for him here,which is what lead him to Aussie.And has definitely been on fire training wise as well,long may it continue. Has A. Butt taken over the training from T. Butt? I haven't seen much about Timothy Butt lately, his team seems to be going poorly. Perhaps Anthony got all the good horses now? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 24 minutes ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: Has A. Butt taken over the training from T. Butt? I haven't seen much about Timothy Butt lately, his team seems to be going poorly. Perhaps Anthony got all the good horses now? Tim Butt trained runners are still has some going around . My Field Marshall went around in Ballarat Cup the other day. Only a shadow of former self with 3 starts without winning this summer, since had Heart Attack of some kind and pulled up in Miracle Mile 2019 a year ago. 2 years ago My Field Marshall won the 2018 Miracle Mile in 1.46.9 so is still the FASTEST horse ever in Southern Hemisphere. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 1 hour ago, OLDWHITEMAN said: Has A. Butt taken over the training from T. Butt? I haven't seen much about Timothy Butt lately, his team seems to be going poorly. Perhaps Anthony got all the good horses now? no Tim is training winners every week 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted January 28, 2020 Share Posted January 28, 2020 8 hours ago, Basil said: You're wasting your time Gammalite. With a few honourable exceptions, the knuckle draggers on here — particularly the teenage girl who specialises in all sorts of malicious insinuations about everyone else but then turns feral when her current crush is criticised for anti-social behaviour — loathe the All Stars with a passion, never missing an opportunity to put the boot in. After Saturday night I thought the bitchiness would be out in full force, and checking in today I can see I'm not wrong! basil you should make your next trip a visit to spec savers Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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