Thomass Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Oh..should have inserted 'Wayne I left my wife with 2 disabled children for the office floozy Bennett' This week he refused to take questions from a 'fans' week of media...but saw the light of attending main media interviews when he couldn't take the fines no more....considering he was paying his alimony dues and all... Anyway those headliners REFUSE to promote the sport they so willingly take prize money from....supplied by their 'fans' and Punters who work their ass's off to help Dummy by far the worse...spewing total LIES to the betting public... ...then rubbing it in their faces when he won the race and collected the punt.... Still SPITTING THE DUMMY all those years later... Should face continual sanctions....and ultimately rubbed out of the game that allows him all of his fun...at the expense of Punters... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted May 30, 2021 Share Posted May 30, 2021 Go Kevin, one of racing's greatest, shoved it up Adrian Clarks where the sun don't shine. Staunch to his owners, and a man of integrity. Trackside did themselves a hit job and lost, now they interview themselves and nobody listens. Get rid of trackside and their talking heads. Sell it to an Australian broadcaster and do us all a favor. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 1 hour ago, aquaman said: Go Kevin, one of racing's greatest, shoved it up Adrian Clarks where the sun don't shine. Staunch to his owners, and a man of integrity. Sorry can't agree , i have the greatest of respect for him as a horse trainer and i'm sure in many ways he is a man of integrity , but the only persons he shoved something where the sun doesn't shine was the punters . Don't deliberately mislead the punters to help your owners get a better price then start bragging about it after the race admitting that's what you done , forget about AC there was plenty of pissed off punters after that race , and these are the actions that help fulfill the perception that racing is crooked . He should have just stayed stuum , it's what you do if you don't want to give away information about your runners . He doesn't have to do a pre race interview but for the sake of the industry profile talking after a win is a good look to newbies and the old timers alike . Time to get over it . 2 hours ago, aquaman said: Get rid of trackside and their talking heads. Sell it to an Australian broadcaster and do us all a favor. Now this i do agree with , and the sooner the better . Wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to talk to these numpties at anytime . 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted May 31, 2021 Author Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) So Naomi says she's got mental health problems and she's going to get it sorted... ...good on her... But imagine ANY sport where participants all refused promotion of the sport because they got pinged telling TOTAL B/S Just like Dumbo Dummy did? Edited May 31, 2021 by Thomass Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 (edited) 27 minutes ago, Thomass said: So Naomi says she's got mental health problems and she's going to get it sorted... ...good on her... But imagine ANY sport where participants all refused promotion of the sport because they got pinged telling TOTAL B/S Just like Dumbo Dummy did? 'Dumbo Dummy' as you call him would contribute more to the NZ racing industry in five minutes than you, all the trackside staff and all the NZTR staff combined would have done in a lifetime you plonker. I have had horses with plenty of NZ's premier trainers(including Te Akau) and the vast majority of them would tell you absolutely nothing useful in regards your nags. Pitty is a bit of an exception but you have to chase him for anything useful(better to listen to his facebook posts on race morning to be fair). So often it is build them up a week out then slowly hose down expectations as raceday gets near. For all the lack of information if they are a show they invariably run at prohibitive odds which indicates that someone is fed info. Dummy Myers is a bloody good bloke, a bloody good supporter of West Coast and South Island racing and is welcome at Reefton anytime. I might add there is nothing wrong with Terri Rae either(apart for the fact she is not much of a Coast racing supporter). She is clearly a Trainer to whom strike rate is everything so you can always assume her horses will be a royal show. If you are that thick that you have to rely on Trackside and Trainer interviews you deserve what you get. Edited May 31, 2021 by Reefton 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 21 hours ago, nomates said: Sorry can't agree , i have the greatest of respect for him as a horse trainer and i'm sure in many ways he is a man of integrity , but the only persons he shoved something where the sun doesn't shine was the punters . Don't deliberately mislead the punters to help your owners get a better price then start bragging about it after the race admitting that's what you done , forget about AC there was