Chief Stipe Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 MEETING NEWS Jason Waddell Not Riding at Hawke’s Bay Jason Waddell has been stood down by the RIU until further notice and will not be riding at Hawke’s Bay on Saturday 19 September. Replacement riders as follows: R7 #1 Vigor Winner - Troy Harris R10 #13 Jennifer Eccles - Matthew Cameron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 I thought he was going to Aus. ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Can't go to Aussie when the boarders are shut. Have wondered what is up with Jason,as there have been more than one occasion where he hasn't fulfilled his engagements,and obviously hasn't ridden much in the new season. I hope everything is ok with him,as he's far too good not to be out there. I did also read that the RIU have stood down Cameron Lammas as well from tomorrow. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 55 minutes ago, Mardy said: Can't go to Aussie when the boarders are shut. Have wondered what is up with Jason,as there have been more than one occasion where he hasn't fulfilled his engagements,and obviously hasn't ridden much in the new season. I hope everything is ok with him,as he's far too good not to be out there. I did also read that the RIU have stood down Cameron Lammas as well from tomorrow. Do you think it's something catching? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 Apparently from what i read both Cameron and Jason refused a drug test.So i'm guessing that would be grounds to been stood down. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 But Chris Johnson is allowed to ride after returning a negative drug test (yes that is what alcohol is). Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 41 minutes ago, Mark D said: But Chris Johnson is allowed to ride after returning a negative drug test (yes that is what alcohol is). Yes. A negative one. Refusing testing comes under a different rule and his original stand down was more of an indiscretion than anything. Well below the legal driving limit. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 Are the RIU suddenly short of things to do? Or is there a new testing regime? Increased frequency? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Are the RIU suddenly short of things to do? Or is there a new testing regime? Increased frequency? Seems like it. Even did pre-race horse blood testing at Riccarton last week. Thommo will be pleased. Maybe the pokies are going well and they can afford it? Edited September 18, 2020 by curious 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 1 minute ago, curious said: Seems like it. Even did pre-race horse blood testing at Riccarton last week. Thommo will be pleased. Maybe the pokies are going well and they can afford it? Is the new management structure in place and have changes been made? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted September 18, 2020 Author Share Posted September 18, 2020 3 minutes ago, curious said: Seems like it. Even did pre-race horse blood testing at Riccarton last week. Thommo will be pleased. Yeah na. Thomarse will still be fretting about them not twittering! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 18, 2020 Share Posted September 18, 2020 They are maybe getting their act together to pre-empt the implementation of the Burgess report when Murrihy gets here to do that? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 1 hour ago, curious said: Yes. A negative one. Refusing testing comes under a different rule and his original stand down was more of an indiscretion than anything. Well below the legal driving limit. Sorry I meant positive. Still believe that double standards are at play Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 (edited) 1 hour ago, Mark D said: Sorry I meant positive. Still believe that double standards are at play No he wasn't allowed to ride. He was immediately stood down. When tested following the running of Race 1 rider C Johnson returned a breath alcohol reading in excess of that allowed under the provisions of Rule 656(4) and was stood down for the remainder of day. An inquiry was opened and adjourned until a date to be set. Rider Changes:Race2THE LAST WORD -B Murray replaced C Johnson (Excessive alcohol reading)3QUINTUPLE TWINS -C Barnesreplaced C Johnson 4BOYSLIGHTUP -T Comignaghireplaced C Johnson5TOP GHIA -B Murray replaced C Johnson6CAMINO ROCOSO -J Lowryreplaced C Johnson 7TURNCOAT -L Callawayreplaced C Johnson8HOT TAP-G Jogooreplaced C Johnson Edited September 19, 2020 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 4 hours ago, Mardy said: Apparently from what i read both Cameron and Jason refused a drug test.So i'm guessing that would be grounds to been stood down. based on the gender of the tester ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 I told the RIU when they attempted to drug test me to get f#cked. End result 12 months outed. Pleaded not guilty and went through JCA hearing, and because they rorted the whole affair was found guilty. Had the option of taking it to the High Court, but cost would of been $30,000 plus, so decided to retire after 30 odd years as a LP. They will certainly use my case in any sentence handed out. [ RIU vs J Goode ] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SLB2.0 Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 Why didn't you take the drug test? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted September 19, 2020 Share Posted September 19, 2020 22 minutes ago, SLB2.0 said: Why didn't you take the drug test? Because at the time they had no authority to to take one. I was a dog trainer. It was 11am in the morning before the start of racing. I was not drug affected or had been drinking. It was 2016. I proved my case that they had no authority under the rules of racing at that time, Greyhound racing rules. But after spending many thousands of dollars on a very expensive Law firm in Wellington the RIU managed to pull a rabbit out of the hat in that they were able to by pass the rule of the Greyhound Racing Ass through using the 1908 Incorporated Society Act. The Judge hearing the case had no option because of this technicality but to find guilty, and under the law my only recourse was to go to the High Court. I would of won in the High Court of this I was confident, but after 30 years and at my age at the time 67yrs, decided to just pull the pin. 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Journalists Wandering Eyes Posted September 22, 2020 Journalists Share Posted September 22, 2020 Racing: Jennifer Eccles jockey Jason Waddell out of Tarzino Trophy after failing to provide urine sample 19 Sep, 2020 6:00am 3 minutes to read NZ Herald By: Michael Guerin Trainer Shaune Ritchie is putting a positive spin on losing jockey Jason Waddell just the day before he was to ride Jennifer Eccles in today's $200,000 Tarzino Trophy at Hastings. Waddell has been stood down from riding after failing to provide a urine sample for a regulation test at the Te Rapa races on Thursday. Jockeys being unable to provide urine samples, particularly the heavier jockeys when wasting, is not uncommon because of extreme dehydration, and fellow rider Cameron Lammas also was unable to provide a urine sample on Thursday and has stood himself down from riding Pinmedown in the Tarzino. Waddell nor Lammas won't be allowed to ride until providing a sample which tests negative and that left co-trainer Ritchie in a scramble to find a suitable rider for today's second favourite. A jockey of Matt Cameron's class and experience, with 93 black-type wins and more than $25 million in career stakes, would usually not be available the day before the first Group 1 of the season. But his availability helped ease fears. "Sure, it is not ideal to lose Jason but we are bloody lucky to get a top Group 1 rider like Matt," said Ritchie. "Matt may not have ever sat on her [Jennifer Eccles] but I think with those really top jockeys, sometimes it doesn't matter. It is not like we are being forced to put on a rider we don't want. We have a top rider. "I am not going to get upset or carry on about it. These things happen. After all, we are talking about horses following a white rail around. This isn't curing cancer. I just hope Jason is okay and comes out of this all right and now we look forward to the race." Jennifer Eccles will have a new jockey for the Tarzino Trophy. Photo / Trish Dunell Cameron may not have to think too much in the early stages of today's 1400m Group 1 and he looks certain to be following that white rail from barrier one for the majority of the race. He will start earning his money when he has to make the choice of whether to stay in or pull on to the back of the right rival starting the last 400m. With three or four horses who like to race on the speed in the Tarzino, the tempo should be good and gaps should appear as they turn for home. The question for Jennifer Eccles' punters will be whether she is fit enough and fast enough to take those gaps and how much of a start she has to give Avantage. The latter deserves to be favourite under any scenario, especially after she shrugged off a sluggish few days of track work with an energetic piece of work on Thursday. If she can settle in the first six and wind up from the top of the straight, it is hard to see her beaten, but if any of Bavella, Tavi Mac or potential leader The Mitigator bring their A-game and get too big a break on her, the Hastings straight could start to feel awfully short. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 I see on the loveracing site,that both jocks are now listed as 'out until further notice'. Surely if it was a case of not being able to pee to provide a sample,then surely that would of been done by now? or is their more too this whole thing?. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 23, 2020 Share Posted September 23, 2020 3 hours ago, Mardy said: I see on the loveracing site,that both jocks are now listed as 'out until further notice'. Surely if it was a case of not being able to pee to provide a sample,then surely that would of been done by now? or is their more too this whole thing?. You'd assume that would have happened at some stage during the day, perhaps after some rehydration? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 Yea so maybe i'm missing something? or possibly more too it than meets the eye. Considering next weekend is another Grp 1 day,you would imagine both jocks would want to get back asap. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 35 minutes ago, Mardy said: Yea so maybe i'm missing something? or possibly more too it than meets the eye. Considering next weekend is another Grp 1 day,you would imagine both jocks would want to get back asap. Doubt they'll be back for quite some time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted September 24, 2020 Share Posted September 24, 2020 1 hour ago, curious said: Doubt they'll be back for quite some time. Yea your probably right. No doubt i'm coming across naive but i thought it would be a case of just supplying the sample not long after not being able to produce the original one,then rip back into it..but i have no knowledge of how this process works. A shame but i guess it is,what it is. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted September 28, 2020 Share Posted September 28, 2020 The saga carries on. Matt Cameron back on JE for Saturday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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