mikeynz Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I see that guy Sharrock last night suggesting closing borders for betting a very real prospect, thoughts on this one. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 I haven't seen a proposal or business case for this from NZTR yet. What did he think the benefits for the racing industry might be? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 1 hour ago, curious said: I haven't seen a proposal or business case for this from NZTR yet. What did he think the benefits for the racing industry might be? Guerin asked the question, seems by the talk its a real possibility, benefits, fairly obvious. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 37 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Guerin asked the question, seems by the talk its a real possibility, benefits, fairly obvious. Tell us please. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 6 minutes ago, Freda said: Tell us please. Simply want all the money bet off shore, no more Sportsbet, Ladbrokes etc etc. Benefits obvious , not my words, just the general assumption I suspect lots might pull the pin if it was close border betting Edited September 27, 2022 by mikeynz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 If I was a bookie, I'd lay odds you suspect correct Mikey, I'd say, lots more than lots, could be heaps, or bazillions, even gazillions......vote with your feet. I'll tell you what I'll do Mikey, if they do that, I'll give you poor buggers my cell no, no, not that cell, my mobile, and you can bet with me, I'll do that for the thousands of disenfranchised Kiwi's done over by a quasi Nazi outfit, driven by stupidity and desperation...there you go....how's that for transparency and commitment?.....#bloggsbet 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 5 hours ago, mikeynz said: I see that guy Sharrock last night suggesting closing borders for betting a very real prospect, thoughts on this one. Wasn't long ago he was talking about all the diverse income streams NZTR had with the various betting agencies paying commissions to them Was that just a BS line? He and his cronies would be better to turn their attention of why Kiwis bet offshore than attempting to stop them doing so 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Just now, Reefton said: Wasn't long ago he was talking about all the diverse income streams NZTR had with the various betting agencies paying commissions to them Was that just a BS line? He and his cronies would be better to turn their attention of why Kiwis bet offshore than attempting to stop them doing so when I say BS line I mean bulshit line not Bruce Sharrock line Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, mikeynz said: Guerin asked the question, seems by the talk its a real possibility, benefits, fairly obvious. Obvious to whom and what are they? To me the risks are obvious but not the benefits. Edited September 27, 2022 by curious 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 hours ago, curious said: Obvious to whom and what are they? To me the risks are obvious but not the benefits. Watch the interview , Mikeynz is only the messenger here. I thought the CEO looked very glum and looks like he is under a considerable amount of pressure, not one bit surprised given the legacy of incompetence that has been in these roles for years on end, it must be very difficult (especially with the Bernard hospital pass) even considering the $$$ he and his cohorts are on to portray some sort of positive future for the sport in this country. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Huey Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Some punters seem to be interpreting this as though they won't be able to bet on Aus racing, I doubt that is the case as I'd assume its only going to be the operator that is affected i.e. punters can only bet with NZ TAB? It will for sure happen. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 12 hours ago, Joe Bloggs said: If I was a bookie, I'd lay odds you suspect correct Mikey, I'd say, lots more than lots, could be heaps, or bazillions, even gazillions......vote with your feet. I'll tell you what I'll do Mikey, if they do that, I'll give you poor buggers my cell no, no, not that cell, my mobile, and you can bet with me, I'll do that for the thousands of disenfranchised Kiwi's done over by a quasi Nazi outfit, driven by stupidity and desperation...there you go....how's that for transparency and commitment?.....#bloggsbet Can you or anybody else explain to me why you have to call the betting agency to place a live Sportsbet in Aussie, that seems weird. Edited September 27, 2022 by mikeynz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bloggs Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 And yet you can bet in running on most portals here, up to the 500m mark in some cases, sport? it makes no sense Mikey, it's an archaic way to bet....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 The real issue here with closing borders is Aussie betting sites and racing, yet sites like Betway, 10 bet, bet365 based in Europe really just do sport and casino games etc etc, woudnt make any sense blocking them as they mostly of no great issue ,its the racing guys who are wanting change. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 35 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Can you or anybody else explain to me why you have to call the betting agency to place a live Sportsbet in Aussie, that seems weird. You don't. You can place it instantaneously online? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 3 hours ago, Huey said: Watch the interview , Mikeynz is only the messenger here. I thought the CEO looked very glum and looks like he is under a considerable amount of pressure, not one bit surprised given the legacy of incompetence that has been in these roles for years on end, it must be very difficult (especially with the Bernard hospital pass) even considering the $$$ he and his cohorts are on to portray some sort of positive future for the sport in this country. Sorry Huey, don't have an hour of my time to waste watching it. Did watch a few segments some time ago but certainly not in the last couple of years. Also, looks like Guerin is fronting it so I doubt any serious questions would have been asked. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 6 minutes ago, curious said: You don't. You can place it instantaneously online? Ladbrokes Australia, to place a live bet phone in , just looked. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 (edited) 9 minutes ago, curious said: Sorry Huey, don't have an hour of my time to waste watching it. Did watch a few segments some time ago but certainly not in the last couple of years. Also, looks like Guerin is fronting it so I doubt any serious questions would have been asked. Emily Bosson is back next time. I dont watch often. Edited September 27, 2022 by mikeynz Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 45 minutes ago, mikeynz said: Ladbrokes Australia, to place a live bet phone in , just looked. By a live bet, do you mean an in-play one? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 27, 2022 Author Share Posted September 27, 2022 53 minutes ago, curious said: By a live bet, do you mean an in-play one? Correct, seems odd to me. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted September 27, 2022 Share Posted September 27, 2022 Yes. Checked my Ladbroke's account. You seem to be right. I don't do in-play betting. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 17 hours ago, mikeynz said: Simply want all the money bet off shore, no more Sportsbet, Ladbrokes etc etc. would restricted punters be exempt from this "border closure" Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mikeynz Posted September 28, 2022 Author Share Posted September 28, 2022 2 hours ago, Rangatira said: would restricted punters be exempt from this "border closure" Would restricting punters be banned? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rangatira Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 1 minute ago, mikeynz said: Would restricting punters be banned? be great for my eardrums Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mark D Posted September 28, 2022 Share Posted September 28, 2022 On 28/09/2022 at 7:11 AM, Huey said: Watch the interview , Mikeynz is only the messenger here. I thought the CEO looked very glum and looks like he is under a considerable amount of pressure, not one bit surprised given the legacy of incompetence that has been in these roles for years on end, it must be very difficult (especially with the Bernard hospital pass) even considering the $$$ he and his cohorts are on to portray some sort of positive future for the sport in this country. Those "green shoots" he talked about must require a microscope to see rather than a magnifying glass. Won't be the last person who gets a job thinking he alone has the ability to turn things around and will - but can't. Hubris I think they call it. Same as George at the Warriors. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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