plenty of pissed off punters after that race , and these are the actions that help fulfill the perception that racing is crooked . He should have just stayed stuum , it's what you do if you don't want to give away information about your runners . He doesn't have to do a pre race interview but for the sake of the industry profile talking after a win is a good look to newbies and the old timers alike . Time to get over it . Now this i do agree with , and the sooner the better . Wouldn't blame anyone for not wanting to talk to these numpties at anytime . What a pathetic answer. Kevin Myers is a horse trainer you idiot, he is not answerable to the punters, or to the overrated talking heads on trackside. Thats just shit served up by a petulant trackside that they think are the beginning and end of horse and dog racing. They should feel honored and grateful that any trainer gives them an interview at anytime. Trainers do not have to give interviews, just as trackside talking dummy's do not have to train horses. So if Kevin Myers is kind enough to give interviews, or for that matter any trainer, then whats said needs to be taken at face value, and its not for trackside to throw their toys out of the cot and try to destroy the interviewee because they didn't like what they heard. All trainers should of blacklisted trackside after that shameful affair. Kevin stayed staunch and has never given them oxygen again. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 On 31/05/2021 at 10:49 AM, Thomass said: Oh..should have inserted 'Wayne I left my wife with 2 disabled children for the office floozy Bennett' This week he refused to take questions from a 'fans' week of media...but saw the light of attending main media interviews when he couldn't take the fines no more....considering he was paying his alimony dues and all... Anyway those headliners REFUSE to promote the sport they so willingly take prize money from....supplied by their 'fans' and Punters who work their ass's off to help Dummy by far the worse...spewing total LIES to the betting public... ...then rubbing it in their faces when he won the race and collected the punt.... Still SPITTING THE DUMMY all those years later... Should face continual sanctions....and ultimately rubbed out of the game that allows him all of his fun...at the expense of Punters... I've just read this post again and the others. Here was me thinking that this was ANOTHER Dummy Myers episode but more recent. NUP! Thomarse still banging on about something that happened years ago but using Osaka as a segue. FFS this happened two weeks ago BUT TWENTY YEARS AGO! Twenty years and you still can't let it go! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted May 31, 2021 Share Posted May 31, 2021 16 minutes ago, aquaman said: What a pathetic answer. Kevin Myers is a horse trainer you idiot, he is not answerable to the punters, or to the overrated talking heads on trackside. Thats just shit served up by a petulant trackside that they think are the beginning and end of horse and dog racing. They should feel honored and grateful that any trainer gives them an interview at anytime. Trainers do not have to give interviews, just as trackside talking dummy's do not have to train horses. So if Kevin Myers is kind enough to give interviews, or for that matter any trainer, then whats said needs to be taken at face value, and its not for trackside to throw their toys out of the cot and try to destroy the interviewee because they didn't like what they heard. All trainers should of blacklisted trackside after that shameful affair. Kevin stayed staunch and has never given them oxygen again. Geez and we wonder why we are struggling . No he's not answerable to the punters or any body else , so don't get bloody interviewed and straight out mislead the punters , which he admitted after the race , was trying to put punters off to get a better price for his owner , and probably a few others . I don't take much notice of pre race interviews but many do , especially less experienced punters , you know the ones we are trying to attract and retain to help our turnovers which in turn will hopefully get better stakes for our owners . Do you think giving misleading information to help the price is helpful , if you do then you are part of the problem But whilst i'm no fan of the way trackside is presented , the industry needs a public face to present racing and that includes getting trainers involved , because we are all part of one big industry that is struggling badly , and every participant needs to be involved in dragging it back from it's current precipise . Punters back Mr Myers horses because he's a bloody good trainer , i am one , and for the betterment of the industry he needs to be the bigger man and at least do post race interviews , it adds to the colour of the races and improves the image of our sport . And i have done a couple of pre race interviews , had no issue doing them , i see it as part and parcel of the sport . We are all in this together . 