Joe Bloggs Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 I've not renewed my licence for this year in QLD as it's not far in advance of NZ, run by morons, and as they lag so far behind NSW in everything, why bother, The Goldie will be a bomb site for a fair while with all the reconstruction, and ''synthetic' going in, so we will leave our horses with a trainer over the border at Ballina. Only one hour away and looking at how the racing is going, country prize money and now the country races get 2 races a day worth K30 restricted to country trained only!!.......that's just terrific and a beaut incentive. Sadly Queensland is so far behind it's not funny, it was a corrupt state back when Joh bolted from NZ and ran things here, when I got here in 73 Big Russ Hinze ran racing and it was the ultimate boys club, not a lot has changed, the corruption is a little worse, so that's how bad it was back then, so NSW are the messiah's and industry leaders, why NZ is tailing off begs the question, is NZ corrupt? or just plain hopeless? only honest answers accepted. Racing NSW Announces $30m Prizemoney Increases & Record Infrastructure Investment Racing NSW today announced a further $30 million in prizemoney increases along with record investment in infrastructure and an additional share of prizemoney for both equine welfare and stable staff. As detailed below, these latest prizemoney announcements totalling $30 million will see total prizemoney paid in NSW increase to $358 million per annum. This is an increase of $239 million, or more than triple the prizemoney levels from 2012. Minimum prizemoney increases Minimum prizemoney for all levels of Country racing have been increased as follows: Picnic minimum prizemoney increases from $5,000 to $7,000 Non-TAB minimum prizemoney increases from $10,000 to $12,000 Sky 2 minimum prizemoney increases from $15,000 to $16,000 Country TAB minimum prizemoney increases from $25,000 to $27,000 In addition to the above minimum prizemoney increases, two races at every Country TAB race meeting will now be restricted to NSW Country trained horses only and will carry prizemoney of $30,000. Two races at every Country Showcase meeting will also be restricted to NSW Country trained horses and will carry prizemoney of $35,000. At some meetings this will be increased to three races. Additional prizemoney will also be offered in the Provincial sector, with two races at each Provincial race meeting carrying prizemoney of $45,000. One of these races will be restricted to Provincial trained horses only and the other will be restricted to Midway trained horses only. To build on the success of the Highway and Midway races, prizemoney for these races will increase from $100,000 to $120,000 per race at Saturday Metropolitan race meetings. Spring feature race increases In addition to the above minimum prizemoney increases, a number of feature races in spring have also received increases in prizemoney as follows: The Concorde Stakes will increase from $160,000 to $500,000 The Shorts will increase from $500,000 to $1 million The Premiere Stakes will increase from $500,000 to $1 million The Kosciuszko will increase from $1.3 million to $2 million The Sydney Stakes will increase from $500,000 to $2 million The Nature Strip stakes will increase from $1 million to $3 million There will also be two new races added to the spring carnival. A $1 million race will be added to Everest Day, called the Five Diamond Prelude, over 1500m for 5yos only, providing a lead up for the Five Diamonds. Also, a new $500,000 race will be added to Big Dance Day, called the Little Dance, for those horses eligible, but unable to gain a start in The Big Dance. New $6 million Sportsbet Sydney Sprint Series bonus The Everest is the feature of the NSW Spring Racing Carnival and the popularity of The Everest has quickly seen the surrounding sprint races develop significant interest and betting turnover. To further grow these sprint races across spring, a new $6 million bonus fully sponsored by Sportsbet will be paid to the horses winning the most points across the following six races. These races will be known as the Sportsbet Sydney Sprint Series: Race Name Date Track Distance Concorde Stakes 3 Sep 22 Randwick 1000m The Shorts 17 Sep 22 Randwick 1100m Premiere Stakes 1 Oct 22 Randwick 1200m The Everest 15 Oct 22 Randwick 1200m Sydney Stakes 15 Oct 22 Randwick 1200m Nature Strip Stakes 29 Oct 22 Randwick 1300m Points will be awarded based on 5 points for 1st, 4 points for 2nd, 3 points for 3rd, 2 points for 4th and 1 point for 5th in each of the first 5 races. Double points will be awarded for the Nature Strip Stakes on Golden Eagle Day. It will also be a condition of the bonus that horses must have competed in at least 3 races in the series to be eligible. Autumn feature