Flagship uberalles Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Story on hrnz website today 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Food issue? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 6 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Food issue? meant to be drug smoking stable hands two of them on the truck hard to beleave 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Winterfell is on the list......wonder what someone on here is thinking.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richie Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 20 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: meant to be drug smoking stable hands two of them on the truck hard to beleave Why is it hard to believe If 70%of young people try drugs i would imagine that their be a few stablehands would have tried it at times. Not us in our day though ah Hunterthepunter,we only earnt enough to drink and gamble and never thought of doing drugs 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 2 minutes ago, Richie said: Why is it hard to believe It's hard to believe because those stablehands work in a leading stable so one would expect they are of good character. They are also responsible for the wellbeing of millions of dollars of horseflesh who could win hundreds of thousands of dollars in the next few days. One would have hoped they would feel some responsibility towards their employers, the owners and, last but not least, the horses themselves. Who was to get the horses off the float? Employable? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 Education, support and a proper wage. I bet you these kids love horses and are good with them. Not their fault they are low on the food chain. Education!!! 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted May 30, 2018 Share Posted May 30, 2018 51 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Winterfell is on the list......wonder what someone on here is thinking.... He He He He. Sorry that was rather disingenuous of me. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Portfolio Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Surely, no horse will be scratched because of this. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 20 minutes ago, Portfolio said: Surely, no horse will be scratched because of this. It is a storm in a teacup that disappears at 4 pm today. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flagship uberalles Posted May 31, 2018 Author Share Posted May 31, 2018 it will just come across as how good and honest the all stars are for informing everyone one of a potential contamination!! The p.r bullshit rolls on 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 An article from The Herald by Mick G A failed drug test by a now former staff member of New Zealand's biggest racing stable was behind the shut down of TAB markets for Saturday's Harness Jewels meetings. But both the trainers involved and racing officials expect all 10 horses who were drug tested today for fears of contamination will be cleared to start at the $1,275,000 meeting. Nine horses from the leading stable of Mark Purdon and Natalie Rasmussen, known as the All Stars, and a horse that travelled from Canterbury to Waikato with them last Sunday were tested by the Racing Integrity Unit yesterday after Purdon raised concerns they could have been in contact with two staff members who were suspected of recreational drug use. The concerns were first raised after the staff arrived with the horses on Monday and after seeking legal advice, Purdon and Rasmussen asked the two staff, who had not been employed by the stable long, to undergo drug testing. One refused, the other supplied samples to a registered drug tester which were later found to be positive to at least two recreational drugs. Both staff have since been dismissed. "We didn't really know what to do next but we knew we had to advise the Racing Integrity Unit for our safety in case something went wrong and to make sure the horses hadn't been contaminated," said Purdon, the long-time champion trainer in New Zealand. The RIU took urine samples from all nine horse trained by the All Stars today and one, Dibaba, trained by fellow trainers Terry and Glenys Chmiel as it was on the same transporter north. The RIU also asked the TAB to suspend betting on all the six Jewels races which have horses who have been tested in them and they are likely to remain suspended until results of the tests come back on Friday afternoon. With pre-raceday fixed odds betting only a fraction of total turnover the suspension is unlikely to greatly affect overall turnover on the meeting. "It is very unfortunate and has made for a long week but Natalie and I believe we have handled the matter the only way we could both legally as employers and also in regards to our obligations to the industry. "But we are hopeful and confident the horses haven't been contaminated and will all be cleared to race." The Harness Jewels feature nine group one races for a minimum of $125,000 to be run at Cambridge Raceway with a crowd of up to 5000 expected. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 3 hours ago, Flagship uberalles said: it will just come across as how good and honest the all stars are for informing everyone one of a potential contamination!! The p.r bullshit rolls on Yes it will and they have done the honest thing but it will be blown out of all proportion. They still had on their staff, drug users who were in charge of their horses. Also interesting in the original release was the list of Purdon horses but not Dibaba. Maybe she didn't count for much and was an afterthought for the All Stars. Saving their own bacon before others. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kakama Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 Most honest thing I have witnessed in harness racing.....good on purdons, some others should take notice. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 17 minutes ago, Kakama said: Most honest thing I have witnessed in harness racing.....good on purdons, some others should take notice. Very true, Kakama. But in my view, it is not being honest as such, it is more a protocol thing - standard practice. It was hardly as though they were giving themselves up and admitting anything. They all tend to plead innocence and ignorance when actually caught. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 52 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: But in my view, it is not being honest as such, Mate. 9 horses ,$100,000 Group One races, a plethora of owners at risk of seeing there investment down the gurgler. !!! I would say protocol was the last thing on their mind. Being true and honest to those that provide your bread and butter would be a better summation. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, globederby12 said: Mate. 9 horses ,$100,000 Group One races, a plethora of owners at risk of seeing there investment down the gurgler. !!! What alternative did they have other than doing what they did? Honesty to me is when you have a choice, in my eyes they didn't. Mark Purdon and Natalie Rasmussen are very savvy and intelligent people from what I can see - they did what they had to do, no choice involved if you are clever. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 What is your opinion OLDWHITEMAN? I have given mine, right or wrong, I don't know. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
globederby12 Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 6 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: What alternative did they have other than doing what they did? Honesty to me is when you have a choice, in my eyes they didn't. Mark Purdon and Natalie Rasmussen are very savvy and intelligent people from what I can see - they did what they had to do, no choice involved if you are clever. Im not disagreeing Happy. They had no alternative. But in light of the huge investments driving the AS barn, I think protocol took a back seat. Lets hope Winterfonged goes badly.? 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 better still, I hope Winterfonged is 'ALL FONGED UP AND NOWHERE TO GO' Be a sight wouldn't it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 9 minutes ago, globederby12 said: I think protocol took a back seat. I would just hope (dreaming) that what the All Stars did would be normal practice by any stable. Maybe, very naive, but in a perfect world one would hope. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 7 hours ago, Happy Sunrise said: I would just hope (dreaming) that what the All Stars did would be normal practice by any stable. Maybe, very naive, but in a perfect world one would hope. It’s not thou, How many times do we see positives after race swabbing, then trainers dream up all sorts of excuses after the shit hits the fan. When have we had a trainer say BEFORE a big race- I think we should contact authorities as I’m not sure if that food is contaminated ? Never, would rather see if it wins,collect off tote, worth trying to get away with it. Sorry, but when big money is up, all 3 codes out to win, some at all cost. History around the world confirms this 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 its just a made up bullshit story who in there rite mined would send all horses up there with new stable hands with horses worth that much 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 12 hours ago, globederby12 said: Im not disagreeing Happy. They had no alternative. But in light of the huge investments driving the AS barn, I think protocol took a back seat. Lets hope Winterfonged goes badly.? good luck globe hope you trash winterfonged hehe Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted May 31, 2018 Share Posted May 31, 2018 33 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: its just a made up bullshit story who in there rite mined would send all horses up there with new stable hands with horses worth that much Personally tend to agree with you Hunter that there is more to it than passive smoking from young stable employees. Find it hard to believe that if it was hooch smoking, then it would contaminate horses blood readings, but who knows, it does seem pretty fishy! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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