Newmarket Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 How the fuck has he managed to keep his job? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted June 26, 2020 Share Posted June 26, 2020 Employee not a contractor. Although I have always found him one of the best. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 His calls the other day were very off. Lacked enthusiam, very slow in the call. I understand he was mourning the loss of his friend, but it was dire to listen to. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 28, 2020 Author Share Posted June 28, 2020 5 hours ago, SLB2.0 said: His calls the other day were very off. Lacked enthusiam, very slow in the call. I understand he was mourning the loss of his friend, but it was dire to listen to. He should go, they have moved on many that were good, no need to keep somebody well past their use by date. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzhorseracing Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 The biggest deterrent to NZ racing are people like you who post negatively with no positive feedback. When someone looks to get into a racing community, they'll stumble across this forum board and walk away... I know, because I did. Mark Rosonowski is a gun. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 8 hours ago, nzhorseracing said: When someone looks to get into a racing community, they'll stumble across this forum board and walk away... I know, because I did. Good point. Why let a potential new owner the truth of what they will be getting into before they take the plunge? Keep them in the dark full and of false promise until they're in so deep they can't get out. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 9 hours ago, nzhorseracing said: The biggest deterrent to NZ racing are people like you who post negatively with no positive feedback. When someone looks to get into a racing community, they'll stumble across this forum board and walk away... I know, because I did. Mark Rosonowski is a gun. Most people "looking to get into racing" are probably in the younger category. What's the biggest turn off for young people? Listening to older people who seemingly have lost the enjoyment factor of racing. That is why Racing.com is so much better. They have enthusiasm and a sense of youth (without being teenagers). Racing and betting is exciting to them, and they don't sound like a depressed punter at your local TAB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 4 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: Most people "looking to get into racing" are probably in the younger category. "Looking to get into racing" or punting? I'm not sure that many are wanting to get into OWNING a horse. 6 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: What's the biggest turn off for young people? Listening to older people who seemingly have lost the enjoyment factor of racing. You are making an assumption that young people EVER listen to older people. 11 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: That is why Racing.com is so much better. They have enthusiasm and a sense of youth (without being teenagers). You are forgetting that Racing.com is the industry funded website for racing in the state of Victoria. As a website its functionality is appalling especially considering the extraordinary amount of money that has been spent on it. However I'm enthusiastic about Australian racing - quality fields racing on many interesting tracks and if you are an owner good stakes. As for Rosso - we've got too used to the shiny looking clones that sound good but say nothing. If you stop and listen Rosso actually knows what he is talking about. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 Re: Racing.com I was more meaning their live coverage, as opposed to the website. I agree, the website is below average. Mark definitely knows what he is talking about, but he had a very poor day last week. Prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt as we all have off days. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzhorseracing Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 I didn't have a connection to anyone on course, when I grew an interest in racing, I looked online for like minded people. I didn't immediately find what I was looking for, but in NZ all i could find was negativity and people bashing each other for no good reason. This also happens in Australia, but I knit picked and found a few like minded people who gave me insight, that lead me to having a share in a syndicated horse, not in NZ but in Australia. But here we are, a thread opened to belittle Mark Rosonowski, another example of bringing down one of the biggest contributors to NZ Racing, for what? are you trying to hurt racing or him? He offers genuine insight and provocative information which makes you want to know more about the game. Racing.com is brilliant, it's the best in the world for racing, but they do 1-3 venues a day? they're a specialist product with what looks to be an unlimited budget. 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: As for Rosso - we've got too used to the shiny looking clones that sound good but say nothing. If you stop and listen Rosso actually knows what he is talking about. And across all 3 codes. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 53 minutes ago, nzhorseracing said: I didn't have a connection to anyone on course, when I grew an interest in racing, I looked online for like minded people. I didn't immediately find what I was looking for, but in NZ all i could find was negativity and people bashing each other for no good reason. This also happens in Australia, but I knit picked and found a few like minded people who gave me insight, that lead me to having a share in a syndicated horse, not in NZ but in Australia. But here we are, a thread opened to belittle Mark Rosonowski, another example of bringing down one of the biggest contributors to NZ Racing, for what? are you trying to hurt racing or him? He offers genuine insight and provocative information which makes you want to know more about the game. Racing.com is brilliant, it's the best in the world for racing, but they do 1-3 venues a day? they're a specialist product with what looks to be an unlimited budget. If you think racing.com is brilliant you live in an igloo on floating ice......it's full of millennials and no hopers/has beens. Most over here don't rate it, it's the mouthpiece for RVL, and they have no credibility.......if you doubt me, just read the courts judgement for trainer Kate Goodrich against them.....they are/were misogynists and bullies and could't organise a root in a brothel. There are plenty of great forums and websites here, my fav is www.thoroughbredvillage.com.au where quite a few are interested in NZ racing....funny enough.....god bless em 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nzhorseracing Posted June 28, 2020 Share Posted June 28, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said: If you think racing.com is brilliant you live in an igloo on floating ice......it's full of millennials and no hopers/has beens. Most over here don't rate it, it's the mouthpiece for RVL, and they have no credibility.......if you doubt me, just read the courts judgement for trainer Kate Goodrich against them.....they are/were misogynists and bullies and could't organise a root in a brothel. There are plenty of great forums and websites here, my fav is www.thoroughbredvillage.com.au where quite a few are interested in NZ racing....funny enough.....god bless em Yeah, sorry - when I reference racing.com I'm mostly talking about their live vision and access to replays, I can quickly access parade ring, preliminaries & race coverage, their website and app make it effortless. In regards to other more professional details I don't pay close attention. Edited June 28, 2020 by nzhorseracing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 On 28/06/2020 at 11:23 PM, nzhorseracing said: The biggest deterrent to NZ racing are people like you who post negatively with no positive feedback. When someone looks to get into a racing community, they'll stumble across this forum board and walk away... I know, because I did. Mark Rosonowski is a gun. Thanks Mark, Hang on in as long as you can. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 29, 2020 Author Share Posted June 29, 2020 Look nothing against Rozzo, I just question him being employed ahead of others. Its clear they want to start from scratch, but if he is the future, we are in big trouble. He should be in the past. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 50 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Look nothing against Rozzo, I just question him being employed ahead of others. Its clear they want to start from scratch, but if he is the future, we are in big trouble. He should be in the past. So who do you suggest? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Maybe Rosso had been told about this: On course presenters gone and now it’s the commentators who could be studio-bound By Barry Lichter • 29 June 2020 Some greyhound meetings next month will be held with no on-course commentator in the latest cost-cutting move by the TAB. In what could be a sign of things to come, Trackside will have a commentator in its Christchurch studio calling three meetings in the Central Districts using only a TV monitor. With regular commentator Mark Rosanowski on leave, and the other former CD caller Darryl Robinson among those let go, RITA finds itself stuck for a replacement. So Andy McCook, one of the contractors who fell victim to widespread cuts by the Racing Industry Transition Agency, will call the meetings at Wanganui and Palmerston North in the second week of July. McCook, who has been a presenter and acted as a stand-in commentator off and on for the last four or five years in Canterbury, believes he can do the job without leaving viewers thinking they are being short-changed. Andy McCook, left, will stand in for Mark Rosanowski and call from the studio in Christchurch.It won’t be the first time he has called a meeting remotely. When a flight delay saw versatile caller Jason Teaz unable to get to Dunedin one day he team tagged with Trevor Wilkes in the Addington commentator’s box, calling the Forbury Park card while Wilkes did the local meeting. Unusually, Wilkes routinely calls off his TV monitor but McCook says for accuracy’s sake he’d much prefer to look out the window and use his binoculars. “The only problem is if dogs start getting checked and get a mile off the leaders, or fall over. “But I’m hoping there will be enough camera angles to make it work.” Given the TAB has cut the number of cameras it now uses to cover meetings that’s not a given but McCook is positive about the challenge ahead. McCook says he assumes the TAB will make arrangements for on-course punters to hear the commentaries. “This could be the way of the future and it’s not the end of the world. When I first started, I used to practice at home calling meetings watching the TV.” McCook says the TAB is ready “to rock ’n’ roll, having set up everything he needs in the Christchurch studio and he plans to have a test run soon. “I wouldn’t want to go in blind so I’ll be sneaking in to get some practice first.” McCook, a keen student of form, says he’s also got plenty of time to bone up on his CD greyhounds so he can analyse fields with at least some authority. It’s all over in the blink of an eye but calling greyhound races off the TV is easier than horse races.McCook believes it’s harder calling horse races off the TV than dog races as the field can string out much further and the horses are smaller with cameras now further away. Other commentators have been forced to rely on TV pictures in recent years when emergencies have arisen. Matt Cross called a West