hunterthepunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: Why was he forced from his career? riu mafia???? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Noodlum said: I disagree. We are not privy to all the information that was available to the Judge. It isn't as if she got off scot free. Of course the prosecutor could have asked for a review of the sentence. Contrast that with what has happened to McGrath. Even though he had no case to answer in the Court he has been financially broken and forced from his career. As well as suffering constant harassment by the RIU. Wounding with reckless disregard is a very serious offence,at least it normally is seen that way. You can be sentenced up to 7 years in prison. So to discharge someone without conviction,whatever the defendants circumstances, seems to give little consideration of the impact on the victim. I think the article is detailed enough to conclude that. 10 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: Why was he forced from his career? Exactly. Its a misrepresentation of the facts. Mcgrath continued to train and only gave up when he was allegedly observed tubing a horse on raceday. He's the one that did that,no one else. Besides,as has been said before,the burden of proof is different in the courts from in racing . Edited June 5, 2020 by the galah 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 3 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: riu mafia???? Because he was a cheat and got caught red handed! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, the galah said: Wounding with reckless disregard is a very serious offence,at least it normally is seen that way. You can be sentenced up to 7 years in prison. So to discharge someone without conviction,whatever the defendants circumstances, seems to give little consideration of the impact on the victim. I think the article is detailed enough to conclude that. Exactly. Its a misrepresentation of the facts. Mcgrath continued to train and only gave up when he was allegedly observed tubing a horse on raceday. Besides,as has been said before,the burden of proof is different in the courts from in racing . say something that is true you lier there was no tubing of any horse Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 15 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: It certainly was no surprise as to who the judge was in this case. He has a long history of being soft on crims! Back up there. He threw the INCA case out I.e. no crime was proven. Quite different to giving what you view to be a soft sentence. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Blossom lady said: Because he was a cheat and got caught red handed! doing what blossom?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 Just now, hunterthepunter said: say something that is true you lier there was no tubing of any horse I said allegedly tubing. So your telling us he did not do so?. So what did they observe him do. How about you tell us. Or are you simply playing with words. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, the galah said: Besides,as has been said before,the burden of proof is different in the courts from in racing . Then why the bloody hell did the RIU engage their Police mates? Just to wear the flak jackets and radios when doing the raids? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, the galah said: I said allegedly tubing. So your telling us he did not do so?. So what did they observe him do. How about you tell us. Or are you simply playing with words. not playing with words I no what went on Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 16 minutes ago, Noodlum said: Back up there. He threw the INCA case out I.e. no crime was proven. Quite different to giving what you view to be a soft sentence. Judge neave has a long history of being soft on crims! i was not referring to Inca here! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 20 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: doing what blossom?? Letting his mate George attempt to treat horse on Raceday. also lets not forget his history with blue magic! Edited June 5, 2020 by Blossom lady Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the galah Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 (edited) 15 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: not playing with words I no what went on Of the 5 charges he has to face, one is attempting to administer a prohibited substance and another of obstructing a racecourse inspectors attempt to seize evidence. It has been reported in the media that equipment used for tubing a horse was seized. But your saying he did not tube a horse.Time will tell the exact detail. Personally i don't know why Mcgrath just doesn't admit that he was doing something outside the rules,accept the penalty,then come back when his time is up.I know that may seem a simplistic view,but sometimes taking the simplest path is the best option. Edited June 5, 2020 by the galah Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 5 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: Judge neave has a long history of being soft on crims! i was not referring to Inca here! Then why bring it up in this context? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 1 minute ago, Blossom lady said: Letting his mate George attempt to teat horse on Raceday. also lets not forget his history with blue magic! who was the other trainer in blue magic?? attempting to do what?? and treat with what?? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, the galah said: Of the 5 charges he has to face, one is attempting to administer a prohibited substance and another of obstructing a racecourse inspectors attempt to seize evidence. It has been reported in the media that equipment used for tubing a horse was seized. But your saying he did not tube a horse.Time will tell the exact detail. Personally i don't know why Mcgrath just doesn't accept that he was doing something he shouldn't,accept the penalty,then come back when his time is up.I know that may seem a simplistic view,but sometimes taking the simplest path is the best option. sounds like the media love good story to sell papers I can tell you no horses were tubed so get your faxes right before you post lies Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 12 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: who was the other trainer in blue magic?? attempting to do what?? and treat with what?? We are not talking about Purdon here. So are you saying Nigel is innocent here? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 2 minutes ago, Blossom lady said: We are not talking about Purdon here. So are you saying Nigel is innocent here? yep Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blossom lady Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 17 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: yep Ha ha. Why throw your licence in if you are innocent? also why would his biggest supporter say that he can no longer support him if he's innocent? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 5, 2020 Author Share Posted June 5, 2020 9 hours ago, Blossom lady said: Why throw your licence in if you are innocent? Probably because he has had a gutsful of being hounded. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 I remember the amish mafia, they got the job done, and liked horses to. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted June 5, 2020 Share Posted June 5, 2020 12 hours ago, Blossom lady said: Ha ha. Why throw your licence in if you are innocent? also why would his biggest supporter say that he can no longer support him if he's innocent? so who is the biggest supporter then?????? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 19 hours ago, Blossom lady said: also lets not forget his history with blue magic! are you sure "he had a history with blue magic" ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted June 6, 2020 Share Posted June 6, 2020 (edited) 7 hours ago, hunterthepunter said: so who is the biggest supporter then?????? nickys logic owner kyle selinger ? Edited June 6, 2020 by Rangatira Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Long stop Posted June 7, 2020 Share Posted June 7, 2020 On 6/5/2020 at 3:46 PM, the galah said: I'm saying the police make decisions relating to their jurisdiction and the riu make decisions relating to their jurisdiction. If their evidence gathering overlaps then its common sense to pool resources. Why should they pool resources? Shouldnt they be indipendent of each other? Sounds like you work for the riu 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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