race increases There have also been increases in prizemoney for key races during the Sydney Autumn Carnival: The Queen Elizabeth Stakes will increase from $4 million to $5 million The Doncaster Mile will increase from $3 million to $4 million The TJ Smith Stakes will increase from $2.5 million to $3 million The Galaxy will increase from $700,000 to $1 million The Ranvet Stakes will increase from $700,000 to $1 million Infrastructure funding Also announced today was an infrastructure project fund of $125 million that will be delivered by Racing NSW over the next two years. This project fund includes $70 million in grants received from the NSW State Government who continue to support the NSW Thoroughbred Racing Industry participants and $55 million set aside by Racing NSW. These projects range from construction of stables, new training tracks, course proper works, customer facilities, raceday amenities and jockeys rooms right across the state. Racing NSW will continue to work with race clubs and participants regarding the allocation of these funds. Change in prizemoney distribution In July 2012 Racing NSW introduced the 1.5% strappers bonus, being the first state in Australia to do so. This bonus provides a significant reward for the industry’s lowest paid workers, letting them share in the success of their stables. As part of announcements today, Racing NSW will be increasing the strappers bonus from 1.5% to 2% of prizemoney. In October 2016 Racing NSW introduced the Equine Welfare Fund which receives 1% of all prizemoney paid, being the first state in Australia to do so. These funds are used to care for, retrain and rehome NSW Thoroughbred racehorses. This Equine Welfare Fund share of prizemoney will increase to 1.5%. The above prizemoney increases and changes in the distribution of prizemoney will come into effect from 1 September 2022. A schedule of all increases is attached to this release. Racing NSW Chairman, Russell Balding AO said: “NSW Country racing is the bedrock of our industry, it is important therefore that we ensure the ongoing viability of country racing and the sustainability of our country trainers. “Total prizemoney for Everest Day will now be a staggering $21.8 million which far exceeds any other race meeting in Australia and cements Everest Day’s place on the International Stage of premier racing,” Mr Balding AO added. SCHEDULE OF PRIZEMONEY INCREASES DESCRIPTION CURRENTP/MONEY NEW P/MONEY RACE INCREASE MINIMUM PRIZEMONEY Picnic minimum prizemoney 5,000 7,000 2,000 Country Non-TAB minimum prizemoney 10,000 12,000 2,000 Country Sky2 minimum prizemoney 15,000 16,000 1,000 Country TAB minimum prizemoney 25,000 27,000 2,000 Country trained only - 2 races per program, possibly 3 25,000 30,000 5,000 Showcase country trained only - 2 races per program, possibly 3 30,000 35,000 5,000 Prov only and Midway races - 2 races per Provincial program 40,000 45,000 5,000 Midway increase 100,000 120,000 20,000 Highway increase 100,000 120,000 20,000 SPRING CARNIVAL Concorde Stakes 160,000 500,000 340,000 The Shorts 500,000 1,000,000 500,000 Premiere Stakes 500,000 1,000,000 500,000 Sydney Stakes 500,000 2,000,000 1,500,000 Winner's Stakes 1,000,000 3,000,000 2,000,000 Kosciuszko 1,300,000 2,000,000 700,000 Five Diamond Prelude - 1,000,000 1,000,000 Four Pillars 150,000 500,000 350,000 The Little Dance 50,000 500,000 450,000 Other Big Dance Day races - 500,000 500,000 Sportsbet Sydney Sprint Series bonus - 6,000,000 6,000,000 AUTUMN CARNIVAL Queen Elizabeth Stakes 4,000,000 5,000,000 1,000,000 Doncaster Mile 3,000,000 4,000,000 1,000,000 TJ Smith Stakes 2,500,000 3,000,000 500,000 The Galaxy 700,000 1,000,000 300,000 The Ranvet 700,000 1,000,000 300,000 The Latest Racing News Racing NSW Announces $30m Prizemoney Increases & Record Infrastructure Investment Racing NSW today announced a further $30 million in prizemoney increases along with record investment in infrastructure and an additional ...Read More 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KickintheKods Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 (edited) True mate....very true. Even Lee has commented about it in the last few minutes: Edited August 3, 2022 by KickintheKods Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 He was my next-door neighbour for 5 years at Flemington, I'll never understand, ever, why a man with that talent is here on the Gold Coast........he doesn't even wear white shoes FFS! 1 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 They seem to encourage the real grass roots over there, quite different to the NZ approach. Who knows what approach is best, perhaps NZ might surprise them. And I don't know about continually introducing new races all the time. Have they not heard of tradition? The last new race to be introduced in NZ was the Bayer Classic. Surely one every 40 years or so is more than enough? 