Newmarket Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Wow, this guy had some great nags in the past, but last few years he has been going crap. Some long term owners of the stables spent a few quid couple of years ago, to get better stock, same results, poor. Maybe he is too honest to be trainer now, not prepared to dope his hags to win, hats off to him if thats the case. Another reason may be his drivers, he used to have Mark Jones as stable driver, when things going good, now anyone seems to drive, sadly not real good drivers, worth a thought Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Davis Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 21 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Wow, this guy had some great nags in the past, but last few years he has been going crap. Some long term owners of the stables spent a few quid couple of years ago, to get better stock, same results, poor. Maybe he is too honest to be trainer now, not prepared to dope his hags to win, hats off to him if thats the case. Another reason may be his drivers, he used to have Mark Jones as stable driver, when things going good, now anyone seems to drive, sadly not real good drivers, worth a thought Sarah O'Reilly drives for him, she is good but she can't get out and push! 😅😅 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 (edited) 49 minutes ago, Newmarket said: Maybe he is too honest to be trainer now, not prepared to dope his hags to win, hats off to him if thats the case. every chance you are on the money with this ranga doffs his (leather) cap Edited February 28, 2021 by Rangatira 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 46 minutes ago, Davis said: Sarah O'Reilly drives for him, she is good but she can't get out and push! 😅😅 Well, to be honest, that one she drove today should have won for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 dean wife was a purdon lol Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Badger Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Dean is a decent man and a gentleman, he is a worker a very good trainer, and an honest man straight up down, does not suffer fools gladly.He has not got a large team in work, like the group one days, but he will come again. It wasn't that long ago that i read a similar post on here about Benny Hill, another Group one trainer and also a Straight man , great eye for detail , slowly building a nice team around him 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mardy Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 Yip Dean definitely had some nice horses back in the day...Thrashem,Crushem and Rare Touch too name a few and yes he was blessed with some good drivers such as Mark Jones and Anthony Butt...and now Sarah O'Reilly who goes very well. Just like most trainers they go thru lulls,am sure he'll bounce back. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted February 28, 2021 Author Share Posted February 28, 2021 43 minutes ago, Mardy said: Yip Dean definitely had some nice horses back in the day...Thrashem,Crushem and Rare Touch too name a few and yes he was blessed with some good drivers such as Mark Jones and Anthony Butt...and now Sarah O'Reilly who goes very well. Just like most trainers they go thru lulls,am sure he'll bounce back. You might be right, but the lull has lasted many years now. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted February 28, 2021 Share Posted February 28, 2021 51 minutes ago, Mardy said: Yip Dean definitely had some nice horses back in the day...Thrashem,Crushem and Rare Touch too name a few Waipawa Lad, Captain Peacock, Flame Up, Bruzem, Anvilanunoit Peter Jones. Junior Driver Shane Renault had more wins for Dean than anyone else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest CrossCodes Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 He hasn’t had a real decent horse in years, makes you wonder why! Ariella is a very good filly that just needs a new trainer for her to show her best, the day she gets a decent trainer we will see the best out of her, maybe she needs to go over to Oz, a wasted talent just going around for Taylor and getting worse and worse. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted March 19, 2021 Share Posted March 19, 2021 On 28/02/2021 at 9:53 PM, Rangatira said: Waipawa Lad, Captain Peacock, Flame Up, Bruzem, Anvilanunoit Peter Jones. Junior Driver Shane Renault had more wins for Dean than anyone else. and mark jones , ross Houghton Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted April 17, 2021 Author Share Posted April 17, 2021 On 19/03/2021 at 5:35 PM, CrossCodes said: He hasn’t had a real decent horse in years, makes you wonder why! Ariella is a very good filly that just needs a new trainer for her to show her best, the day she gets a decent trainer we will see the best out of her, maybe she needs to go over to Oz, a wasted talent just going around for Taylor and getting worse and worse. Ariella went very poorly today, even after dropping back in grade. Taylor has had a terrible time with his nags the last couple of weeks. If i was one of his owners, i would be getting them down to that Woodend beach, I have heard horses improve overnight🤭 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 9 hours ago, Newmarket said: Ariella went very poorly today, even after dropping back in grade. Taylor has had a terrible time with his nags the last couple of weeks. If i was one of his owners, i would be getting them down to that Woodend beach, I have heard horses improve overnight🤭 do they start earlier at woodend beach ? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted April 20, 2021 Author Share Posted April 20, 2021 On 18/04/2021 at 8:38 AM, Rangatira said: do they start earlier at woodend beach ? At the moment, Deans horses would have to start earlier by 30 seconds to win races! I know a couple of stable clients who rather than breed from their previous mares, decided to spend more money to buy young horses. I feel for them, they have been loyal to the stable for many years, results are poor at best. Surely comes a time you try another trainer 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 it is a truly sad state of affairs Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bang Posted April 20, 2021 Share Posted April 20, 2021 Interesting topic this one. Did a little research to see where things were at. Is it that Dean's team isn't going as good, or more a case of other trainers taking away the available number of wins available. Back in 2003 when he trained his best mark of 46. The highest # of wins by a Canterbury trainer for the season was 51 - David and Catherine Butt. The market isn't as open as what it once was. Half a dozen Canterbury trainers win probably half the races available therefore reducing the available # of wins available to other trainers quite considerably. Yes, he lines up a lot of horses - but take the likes of Lilac Change, Lydia and even Go Davey out of the mix and there's almost a third of his starters for the season without a win. There's some nice horses coming through. Two 2YO's that line up today at the trials go nice. Barnstormer finished a good second to Franco Indie who was a big winner on Sunday recently. Tiger Taylor looks an OK horse too. I don't know if I'd call it a sad state of affairs but more an indication of just how good you have to be to win a race these days. Give me 100 Dean Taylor's winning a dozen races a season and doing it honestly and with integrity than some of the rubbish we've got going on at the moment. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hunterthepunter Posted April 21, 2021 Share Posted April 21, 2021 top bloke and good trainer as Big Bang says has some nice young horses coming on 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted April 29, 2021 Author Share Posted April 29, 2021 On 21/04/2021 at 11:47 AM, Big Bang said: Interesting topic this one. Did a little research to see where things were at. Is it that Dean's team isn't going as good, or more a case of other trainers taking away the available number of wins available. Back in 2003 when he trained his best mark of 46. The highest # of wins by a Canterbury trainer for the season was 51 - David and Catherine Butt. The market isn't as open as what it once was. Half a dozen Canterbury trainers win probably half the races available therefore reducing the available # of wins available to other trainers quite considerably. Yes, he lines up a lot of horses - but take the likes of Lilac Change, Lydia and even Go Davey out of the mix and there's almost a third of his starters for the season without a win. There's some nice horses coming through. Two 2YO's that line up today at the trials go nice. Barnstormer finished a good second to Franco Indie who was a big winner on Sunday recently. Tiger Taylor looks an OK horse too. I don't know if I'd call it a sad state of affairs but more an indication of just how good you have to be to win a race these days. Give me 100 Dean Taylor's winning a dozen races a season and doing it honestly and with integrity than some of the rubbish we've got going on at the moment. You may be right, but it must be sad as a trainer to see them run down the track. Nothing against Dean, I do not really know him, but seems a decent bloke. Stable clients are certainly loyal, not sure i could. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shad Posted April 29, 2021 Share Posted April 29, 2021 Just maybe those fast ones are just hard to find. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted May 28, 2021 Author Share Posted May 28, 2021 On 21/04/2021 at 1:35 PM, hunterthepunter said: top bloke and good trainer as Big Bang says has some nice young horses coming on Hey Hunter, those young ones not running too quick, 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 19, 2021 Author Share Posted June 19, 2021 Still do not think he has had a winner? Has Lydia in first race today, only horse he has at the races. Gee, must be a depressing drive to the track. Good luck with horse, poor field, but it would surprise if it paid a divvy Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Bang Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 6 hours ago, Newmarket said: Still do not think he has had a winner? Has Lydia in first race today, only horse he has at the races. Gee, must be a depressing drive to the track. Good luck with horse, poor field, but it would surprise if it paid a divvy Sending best wishes to Dean, who I understand is currently in hospital after a mishap in the past week. Not sure why it's so important to keep highlighting a stable that's having a lean patch though. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jones Posted June 20, 2021 Share Posted June 20, 2021 41 minutes ago, Big Bang said: Sending best wishes to Dean, who I understand is currently in hospital after a mishap in the past week. Not sure why it's so important to keep highlighting a stable that's having a lean patch though. Agree here Big Bang, 1 thing that gets me, is attacks on most likely, hard working, wholesome people, trying to make a living (long hours), in an industry that appears to be struggling. Fair dinkum to get called out when things need to get called out. But other times, kind of feel like its, flat out, mean/cyber bullying. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted June 21, 2021 Author Share Posted June 21, 2021 Fair enough, hope he gets better, didn’t know he was sick, won’t mention his UDR again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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