Derek Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Seriously ! What sort of a start to the biggest harness race in NZ was that ? Peter Lamb just has to go ! 3 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LongOwner Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 So amateurish and such a bad advertisement - again! When are the top table going to do something about it - just not fair. Favourite nowhere near the tape and Purdons on the outside taking fliers . Trainers and drivers you have to start yelling . 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Derek said: Peter Lamb just has to go ! Time to go. After the performance where he was reprimanded for his incompetent start on a Sunday at Addington he reproduced the same incompetent mess in the biggest race of the year. There must be visible action taken over this because he literally gave the race to the horses on the outside of the front row. I especially feel sorry the second line. With the recent change in policy regarding late scratchings you could scratch half the field! I would say it is comical but the amount of betting money that was lost at that start is unacceptable. The lack of awareness by the starter is breath taking- What is he watching!!! I have had enough of this guy. 4 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 In my day all horses had to be standing STILL before a start not SPRINTING! 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 The outside horses made such a flyer that even the biased commentator failed to see that Self Assured had made a flyer. I suspect the Postman will not be a happy chappy tonight. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 10 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: The outside horses made such a flyer that even the biased commentator failed to see that Self Assured had made a flyer. I suspect the Postman will not be a happy chappy tonight. Wonder what Ray Green thought of the start? Don't have to be a mind reader. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 11 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: even the biased commentator Hear it here first. JJ thinks Matt Cross is biased against the All Stars. Your call. Live with it. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 16 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: The outside horses made such a flyer that even the biased commentator failed to see that Self Assured had made a flyer. Why is that biased? Most commentators look at who goes back first. He was looking for Copy That drawn one initially to see if it got away knowing that it was one of the favourites. Copy That was very slow to get moving and the commentator mentioned it before looking to the front. He couldn't find Self Assured initially because it was partially obscured. Edited November 10, 2020 by Noodlum 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Hear it here first. JJ thinks Matt Cross is biased against the All Stars. Your call. Live with it. Never said that at all re bias against team AS , he was probably too busy looking for his tip The Fixer which he drove earlier at the beach. Not that i expect you to accept that he clearly missed the 2nd favs flying start so to speak nor mentioned the winner until a good 200 after the start Edited November 10, 2020 by JJ Flash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Never said that at all re bias against team AS , he was probably too busy looking for his tip The Fixer which he drove earlier at the beach. Not that i expect you to accept that he clearly missed the 2nd favs flying start so to speak nor mentioned the winner until a good 200 after the start FFS JJ - you're an expert race caller now as well? He was looking at Copy That - called it losing ground and then quickly went to the front of the field. He lost sight of Self Assured who certainly had a blinder of start compared to his normal efforts! As homework I suggest you watch the replay a dozen times! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 17 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Wonder what Ray Green thought of the start? Don't have to be a mind reader. what would he base that on ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 6 minutes ago, Noodlum said: FFS JJ - you're an expert race caller now as well? He was looking at Copy That - called it losing ground and then quickly went to the front of the field. He lost sight of Self Assured who certainly had a blinder of start compared to his normal efforts! As homework I suggest you watch the replay a dozen times! So you think its ok for him to leave out SA on the basis of its manners abut then completely fail to see it flying start Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Rangatira said: what would he base that on ? Yeah a bit of a weird comment. If he draw well he would have been right in it and even Lamb has little chance of mucking up a mobile start! 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noodlum Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 (edited) 11 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: So you think its ok for him to leave out SA on the basis of its manners abut then completely fail to see it flying start You obviously haven't done your homework yet! Self Assured was the third horse mentioned. Here is a word for word transcript for you: "The Cup field is set. The tapes are back, they're underway.." "Copy That very slow off the inside, he's going to end up back second last" "First out Ashley Locaz.." "Now where's Self Assured, he stepped away OK" "First to go is Ashley Locaz, will lead, Self Assured is going get into the trail early so that's a big advantage to him".... FFS JJ who's got the obvious bias here? Edited November 10, 2020 by Noodlum 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 38 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Never said that at all re bias against team AS , he was probably too busy looking for his tip The Fixer which he drove earlier at the beach. Not that i expect you to accept that he clearly missed the 2nd favs flying start so to speak nor mentioned the winner until a good 200 after the start Me and Matt C must be both biased. I will apologize for both of us. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 28 minutes ago, Rangatira said: what would he base that on ? Being shafted this afternoon. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 15 minutes ago, Noodlum said: FFS JJ who's got the obvious bias here? Not JJ. His opinions are his facts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 2 minutes ago, Happy Sunrise said: Not JJ. His opinions are his facts. Your so funny. Stick to selecting losers on your tip threads. You've mastered that Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Happy Sunrise said: Not JJ. His opinions are his facts. You guys should try dealing with him on the galloping thread where he knows even less than he does about trotting . Just a sanctimonious knowitall git . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, nomates said: You guys should try dealing with him on the galloping thread where he knows even less than he does about trotting . Just a sanctimonious knowitall git . Our resident CD loser reappears to attack. At least your consistent Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Those outside horses had a huge advantage, what a joke 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 Just now, JJ Flash said: Our resident CD loser reappears to attack. At least your consistent And right on cue to prove my point , if anyone is consistent it is your highness . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happy Sunrise Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, JJ Flash said: Your so funny. Stick to selecting losers on your tip threads. You've mastered that I am just quoting you. Thanks for the advice. Good to be a master of something than a jack of sweet fuck all like you. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted November 10, 2020 Share Posted November 10, 2020 1 minute ago, Newmarket said: Those outside horses had a huge advantage, what a joke Correct. Entirely predictable where current starter is concerned 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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