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 What are they doing wasting $$ on the Grassroots for , utter madness , its got to come top down thats the only way it'll work like here in NZ! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 48 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: why NZ is tailing off begs the question, is NZ corrupt? or just plain hopeless? only honest answers accepted. Yeah that one , just plain hopeless . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 3 minutes ago, Huey said: What are they doing wasting $$ on the Grassroots for , utter madness , its got to come top down thats the only way it'll work like here in NZ! Typical Aussies, cart before the horse. I suppose we may have to forget about attracting Aussies over here for our "massive" stakes. We do still have the easiest black type though. 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 49 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: I've not renewed my licence for this year in QLD as it's not far in advance of NZ, run by morons, and as they lag so far behind NSW in everything, why bother, The Goldie will be a bomb site for a fair while with all the reconstruction, and ''synthetic' going in, so we will leave our horses with a trainer over the border at Ballina. Only one hour away and looking at how the racing is going, country prize money and now the country races get 2 races a day worth K30 restricted to country trained only!!.......that's just terrific and a beaut incentive. Sadly Queensland is so far behind it's not funny, it was a corrupt state back when Joh bolted from NZ and ran things here, when I got here in 73 Big Russ Hinze ran racing and it was the ultimate boys club, not a lot has changed, the corruption is a little worse, so that's how bad it was back then, so NSW are the messiah's and industry leaders, why NZ is tailing off begs the question, is NZ corrupt? or just plain hopeless? only honest answers accepted. Racing NSW Announces $30m Prizemoney Increases & Record Infrastructure Investment Racing NSW today announced a further $30 million in prizemoney increases along with record investment in infrastructure and an additional share of prizemoney for both equine welfare and stable staff. As detailed below, these latest prizemoney announcements totalling $30 million will see total prizemoney paid in NSW increase to $358 million per annum. This is an increase of $239 million, or more than triple the prizemoney levels from 2012. Minimum prizemoney increases Minimum prizemoney for all levels of Country racing have been increased as follows: Picnic minimum prizemoney increases from $5,000 to $7,000 Non-TAB minimum prizemoney increases from $10,000 to $12,000 Sky 2 minimum prizemoney increases from $15,000 to $16,000 Country TAB minimum prizemoney increases from $25,000 to $27,000 In addition to the above minimum prizemoney increases, two races at every Country TAB race meeting will now be restricted to NSW Country trained horses only and will carry prizemoney of $30,000. Two races at every Country Showcase meeting will also be restricted to NSW Country trained horses and will carry prizemoney of $35,000. At some meetings this will be increased to three races. Additional prizemoney will also be offered in the Provincial sector, with two races at each Provincial race meeting carrying prizemoney of $45,000. One of these races will be restricted to Provincial trained horses only and the other will be restricted to Midway trained horses only. To build on the success of the Highway and Midway races, prizemoney for these races will increase from $100,000 to $120,000 per race at Saturday Metropolitan race meetings. Spring feature race increases In addition to the above minimum prizemoney increases, a number of feature races in spring have also received increases in prizemoney as follows: The Concorde Stakes will increase from $160,000 to $500,000 The Shorts will increase from $500,000 to $1 million The Premiere Stakes will increase from $500,000 to $1 million The Kosciuszko will increase from $1.3 million to $2 million The Sydney Stakes will increase from $500,000 to $2 million The Nature Strip stakes will increase from $1 million to $3 million There will also be two new races added to the spring carnival. A $1 million race will be added to Everest Day, called the Five Diamond Prelude, over 1500m for 5yos only, providing a lead up for the Five Diamonds. Also, a new $500,000 race will be added to Big Dance Day, called the Little Dance, for those horses eligible, but unable to gain a start in The Big Dance. New $6 million Sportsbet Sydney Sprint Series bonus The Everest is the feature of the NSW Spring Racing Carnival and the popularity of The Everest has