Coast meeting from the studio one day when Mark McNamara couldn’t get there and Aaron White called a trots card at Manawatu when he was fog-bound and stood in at the last minute for a sick Tony Lee at a Hastings gallops meeting. Similar problems will arise in Auckland next month with long-time caller Peter Earley dismissed and White, now expected to commentate on dogs, on leave. The TAB initially rostered cut gallops contractor Bruce Sherwin for July 12 at Manukau Stadium - he once called dog races in Macau - but George Simon will now do the meeting. It will make for a busy week for the Waikato-based Simon - he’s ditched the Te Aroha trials on Tuesday but will still be at the Cambridge dogs on Thursday and Ellerslie gallops on Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Sugrue Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 'Work from Home' Technology is the way of the future....Zoom etc When is the JCA going to be working out of a common Bunker.........they gallivant round the Countryside doing buggar all....costing the Industry a fortune 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 33 minutes ago, Roger Sugrue said: 'Work from Home' Technology is the way of the future....Zoom etc When is the JCA going to be working out of a common Bunker.........they gallivant round the Countryside doing buggar all....costing the Industry a fortune Are you serious? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 It could possibly work for a JCA hearing however having recently seen a Court hearing done that way it doesn't really work that well. I don't think it serves justice very well. As for the RIU they have other functions to perform that should be done live on course. Commentators - good ones don't just sit in the commentary box all day. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Sugrue Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 why drive 5 hours....stay overnight......and spend the day in an Office at the races........when you can drive 5 minutes down the road and spend it in an especially set up Bunker..........watch races, see all camera angles....communicate with all parties via Zoom NRL been doing it for ages........any NRL controversy centres around the decisions given.......the technology delivering the pictures seems fine I see on the News just now the Apec Conference here next year is going virtual Perhaps the $$$ saved could fund more racemeetings......well how silly would that be Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 15 minutes ago, Roger Sugrue said: why drive 5 hours....stay overnight......and spend the day in an Office at the races Because the RIU/JCA have other raceday duties to perform. Arguably they don't get out of the office enough now as it is. Will they do a virtual walk of the track before each meeting or after raceday concerns are raised? 16 minutes ago, Roger Sugrue said: when you can drive 5 minutes down the road and spend it in an especially set up Bunker..........watch races, see all camera angles....communicate with all parties via Zoom That comes at a cost. Extra telecommunications equipment, network equipment and special networks. Plus backup for each part of the solution. We are not talking your home internet setup here. 19 minutes ago, Roger Sugrue said: NRL been doing it for ages........any NRL controversy centres around the decisions given. Not true. There is a growing understanding occurring that the technology and the constraints imposes are stopping the growth of the NRL. You can't hold an NRL game at an alternative venue unless it has all the technology installed. We see the same constraint here now with where race meetings are able to be held. 23 minutes ago, Roger Sugrue said: Perhaps the $$$ saved could fund more racemeetings......well how silly would that be You make an assumption that it saves cost. Have you see any of the business cases that Saundry refers to? Overall I would say it adds cost and moves us forward to a higher cost production model we can't afford. But I guess that doesn't worry the people in Manawatu who are going to put an AWT on top of a swamp. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Are they doing the bunker type thing anywhere in OZ racing? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roger Sugrue Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 Ohh Chief.......is that a Segway LOL........I've no idea what the people of Manawatu are doing.......like you I read it in the Media...pop along to our annual Ash Poh meeting.....that's about it really .... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted June 30, 2020 Share Posted June 30, 2020 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Because the RIU/JCA have other raceday duties to perform. Arguably they don't get out of the office enough now as it is. Will they do a virtual walk of the track before each meeting or after raceday concerns are raised? That comes at a cost. Extra telecommunications equipment, network equipment and special networks. Plus backup for each part of the solution. We are not talking your home internet setup here. Not true. There is a growing understanding occurring that the technology and the constraints imposes are stopping the growth of the NRL. You can't hold an NRL game at an alternative venue unless it has all the technology installed. We see the same constraint here now with where race meetings are able to be held. You make an assumption that it saves cost. Have you see any of the business cases that Saundry refers to? Overall I would say it adds cost and moves us forward to a higher cost production model we can't afford. But I guess that doesn't worry the people in Manawatu who are going to put an AWT on top of a swamp Aren't we meant to have drained the swamp? Not Awapuni, that other one, just north of Welly and south of Lower Hutt. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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