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, nomates said: Geez and we wonder why we are struggling . No he's not answerable to the punters or any body else , so don't get bloody interviewed and straight out mislead the punters , which he admitted after the race , was trying to put punters off to get a better price for his owner , and probably a few others . I don't take much notice of pre race interviews but many do , especially less experienced punters , you know the ones we are trying to attract and retain to help our turnovers which in turn will hopefully get better stakes for our owners . Do you think giving misleading information to help the price is helpful , if you do then you are part of the problem Am I missing something @nomates are you referring to the incident that happened 20 years ago? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, nomates said: Punters back Mr Myers horses because he's a bloody good trainer , i am one , and for the betterment of the industry he needs to be the bigger man and at least do post race interviews , it adds to the colour of the races and improves the image of our sport . Why? Don't we have enough trainers rolling out cliche after cliche? There are heaps of trainers in OZ that refuse to comment. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Am I missing something @nomates are you referring to the incident that happened 20 years ago? Yes . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 minute ago, nomates said: Yes . Geez anyone would think he manufactured Blue Magic as well! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Why? Don't we have enough trainers rolling out cliche after cliche? There are heaps of trainers in OZ that refuse to comment. Never seen one refuse to do one after a big race win , i'm sure someone will come up with one tho . I personally don't take much note of pre race interviews but i do enjoy watching the enjoyment the trainers and owners get from winning , that is the special part of racing . I don't really care if someone just doesn't want to be interviewed , i don't believe it is compulsary , but Aqua is trying to justify openly lying to punters , and they should be grateful he gave the interview at all . Things like that are why we have the public perception that racing is crooked , and i'm not trying to bash KM , but he made a mistake , like i have many times in my life , own it and move on . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, nomates said: but Aqua is trying to justify openly lying to punters , and they should be grateful he gave the interview at all . Yes but we only know that because Dummy kind of said it after the race. I've seen a few interviews pre-race where the trainer has said "He isn't as well forward as we would like and this race isn't his goal but he should be there or thereabouts". When the horse bolts in "well he surprised me with that effort"... A serious punter wouldn't place much store in what a trainer says unless you were Thomarse and the horse was wearing blinkers, was a 3yr old after Christmas and dropping back in class on a Wednesday. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gammalite Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 18 minutes ago, nomates said: Never seen one refuse to do one after a big race win , i'm sure someone will come up with one tho . I personally don't take much note of pre race interviews but i do enjoy watching the enjoyment the trainers and owners get from winning , that is the special part of racing . I used to really enjoy the absolute 'unbridled joy' expressed by some trainers, after a big race win. We had a touch of it at Eagle Farm Saturday when the trainer Desleigh Forster horse APACHE CHASE had upset the plunge horse that Kah rode 'Arton' that is spose to be a Stradbroke chance. The camera did the chase after the race too!, lol.., chasing Desleigh through the crowd and capturing her crazy excitement. Was great moments. GAI Waterhouse used to be like that , Always Beaming about her horses chances before and after a race. But she was never the same, after that Horrid MORE JOYOUS scandal and very public mounting yard debacle with the owner Singleton in 2013. She's been a lot quieter ever since really , which is a shame. Wayne HAWKES is still good value !!! makes you laugh , even though some don't like him. The rest of the trainers sound like they have 'Prepared cliche' speeches' after a race, very drab at times. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes but we only know that because Dummy kind of said it after the race. I've seen a few interviews pre-race where the trainer has said "He isn't as well forward as we would like and this race isn't his goal but he should be there or thereabouts". When the horse bolts in "well he surprised me with that effort"... A serious punter wouldn't place much store in what a trainer says unless you were Thomarse and the horse was wearing blinkers, was a 3yr old after Christmas and dropping back in class on a Wednesday. And that is the difference , say what you want before the race , most are none the wiser and the wiser are richer . But FFS don't go on after and stick the finger to the punters by laughing about it and admit you were conning them . Just say " well he surprised me with that effort " .... And the trainer was doing his bit of PR for the industry , so everyones happy . Mostly the trainer and his owners tho . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Gammalite said: I used to really enjoy the absolute 'unbridled joy' expressed by some trainers, after a big race win. We had a touch of it at Eagle Farm Saturday when the trainer Desleigh Forster horse APACHE CHASE had upset the plunge horse that Kah rode 'Arton' that is spose to be a Stradbroke chance. The camera did the chase after the race too!, lol.., chasing Desleigh through the crowd and capturing her crazy excitement. Was great moments. GAI Waterhouse used to be like that , Always Beaming about her horses chances before and after a race. But she was never the same, after that Horrid MORE JOYOUS scandal and very public mounting yard debacle with the owner Singleton in 2013. She's been a lot quieter ever since really , which is a shame. Wayne HAWKES is still good value !!! makes you laugh , even though some don't like him. The rest of the trainers sound like they have 'Prepared cliche' speeches' after a race, very drab at times. That USED to be the case here as well Gammy... ...until SLACKside TV decided to ditch the course interviewers for a ... ....PATHETIC Racing experience of pure SILENCE sans audio... ...a TOTAL Casino experience only... with ZERO atmosphere 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 3 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: Yes but we only know that because Dummy kind of said it after the race. I've seen a few interviews pre-race where the trainer has said "He isn't as well forward as we would like and this race isn't his goal but he should be there or thereabouts". When the horse bolts in "well he surprised me with that effort"... A serious punter wouldn't place much store in what a trainer says unless you were Thomarse and the horse was wearing blinkers, was a 3yr old after Christmas and dropping back in class on a Wednesday. And your memes like a sieve... DUMMY laughed like a hyena in Clarke's face then turned to the camera and gave the 2 finger salute to his funders... Screw him 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 21 minutes ago, Thomass said: And your memes like a sieve... DUMMY laughed like a hyena in Clarke's face then turned to the camera and gave the 2 finger salute to his funders... Screw him In 20 years you haven't got close. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brian Nally Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 Why do you have an issue with Terri? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ludwig Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Brian Nally said: Why do you have an issue with Terri? Agree. And why drag poor old Naomi into this thread? . Her circumstances are completely different from Mr Myers. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thomass Posted June 1, 2021 Author Share Posted June 1, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ludwig said: Agree. And why drag poor old Naomi into this thread? . Her circumstances are completely different from Mr Myers. No matter what her circumstances Naomi refused to do media...as does Dummy and Rae Terri Rae point blank refuses to do post race interviews...ask Rodley In the last review of Jockey Riding Fees...and which they received a substantial increase...amid covid and while others had to tread water... Saundry reminded Jockeys that "now you've received a very generous increase...you should make yourselves available to media...Please" So at the present time....amidst this atrocious lack of Thoroughbred ATMOSPHERE on Trackside...sans audio...not even a Neddy Fart.... Dumbo the Clown should be contemplating making a return to sucking the dummy rather than spitting it out.. ...or take the sex and travel option..it's that simple 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Whyisit Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 34 minutes ago, Thomass said: Dumbo the Clown should be contemplating making a return to sucking the dummy rather than spitting it out.. Dummies done so much for racing overall he owes nothing to anybody . I think you will be 6ft under (and still grizzling)and Dummy will not have changed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Thomass said: So at the present time....amidst this atrocious lack of Thoroughbred ATMOSPHERE on Trackside...sans audio...not even a Neddy Fart... Half the time they don't even have presenters on track. They're sitting in the bunker at Te Rapa and finish about 1 minute after the last race. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gospel of Judas Posted June 1, 2021 Share Posted June 1, 2021 This is abit of a interesting one. Can see both sides to it. However, think overall, if want new punters in the industry, it is a necessary. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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