quickly seen the surrounding sprint races develop significant interest and betting turnover. To further grow these sprint races across spring, a new $6 million bonus fully sponsored by Sportsbet will be paid to the horses winning the most points across the following six races. These races will be known as the Sportsbet Sydney Sprint Series: Race Name Date Track Distance Concorde Stakes 3 Sep 22 Randwick 1000m The Shorts 17 Sep 22 Randwick 1100m Premiere Stakes 1 Oct 22 Randwick 1200m The Everest 15 Oct 22 Randwick 1200m Sydney Stakes 15 Oct 22 Randwick 1200m Nature Strip Stakes 29 Oct 22 Randwick 1300m Points will be awarded based on 5 points for 1st, 4 points for 2nd, 3 points for 3rd, 2 points for 4th and 1 point for 5th in each of the first 5 races. Double points will be awarded for the Nature Strip Stakes on Golden Eagle Day. It will also be a condition of the bonus that horses must have competed in at least 3 races in the series to be eligible. Autumn feature race increases There have also been increases in prizemoney for key races during the Sydney Autumn Carnival: The Queen Elizabeth Stakes will increase from $4 million to $5 million The Doncaster Mile will increase from $3 million to $4 million The TJ Smith Stakes will increase from $2.5 million to $3 million The Galaxy will increase from $700,000 to $1 million The Ranvet Stakes will increase from $700,000 to $1 million Infrastructure funding Also announced today was an infrastructure project fund of $125 million that will be delivered by Racing NSW over the next two years. This project fund includes $70 million in grants received from the NSW State Government who continue to support the NSW Thoroughbred Racing Industry participants and $55 million set aside by Racing NSW. These projects range from construction of stables, new training tracks, course proper works, customer facilities, raceday amenities and jockeys rooms right across the state. Racing NSW will continue to work with race clubs and participants regarding the allocation of these funds. Change in prizemoney distribution In July 2012 Racing NSW introduced the 1.5% strappers bonus, being the first state in Australia to do so. This bonus provides a significant reward for the industry’s lowest paid workers, letting them share in the success of their stables. As part of announcements today, Racing NSW will be increasing the strappers bonus from 1.5% to 2% of prizemoney. In October 2016 Racing NSW introduced the Equine Welfare Fund which receives 1% of all prizemoney paid, being the first state in Australia to do so. These funds are used to care for, retrain and rehome NSW Thoroughbred racehorses. This Equine Welfare Fund share of prizemoney will increase to 1.5%. The above prizemoney increases and changes in the distribution of prizemoney will come into effect from 1 September 2022. A schedule of all increases is attached to this release. Racing NSW Chairman, Russell Balding AO said: “NSW Country racing is the bedrock of our industry, it is important therefore that we ensure the ongoing viability of country racing and the sustainability of our country trainers. “Total prizemoney for Everest Day will now be a staggering $21.8 million which far exceeds any other race meeting in Australia and cements Everest Day’s place on the International Stage of premier racing,” Mr Balding AO added. SCHEDULE OF PRIZEMONEY INCREASES DESCRIPTION CURRENTP/MONEY NEW P/MONEY RACE INCREASE MINIMUM PRIZEMONEY Picnic minimum prizemoney 5,000 7,000 2,000 Country Non-TAB minimum prizemoney 10,000 12,000 2,000 Country Sky2 minimum prizemoney 15,000 16,000 1,000 Country TAB minimum prizemoney 25,000 27,000 2,000 Country trained only - 2 races per program, possibly 3 25,000 30,000 5,000 Showcase country trained only - 2 races per program, possibly 3 30,000 35,000 5,000 Prov only and Midway races - 2 races per Provincial program 40,000 45,000 5,000 Midway increase 100,000 120,000 20,000 Highway increase 100,000 120,000 20,000 SPRING CARNIVAL Concorde Stakes 160,000 500,000 340,000 The Shorts 500,000 1,000,000 500,000 Premiere Stakes 500,000 1,000,000 500,000 Sydney Stakes 500,000 2,000,000 1,500,000 Winner's Stakes 1,000,000 3,000,000 2,000,000 Kosciuszko 1,300,000 2,000,000 700,000 Five Diamond Prelude - 1,000,000 1,000,000 Four Pillars 150,000 500,000 350,000 The Little Dance 50,000 500,000 450,000 Other Big Dance Day races - 500,000 500,000 Sportsbet Sydney Sprint Series bonus - 6,000,000 6,000,000 AUTUMN CARNIVAL Queen Elizabeth Stakes 4,000,000 5,000,000 1,000,000 Doncaster Mile 3,000,000 4,000,000 1,000,000 TJ Smith Stakes 2,500,000 3,000,000 500,000 The Galaxy 700,000 1,000,000 300,000 The Ranvet 700,000 1,000,000 300,000 The Latest Racing News Racing NSW Announces $30m Prizemoney Increases & Record Infrastructure Investment Racing NSW today announced a further $30 million in prizemoney increases along with record investment in infrastructure and an additional ...Read More The whole set up is quite frankly staggering , envy doesn't even start to cover my feelings . But fair due NZTR have made some announcements in the last few days regarding stake increases . For a couple of races on the Cambridge A/W . We're not that far behind , are we ? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 Industry days over here we are racing for their Non TAB stakes - astonishing really. How long before their Picnic meetings catch up to our Industry days....6 months??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 How the hell do they fund it? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 39 minutes ago, Huey said: Industry days over here we are racing for their Non TAB stakes - astonishing really. Considering how small our turnovers are in comparison some would be mistaken for thinking all our meetings were non TAB meetings . 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 41 minutes ago, Reefton said: How the hell do they fund it? Gambling culture Brian, Gambling culture, purely and simply. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Joe Bloggs said: Gambling culture Brian, Gambling culture, purely and simply. I think @Reefton was asking how do they fund non-TAB racedays. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 minute ago, Chief Stipe said: I think @Reefton was asking how do they fund non-TAB racedays. And as I said, gambling culture, most of those days are at small country towns and yet hundreds arrive on coaches or broomsticks in some cases, any shortfall is made up from the huge surplus that is derived from the mainstream meetings, and to support real, real grass roots racing. Lots of million dollar buys end their days racing at those far flung meetings, sometimes a second, third or fourth chance......thank God, they also provide incomes for bush bookies, bush trainers and bush owners, and a brilliant day out for everyone else. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 28 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: I think @Reefton was asking how do they fund non-TAB racedays. That's what he was answering wasn't it? There are still bookies and wagering revenue to fund them as there were before there was a TAB. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 20 minutes ago, curious said: That's what he was answering wasn't it? There are still bookies and wagering revenue to fund them as there were before there was a TAB. His answer was "gambling culture".....a few dots to connect after that. Although it would seem the "gambling culture" isn't the same in Queensland or South Australia. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 9 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: His answer was "gambling culture".....a few dots to connect after that. Although it would seem the "gambling culture" isn't the same in Queensland or South Australia. Oh yes it is, more so in fact, rural QLD they are rabid punters, the problem is with the piss poor sick and festering State Gov, their take out and financial rape of the pools and now the bookmakers is gut wrenching, so much so, Sportsbet don't advertise the QLD fields anymore, you have to search for them........there you go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted August 3, 2022 Author Share Posted August 3, 2022 “Punters are suffering”: Sportsbet stands firm in QLD tax fight Bookmaker Sportsbet will continue its relegation of Queensland racing as calls for an overhaul of the state’s fee structure intensify. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted August 3, 2022 Share Posted August 3, 2022 1 hour ago, Chief Stipe said: I think @Reefton was asking how do they fund non-TAB racedays. no he wasnt Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 3/08/2022 at 4:27 PM, Joe Bloggs said: “Punters are suffering”: Sportsbet stands firm in QLD tax fight Bookmaker Sportsbet will continue its relegation of Queensland racing as calls for an overhaul of the state’s fee structure intensify. So most Queensland and South Austalian punters spend their money on Victoria and NSW racing? Bit like NZ. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted August 4, 2022 Share Posted August 4, 2022 On 3/08/2022 at 5:15 PM, Reefton said: no he wasnt Ok you posted a rhetorical question? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted August 8, 2022 Share Posted August 8, 2022 Yet more sense from across the Tasman https://www.racing.com/news/2022-08-08/news-feature-the-docs-declaration-8822?fbclid=IwAR1_2HW2aqPKohDgWRtEgxCkUEZ9hVpTo3s61Ip8rwKpAhXQVY_3B-4Y8Yw 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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