Joe Bloggs Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 2 hours ago, Bid said: I'd be sure it won't be slippery, it's been raining including some heavy downpours here in Masterton since 4am and they were expecting more than us down there. Stupid thing is they are not inspecting the track until tomorrow afternoon when there are plenty of Northern horses entered who would need to be leaving in the morning...maybe to big a task for NZTR staff on a Sunday morning to get out of bed early and go look Hope you're right, a few years back one slipped and whoopee doo, all over rover, maybe if it's constant soaking rain it will just be an ''honest heavy''.........might be too big an ask for them to drive over the 'hill' early doors, where can you get a bacon and egg roll in Featherston 7am Sun morn?.....#nomaccasformiles 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
All The Aces Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Will be stupid putting the 3yo Oaks Prelude at Tauherekikau on Monday. Eleven of the thirteen runners are from the Waikato and would have had a nine hour float trip today down to New Plymouth and back. Then on Monday they would have to travel to Tauherenikau and back which is a lot further. There will be nothing left of them heading towards the NZ Oaks at Wellington in March. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 24 minutes ago, All The Aces said: Will be stupid putting the 3yo Oaks Prelude at Tauherekikau on Monday. Eleven of the thirteen runners are from the Waikato and would have had a nine hour float trip today down to New Plymouth and back. Then on Monday they would have to travel to Tauherenikau and back which is a lot further. There will be nothing left of them heading towards the NZ Oaks at Wellington in March. There is a 3yo filly 2,000m at Te Rapa next Saturday so none of the northern fillies would head south next week. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 Such good planning going forward. Meantime Dunedin managed to run without incident, although the rain affected the field sizes. We had a 'nostalgia' evening last night, I had recently had some old videos transferred to flash drive and, along with a few ( quite a few ) bevvies, watched races from the late '80s on. Inevitably, the opinions ranged from amusement at the older styles of riding, to surprise at how the dodgems so often seen now during a race were not so noticeable. The most surprise however, was the realization that those old tracks, many of which are no longer in use, seemed to ride well, and ( visually at least ) looked to be in good order. 6 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 16 hours ago, curious said: Yes would make more sense to me to inspect tomorrow morning before those horses leave and then if all ok first thing raceday. At least they took up that suggestion. Good morning, The Tauherenikau track was inspected this morning at around 10am by the RIB and Club representatives. The track had received approximately 50mm of rain through to Sunday morning with more significant rain to come during Sunday. There is currently some surface water on the track and inconsistencies with the surface. In the interests of safety the decision has been made to not run this race-meeting tomorrow. Further information will follow. Allan Pollitt Bureau Team Leader New Zealand Thoroughbred Racing Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 5, 2022 Author Share Posted February 5, 2022 The announcement says the meeting has been postponed. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimbu Posted February 5, 2022 Share Posted February 5, 2022 An interesting comment from Go Racing's Albert Bosma (Racing Desk - 5 Feb Hasabro article) Talking about Miss Ella & referring to New Plymouth races...“The abandonment today was very frustrating,” Bosma said. “It was obviously the right decision, because injuries to horses or jockeys would be the last thing you’d ever want. But it’s very disappointing to lose the meeting, and especially after it seems like they did everything right in terms of irrigation through the week. You can understand these abandonments a bit more when there’s unexpected rain on a Good3 track. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 31 minutes ago, Chimbu said: An interesting comment from Go Racing's Albert Bosma (Racing Desk - 5 Feb Hasabro article) Talking about Miss Ella & referring to New Plymouth races...“The abandonment today was very frustrating,” Bosma said. “It was obviously the right decision, because injuries to horses or jockeys would be the last thing you’d ever want. But it’s very disappointing to lose the meeting, and especially after it seems like they did everything right in terms of irrigation through the week. You can understand these abandonments a bit more when there’s unexpected rain on a Good3 track. And what would Albert Bosma know about preparing race tracks , this is the problem with our industry , too many people with influence but no real idea making or helping make decisions or continue the illusion , it's all just sound bites . The real worry is that none of them seem to learn , just lurch from one fuckup to the next . How long have they been preparing tracks with dibs and dabs of irrigation without ever looking up and asking " is there another way ? " . 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, nomates said: How long have they been preparing tracks with dibs and dabs of irrigation without ever looking up and asking " is there another way ? " . I doubt they maintain water budgets. Looking at the Hawera Trots it was evident that the track hadn't had any water on it for a long time. The other issue of course is that many tracks don't have good irrigation systems nor cheap water to access. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 I remember having a long chat with a very good CD Jockey - Hayden Tinsley about CD tracks. He surprised me with his ratings. He rated Taranaki as the worst. That threw me as my horse had won the G3 Taranaki Cup on it. But it was the first F1 rated surface that day. It probably would have been that yesterday if the rain hadn't arrived. He rated the best as Hawera. My view being that it was a peaty bog track. But he said it was the fairest and most consistent track over all the ratings. Looking at it now I'd say it's stuffed too! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 You could say this is where our tracks are headed. VID-20210528-WA0000.mp4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 hours ago, Chimbu said: it seems like they did everything right in terms of irrigation through the week. Yeahh right. Tui ad. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 hours ago, nomates said: And what would Albert Bosma know about preparing race tracks , this is the problem with our industry , too many people with influence but no real idea making or helping make decisions or continue the illusion , it's all just sound bites . The real worry is that none of them seem to learn , just lurch from one fuckup to the next . How long have they been preparing tracks with dibs and dabs of irrigation without ever looking up and asking " is there another way ? " . Wouldn't want to upset his mates in the industry and therein lies the problem with opinions like these. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 16 minutes ago, curious said: Yeahh right. Tui ad. Sydney track managers don't hesitate to irrigate within 24 hours of start time especially based on raceday weather forecasts. We seem to be fixated on producing a D4 on raceday morning instead of focussing on a track that can be used based on the weather forecast. That said what would people rather have a D5/D6 or no races or roll the dice? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 10 minutes ago, Huey said: Wouldn't want to upset his mates in the industry and therein lies the problem with opinions like these. Also wants to make sure he stays part of the clik . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 12 minutes ago, Huey said: Wouldn't want to upset his mates in the industry and therein lies the problem with opinions like these. The first letter starts with C and the last with L Huey...... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 11 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: The first letter starts with C and the last with L Huey...... For those who don't know @Joe Bloggs is referring to his imaginary friend the "CarteL". Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chimbu Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 33 minutes ago, curious said: Yeahh right. Tui ad. For those not reading the thread in full the highlighted text quoted by Curious was the stated view of Albert Bosma. The words certainly aren't mine. I don't share his view! " it seems like they did everything right in terms of irrigation through the week. " Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 Yesterday's Cup being run on Friday at Palmy, excellent, the 3yo fillies race going to be run on the 18th back at NP , not perfect but I can live with it, but the 2yo black type race gets moved to TeRapa next Saturday, 6 of the 10 horses came from the north so have they said they wouldn't come back on the 18th , who knows, but that is now 2 black type 2yo races moved out of the CD . Mark my words, this will become more regular as northerners say they want these races closer to home, citing can't trust the races will run, less travel etc,etc . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: For those who don't know @Joe Bloggs is referring to his imaginary friend the "CarteL". Did I?.....now you're a psychic too?.......gee Chief, the next psychic's convention, you know where, you know when.. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 3 minutes ago, nomates said: Yesterday's Cup being run on Friday at Palmy, excellent, the 3yo fillies race going to be run on the 18th back at NP , not perfect but I can live with it, but the 2yo black type race gets moved to TeRapa next Saturday, 6 of the 10 horses came from the north so have they said they wouldn't come back on the 18th , who knows, but that is now 2 black type 2yo races moved out of the CD . Mark my words, this will become more regular as northerners say they want these races closer to home, citing can't trust the races will run, less travel etc,etc . Gotta luv those northerners mate, without them we'd be Donald Ducked......according to some in the know. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted February 6, 2022 Author Share Posted February 6, 2022 22 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Did I?.....now you're a psychic too?.......gee Chief, the next psychic's convention, you know where, you know when.. Well it is your favourite word and the members of it are as mysterious as your use of the term. Perhaps you cryptic post was more cryptic or idiosyncratic than usual for you. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 I hope you all appreciate that some poor bugger has had to go into work on a Sunday to make all these decisions and reschedule all these races. And Cameron and Bernie are probably both at Sunday BBQs in Oz and had to put their Chardonnays down for a minute to approve everything. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 9 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: Did I?.....now you're a psychic too?.......gee Chief, the next psychic's convention, you know where, you know when.. Psychic - the place starts with the letter " D " You - No ! Okay " C " No ! Oh , emm " B " No ! FFS " E " , " G " No , No , No , fuck me your hopeless, for someone who knows everything . Okay i give up , do you know where I can find a solid tree branch. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted February 6, 2022 Share Posted February 6, 2022 2 minutes ago, Doomed said: I hope you all appreciate that some poor bugger has had to go into work on a Sunday to make all these decisions and reschedule all these races. And Cameron and Bernie are probably both at Sunday BBQs in Oz and had to put their Chardonnays down for a minute to approve everything. Are these international phone calls costing the industry? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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