Doomed Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 The Gore Guineas could be interesting on Saturday. This might be quite a nice crop of 3yos down South. The poor buggers certainly don't get many opportunities. Incredible to think that the Canty 3yo season for the males finishes in November. You couldn't make some of this stuff up really. I keep looking at Palmetto. He never seems to have much luck in his racing; always seems to be in tight quarters and races greenly. I would love to see him on a suitable track with a really good jockey giving him a proper ride. He is one horse who is badly disadvantaged by the lack of a proper pattern of races to build up to these Guineas races. He looks like a horse that needs some easy opportunities to gain some confidence and experience. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 20, 2022 Share Posted January 20, 2022 That Ruby's lad is a real good horse i reckon with a lovely action , i can see him heading over to Aus for the connections , already have a connection with Maher/Eustace with the jumpers . Andertons also have that Burghie and wouldn't be surprised to see her win on Sat , another very nice horse for the Andertons . Re the lack of 3yo races around Canterbury , again goes back to the calendar and programming , seriously needs updating . 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 21, 2022 Share Posted January 21, 2022 On 20/01/2022 at 10:29 PM, nomates said: That Ruby's lad is a real good horse i reckon with a lovely action , i can see him heading over to Aus for the connections , already have a connection with Maher/Eustace with the jumpers . Andertons also have that Burghie and wouldn't be surprised to see her win on Sat , another very nice horse for the Andertons . Re the lack of 3yo races around Canterbury , again goes back to the calendar and programming , seriously needs updating . I have decided that i am going to stick another promising 3yo down that way in Avitus , have been on him from the start and i think there is a good horse in him , nice juicy odds too . One of the more interesting races of the day , let's hope the jockeys ride the race with the respect it deserves . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Racing is brutal , really feel for the Pitman's . Hope it is not as bad as it looked . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 Confirmed that McKenzie Lad broke a leg after the winning post and was euthanised , rough for the connections , thoughts are with them . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted January 22, 2022 Author Share Posted January 22, 2022 Someone who knows more about these things than me might be able to explain how they managed to swab a dead horse. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 You really feel for people connected to the horse, there's no worse feeling in racing. What a great little warrior, thoughts are with all concerned. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mumbles Posted January 22, 2022 Share Posted January 22, 2022 51 minutes ago, Doomed said: Someone who knows more about these things than me might be able to explain how they managed to swab a dead horse. .Bloods i presume plus saliva would still be in system Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted January 23, 2022 Share Posted January 23, 2022 As ever the media only ever cover the aspects of our industry that give the anti brigade leverage , i have just seen an article on Stuff about the demise of McKenzie Lad , yes they mentioned his win but would his win have made the same coverage without the tragic events that followed . Nothing on stuff about the Karaka Millions meeting , no that was too positive for them . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 17 hours ago, nomates said: As ever the media only ever cover the aspects of our industry that give the anti brigade leverage , i have just seen an article on Stuff about the demise of McKenzie Lad , yes they mentioned his win but would his win have made the same coverage without the tragic events that followed . Nothing on stuff about the Karaka Millions meeting , no that was too positive for them . The McKenzie Lad item was news. And they have one of the few remaining racing journalists down that way. Trackside never even mentioned what had happened to McKenzie Lad, which I thought was appalling ignorance when you consider all the people watching who had seen that something was happening. TV3 covered the sweepstake races on their news item. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, Doomed said: The McKenzie Lad item was news. And they have one of the few remaining racing journalists down that way. Trackside never even mentioned what had happened to McKenzie Lad, which I thought was appalling ignorance when you consider all the people watching who had seen that something was happening. TV3 covered the sweepstake races on their news item. That's par for the course now , they (trackside) don't really dwell on anything negative on trackside , only the racing is fun and will in time bring the to the world everlasting world peace! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doomed said: The McKenzie Lad item was news. And they have one of the few remaining racing journalists down that way. Trackside never even mentioned what had happened to McKenzie Lad, which I thought was appalling ignorance when you consider all the people watching who had seen that something was happening. TV3 covered the sweepstake races on their news item. If you mean Tayler Strong, he passed away recently. Edited January 24, 2022 by Freda Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, Freda said: If you mean Tayler Strong, he passed away recently. The Southland Times has Jamie Searle, who wrote the article in question, and the ODT has a racing writer as well. Two of very few racing writers left in the country. When you see general reporters trying to write a racing article it can often be pretty cringeworthy. I think the Auckland Herald may still have a racing writer as well. Quite a good paper the ODT, could show up many others around the country. Still has a very good wine writer as well. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Huey said: That's par for the course now , they (trackside) don't really dwell on anything negative on trackside , only the racing is fun and will in time bring the to the world everlasting world peace! I found that cheerleader stuff from trackside pretty embarrassing to be honest. I realise totally that sweepstake day isn't intended for the likes of me and for most of the other contributors on here. It is much more of an on course thing for the youngsters, and a big piss up: and good on them: that boys go wild outfit do a good job. I was young once and I'm sure I would have enjoyed such a day. I'm not sure that it is really an event intended for off course though, which is where trackside's main market is. Some of the editing on Saturday was embarrassing: leaving Gore as the last horse crossed the line to show the well dressed walking around at Ellerslie in slow mo. One thing I did notice was only a dozen or so people gathered around the parade ring watching the horses pre race. At Riccarton during Cup Week they can be 4 deep around the parade ring. Even the main grandstand was empty most the time. They all preferred to gather on the lawn where you could be seen, but couldn't see anything. Trackside should realise that that was it for most of those on course attendees for the year, whereas most of us on here will be back punting again next week. They do need to be aware of their main market. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 1 hour ago, Doomed said: One thing I did notice was only a dozen or so people gathered around the parade ring watching the horses pre race. They've shortened the time horses parade at Ellerslie and then basically walk straight through the birdcage out onto the track. So to see them parade you have to go to the back of the stands. Don't get me started on what they have done to Owners pre-race viewing at Ellerslie. With Riccarton do they parade in the birdcage or is there a separate parade ring? Other jurisdictions in the world turn the period from when the horse is saddled to when they go out onto the track a spectacle in its own right. Is it Churchill Downs where the crowd can get really close to the pre-race action. We have made the mistake of ignoring the core product (the horse) and what it can provide to differentiate itself from other entertainment hospitality options. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 21 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: They've shortened the time horses parade at Ellerslie and then basically walk straight through the birdcage out onto the track. So to see them parade you have to go to the back of the stands. Don't get me started on what they have done to Owners pre-race viewing at Ellerslie. With Riccarton do they parade in the birdcage or is there a separate parade ring? Other jurisdictions in the world turn the period from when the horse is saddled to when they go out onto the track a spectacle in its own right. Is it Churchill Downs where the crowd can get really close to the pre-race action. We have made the mistake of ignoring the core product (the horse) and what it can provide to differentiate itself from other entertainment hospitality options. Newmarket UK [birthplace of horse racing] does it brilliantly, so too at Churchill Downs in Kentucky, the horses are brought up to a set of tie-ups next to the birdcage, they are saddled in full view of the public, some horses get a bit stirred, I've seen them at Newmarket July Course walk the horses away and under the trees and while the attendant holds the reins, the trainer or assistant trainer does the business, Royalty, A celebrities [as opposed to here where b & c grade celebrities throng] mingle with the public, it's bloody great, and everyone then saunters over to the birdcage and they parade before the jocks are legged up. A day at the races anywhere in UK, Ireland and up in Bonny Scotland is a must do, just delightful on a summers day. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 3 hours ago, Freda said: If you mean Tayler Strong, he passed away recently. I thought it was Mac Henry who passed, not Tayler? Tayler wrote Mac’s obituary Edited January 24, 2022 by Bill Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 (edited) 42 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Other jurisdictions in the world turn the period from when the horse is saddled to when they go out onto the track a spectacle in its own right. Is it Churchill Downs where the crowd can get really close to the pre-race action. No you can only enter the saddling area with the trainer at CD. You may be thinking of Keeneland where horses are saddled under the trees behind the stand. Edited January 24, 2022 by curious Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted January 24, 2022 Share Posted January 24, 2022 53 minutes ago, Bill said: I thought it was Mac Henry who passed, not Tayler? Tayler wrote Mac’s obituary Gee, that's a faux pas if that is right, hope I didn't cause any offence. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted January 24, 2022 Author Share Posted January 24, 2022 2 hours ago, Chief Stipe said: They've shortened the time horses parade at Ellerslie and then basically walk straight through the birdcage out onto the track. So to see them parade you have to go to the back of the stands. Don't get me started on what they have done to Owners pre-race viewing at Ellerslie. With Riccarton do they parade in the birdcage or is there a separate parade ring? Other jurisdictions in the world turn the period from when the horse is saddled to when they go out onto the track a spectacle in its own right. Is it Churchill Downs where the crowd can get really close to the pre-race action. We have made the mistake of ignoring the core product (the horse) and what it can provide to differentiate itself from other entertainment hospitality options. At Riccarton they spend quite a lot of time in the parade ring and then cruise through the birdcage quite quickly. Attracts a very big crowd during Cup Week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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