Chief Stipe Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 28 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Cant on here for starters, not that i would ,as you blocked that function So much for your idea of openness and transparency- your You know full well why you don't have the privilege of private messaging on this platform. This current scenario is a classic case of why. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 7 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: You know full well why you don't have the privilege of private messaging on this platform. This current scenario is a classic case of why. You really are taking the bait- Unlike you i only post under one name,JJ Flash.I have not PM anyone under another name or NDP as you well know as do all the others on here, the Ranga wilco reply was a wind up/piss take. I'll leave you with the last words from Happy Sunrise- if only you had his principles Free speech does not exist in an environment where a person creates multiple identities with a voice when they are in fact just one - you do Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: You really are taking the bait- Unlike you i only post under one name,JJ Flash.I have not PM anyone under another name or NDP as you well know as do all the others on here, the Ranga wilco reply was a wind up/piss take. I'll leave you with the last words from Happy Sunrise- if only you had his principles Free speech does not exist in an environment where a person creates multiple identities with a voice when they are in fact just one - you do ant toys left in your cot flash? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 24 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: I'll leave you with the last words from Happy Sunrise- if only you had his principles Free speech does not exist in an environment where a person creates multiple identities with a voice when they are in fact just one - you do Piss off. Free speech ISN'T casting aspersions via innuendo and inference and then not having the balls to post what it is they THINK they know. But Flash you have proven once again that you are nothing more than an obsequious sycophantic gossip. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 25, 2021 Share Posted March 25, 2021 56 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: Haha , so true but do you think we should nick name Chief, The Fish- he does love to bite when i post and tease him about sending you private messages SO the crap you wrote above was all shyte. I suggest you go back to grovelling in your echo chamber over the other side. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 52 minutes ago, JJ Flash said: NDP plume was co nz filly of the year for paddy busuttin and roy mckay in the poor mans code 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 34 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: SO the crap you wrote above was all shyte. I suggest you go back to grovelling in your echo chamber over the other side. but flash talks up rangatiaras driving and training Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 (edited) JJ Flash, I am at a loss as to what your agenda is? Chief, runs a very fair forum BOAY, gives everyone the opportunity to discuss things! We wont always agree with each other all the time and we will have the odd slightly heated discussion. What I suggest you do is not to come over to the Brightside just to cause mayhem. If you are happier over on the Dark Side then stay over there and do not waste your time on here as most of the time, you are pissing many off! I was banned from the Darkside along with many many others for having an opinion that was different to the clown that runs the site!!!! It was no loss in fact it was probably of benefit to myself. We will Let the nutters that wanked on about the AllStars stable, that never bet and have orgasms over them to their own devices! As for Chief I have never met, but is doing a great job in allowing racing enthusiasts voice an opinion. Long may it continue! Edited March 26, 2021 by Brodie 2 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 4 minutes ago, Brodie said: JJ Flash, I am at a loss as to what your agenda is? Chief, runs a very fair forum BOAY, gives everyone the opportunity to discuss things! We wont always agree with each other all the time and we will have the odd slightly heated discussion. What I suggest you do is not to come over to the Brightside just to cause mayhem. If you are happier over on the Dark Side then stay over there and do not waste your time on here as most of the time, you are pissing many off! I was banned from the Darkside along with many many others for having an opinion that was different to the clown that runs the site!!!! It was no loss in fact it was probably of benefit to myself. We will Let the nutters that wanked on about the AllStars stable, that never bet and have orgasms over them to their own devices! As for Chief I have never met, but is doing a great job in allowing racing enthusiasts voice an opinion. Long may it continue! Chief does a brilliant job here Brodie as you suggested !!! bravo. No good chucking mud at someone like JJ , just because he respects the NZ champions and you don't. You far more likely to support drink drivers , rather than your leading stables. Why don't you chill for a change , instead of 'wanking On' about TAB issues and join the fun and nominate your favourite drivers in Karrots competition about to start? too much fun for you ? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Gammalite said: Chief does a brilliant job here Brodie as you suggested !!! bravo. No good chucking mud at someone like JJ , just because he respects the NZ champions and you don't. You far more likely to support drink drivers , rather than your leading stables. Why don't you chill for a change , instead of 'wanking On' about TAB issues and join the fun and nominate your favourite drivers in Karrots competition about to start? too much fun for you ? aint you wanting on about drunk horses from your fav stable 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: aint you wanting on about drunk horses from your fav stable you tell me Hunter. Don't like stable that wins the last 5 Auckland Cups? and should of been the last SEVEN (7) NZ CUPS except Smolda galloped and got beaten a head by Kerryn Manning (with Allstars owners anyway) and Arden Rooney. Drunk from all the wins. where are your favourites? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 11 minutes ago, hunterthepunter said: aint you wanting on about drunk horses from your fav stable sorry I got that wrong , should be last SIX (6) Auckland Cups , after the Amazing Dream Win . Pretty good eh ??? HaveFaith In Me, DreamAboutMe, Vincent, TurnItUp, SelfAssured,AmazingDream ..... absolutely REMARKABLE. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 hours ago, Gammalite said: Chief does a brilliant job here Brodie as you suggested !!! bravo. No good chucking mud at someone like JJ , just because he respects the NZ champions and you don't. You far more likely to support drink drivers , rather than your leading stables. Why don't you chill for a change , instead of 'wanking On' about TAB issues and join the fun and nominate your favourite drivers in Karrots competition about to start? too much fun for you ? Gammalite, firstly It was not JJ that I was intimating was wanking on about The AllStars at all, so keep up! Blair Orange was not a drunk driver either!!!! Brodie’s perogative to point out the error of the NZ TAB’s ways and their very poor ethics, in that they treat punters unequally! Not too much fun for Brodie, probably not enough on Premier night Gamma? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 2 minutes ago, Brodie said: Gammalite, firstly It was not JJ that I was intimating was wanking on about The AllStars at all, so keep up! Blair Orange was not a drunk driver either!!!! Brodie’s perogative to point out the error of the NZ TAB’s ways and their very poor ethics, in that they treat punters unequally! Not too much fun for Brodie, probably not enough on Premier night Gamma? No worries Brodster. I like that you say what you think. that's the whole idea of a good forum. (have fun though) AND very sorry the TAB has done you bad, I hate that, and wish you well. Blair was UNFORTUNATELY over the required limit . SO was drunk according the rules , and got a penalty. whether you like it or not. He's back now , so Onward and Upwards !!!!!!!!!!!!! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Karrots Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 Isn't it a no-brainer that when you are under investigation you should take a step back. And then as soon as that investigation is over & it comes to NOTHING that then you can step back in. This sort of thing is a no-brainer and a very smart move by CD. I think he was 1 of those accused was he not in INCA. So right thing to do to step down and wait. If any of those on here had some biz savvy smarts about them then one would concur that that was/is the thing to do. However apologies to those that I already have decided have a low IQ on here. So their opinions mean lil to me. Now I did hear some unsustained rumour about unlicensed gun or something, however this is just rumour and not sustained. And Karrots just thinks "what" after living in the States, everyone needs a gun. So that unsustained rumour was a nothing thing to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JJ Flash Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 18 hours ago, Rangatira said: plume was co nz filly of the year for paddy busuttin and roy mckay in the poor mans code Not sure about the last part. Slipper today worth A$3.5 mio, Big day coming up in Sydney 5 Grp 1s Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted March 26, 2021 Share Posted March 26, 2021 14 hours ago, Karrots said: Now I did hear some unsustained rumour about unlicensed gun or something, this looks like something for sure Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 On 26/03/2021 at 6:34 PM, Gammalite said: No worries Brodster. I like that you say what you think. that's the whole idea of a good forum. (have fun though) AND very sorry the TAB has done you bad, I hate that, and wish you well. Blair was UNFORTUNATELY over the required limit . SO was drunk according the rules , and got a penalty. whether you like it or not. He's back now , so Onward and Upwards !!!!!!!!!!!!! Gammalite, he would not have been over any limit when he jumped in the cart to drive! They would be better to scrutinise the nilness of some of the drivers that are incompetent! Blair is not incompetent! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted March 27, 2021 Share Posted March 27, 2021 1 hour ago, Brodie said: Blair is not incompetent! Good to see him Back last night!! . Couple of wins for him , and good to see there is someone in world you actually Don't call 'incompetent' lol.... That list is quite looooong. Blair might have the Key to NZ Derby coming up ? stopping the Cullen train with Krug . Bit short in the odds though. Might get Value with Nat and Mark for you ? you know ya love em.!!! (they're not incompetent) lol.. Nat 2 more winners last night as well . 4-1 for Amazing Dream too. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 On 27/03/2021 at 8:25 PM, Brodie said: Gammalite, he would not have been over any limit when he jumped in the cart to drive! They would be better to scrutinise the nilness of some of the drivers that are incompetent! Blair is not incompetent! I am starting to think, that in actual fact, the restriction is mental, as opposed to with the tab. You still condone, that in a professional arena, it is ok for a driver, regardless of the amount, to present on course with alcohol in his blood. Unbelievable. He on some occasions has been incompetent, by turning up to the races with Alcohol in his system. Whilst you ASSUME it would not hinder him, you simply dont know and can not be certain. His actions were incompetent. You would be happy if Lewis Hamilton turned up with alcohol in his system? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brodie Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 (edited) 3 hours ago, MarkyMark said: I am starting to think, that in actual fact, the restriction is mental, as opposed to with the tab. You still condone, that in a professional arena, it is ok for a driver, regardless of the amount, to present on course with alcohol in his blood. Unbelievable. He on some occasions has been incompetent, by turning up to the races with Alcohol in his system. Whilst you ASSUME it would not hinder him, you simply dont know and can not be certain. His actions were incompetent. You would be happy if Lewis Hamilton turned up with alcohol in his system? There is an amount that drivers are allowed and Blair was very slightly over! By the time he wouldve been driving the reading wouldve been zero!, A small amount of alcohol in the blood would not be of any danger to other drivers whatsoever If there was a danger then the limit should be ZERO! Edited March 28, 2021 by Brodie Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Brodie said: There is an amount that drivers are allowed and Blair was very slightly over! By the time he wouldve been driving the reading wouldve been zero!, A small amount of alcohol in the blood would not be of any danger to other drivers whatsoever If there was a danger then the limit should be ZERO! but a "race driver" is not permitted to have alcohol in his blood. Different to a regular driver driving a car. your second point, is a dud, because you simply can not be certain of this, aswell as this, how it "may" have impacted his physical state. You are making an assumption which is likely to be correct, but you can not be certain or substantiate this assumption with any actual fact. The danger is ofcourse, does him appearng on course with alcohol in his blood, in anyway, whther small or large impair his ability to drive. Well i know, back in the day when training gallopers and having to do trackwork the next day, from a big night out, even though i felt sober, i was tired, lethargic and it no doubt hindered me, compared to normal duty, asleep early, awake at 3 and gettting stuck in. Im not saying this is Blair, however we can not be absolutely certain through these actions he wasnt in anyway impaired. So then with that being said, what if the unthinkable happened, and he caused a major accident, because those split second decisions you have to make during a race, his ability to think quickly was compromised. These are all what ifs, but if he was completely sober, and had no alcohol in his system, then there are no what ifs, there is no doubt, and there is no possibility than an accident can be blamed on a night out on the piss the day before the races. FFS, this is a professional sport, drivers are deemed professional athletes, and are paid by the punters and owners alike to carry out a duty, which requires them to present on raceday free from alcohol it is as simple as that. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 26 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: The danger is ofcourse, does him appearng on course with alcohol in his blood, in anyway, whther small or large impair his ability to drive. But he can legally drive a motor vehicle to the course or a horse truck loaded with horses. Why should the limit be different? Isn't that the key question here? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 29 minutes ago, MarkyMark said: FFS, this is a professional sport, drivers are deemed professional athletes, and are paid by the punters and owners alike to carry out a duty, which requires them to present on raceday free from alcohol it is as simple as that. Incorrect. The limit is NOT zero i.e. "free from alcohol" as you infer. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MarkyMark Posted March 28, 2021 Share Posted March 28, 2021 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: But he can legally drive a motor vehicle to the course or a horse truck loaded with horses. Why should the limit be different? Isn't that the key question here? no Chief there 2 distinct differences. just about anyone can drive a vehicle. Then driving a vehicle is different to being a professionally paid sportsmen, who is in a sulky steering a horse, in which statistically the risks are higher. It also requires far more skill to steer a horse than drive a car additionally. and again its a professional sport. Are you defending his actions? Are you saying it would be ok for drivers and jockeys alike to turn up on course with a blood alcohol reading? How does someone turning up to a race meeting, especially our countrys leading driver, how is that a positive and represent the industry in a good light when Blair turns up to a racecourse with alcohol still present in his system? and how is that fair on punters and owners. I cant understand the rationale of you and Brodie on this topic, FFS its meant to be a professional sport, so it should be treated as such. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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