BitofaLegend Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Is everything fine here? I notice all their dogs were scratched 2 weeks ago and havent had a single one race since? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted October 4, 2022 Share Posted October 4, 2022 Mr. Dore will have the information you seek. Whether he'll share any of it or not is another question. He seems to be GRNZ's contact person for the areas (so far) I've heard recent issues revolve around. Those issues are creating the cloud you're now trying to see thru. I've checked the GRNZ website, but no advisory (or reminders to all LP's) has been posted. This can sometimes be a precursor to what's ahead. Maybe they're waiting for the media to reach out to them for comment like they did with two people being charged in the Addington incident not so long ago (still yet to be heard). Funny things seem to start happening inside headquarters when the investigating reporters start ringing. Isn't this right Mr Dore? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 2, 2022 Share Posted December 2, 2022 So what's happening with the alleged live/dead baiting & Cobalt positive swab? Surely both of these need to be heard by the RIB. Maybe Mr Dore needs reminding? 2 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 (edited) After Mr Dore is done trying to sweep the O'Regan Cobalt + and live/dead baiting incidents under the carpet, he might as well keep his broom out because it's time this one is addressed again. https://www.grnz.co.nz/News/2864/16-June-2022-GRNZ-Media-Release-re-charges-laid- It's been nearly 6 months since the charges were laid, therefore even longer since the alleged offences were committed, so what is the hold up? Has it been passed on to the SPCA so they can drag their feet for a couple of years before the crown prosecutor can withdraw the charges so they can walk away free & continue racing dogs? Just like they have for the last many months? Just like Cole did? Edited December 6, 2022 by Yankiwi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 On 4/10/2022 at 4:40 PM, BitofaLegend said: Is everything fine here?I notice all their dogs were scratched 2 weeks ago and havent had a single one race since? I assumed that the annual seasonal kennel cough had struck,resulting in 21 day standdown for team,as happened to Steeles (Mum,Dad & Corey)recently. On the weekend,aware O'Regan Team had returned to Racetracks/then again 'missing in action'!!! So,looked at their results for November/December: 03rd Nov = No runners 06th Nov =7.67.568.67.156.78. 10th Nov = No runners 13th Nov = 7.37.3.2.8 17th Nov = No runners 20th Nov = 56.45.358.58.6 24th Nov = No runners 28th Nov = 6.46.7.7.35. 01st Dec = No runners 04th Dec = No runners 08th Dec = No runners ONE Winner:ONE Second:FOUR Thirds:THIRTY Unplaced Now Yankiwi refers to Cobalt & Baiting Incidents hitherto 'being swept under carpet' Perish the thought that this has occurred. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 4 hours ago, Taupiri Wonder said: I assumed that the annual seasonal kennel cough had struck,resulting in 21 day standdown for team,as happened to Steeles (Mum,Dad & Corey)recently. On the weekend,aware O'Regan Team had returned to Racetracks/then again 'missing in action'!!! So,looked at their results for November/December: 03rd Nov = No runners 06th Nov =7.67.568.67.156.78. 10th Nov = No runners 13th Nov = 7.37.3.2.8 17th Nov = No runners 20th Nov = 56.45.358.58.6 24th Nov = No runners 28th Nov = 6.46.7.7.35. 01st Dec = No runners 04th Dec = No runners 08th Dec = No runners ONE Winner:ONE Second:FOUR Thirds:THIRTY Unplaced Now Yankiwi refers to Cobalt & Baiting Incidents hitherto 'being swept under carpet' Perish the thought that this has occurred. https://www.grnz.co.nz/catch-the-action/15183/stewards-report.aspx All his dogs were scratched on 25 Sept. That would have been shortly after he had been notified of the swab. During that in-person kennel visit notification by the RIB, the live/dead baiting evidence was discovered. For an interesting comparison, if you like to check it out, compare the numbers you already have for 5 weeks Nov & Dec with the numbers from 5 weeks early-July to mid-Sept, just prior to the scratching. It won't prove or disprove anything, but it might uncover a very interesting trend. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted December 6, 2022 Share Posted December 6, 2022 2 hours ago, Yankiwi said: For an interesting comparison, if you like to check it out, compare the numbers you already have for 5 weeks Nov & Dec with the numbers from 5 weeks early-July to mid-Sept, just prior to the scratching. It won't prove or disprove anything, but it might uncover a very interesting trend. I could compare when I get time. But I do recall Auckland Club highlighting two races when Team O'Regan posed for photos on the dais after a 1-2-3 finish. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted December 14, 2022 Share Posted December 14, 2022 On 6/12/2022 at 3:09 PM, Taupiri Wonder said: I assumed that the annual seasonal kennel cough had struck,resulting in 21 day standdown for team,as happened to Steeles (Mum,Dad & Corey)recently. On the weekend,aware O'Regan Team had returned to Racetracks/then again 'missing in action'!!! So,looked at their results for November/December: 03rd Nov = No runners 06th Nov =7.67.568.67.156.78. 10th Nov = No runners 13th Nov = 7.37.3.2.8 17th Nov = No runners 20th Nov = 56.45.358.58.6 24th Nov = No runners 28th Nov = 6.46.7.7.35. 01st Dec = No runners 04th Dec = No runners 08th Dec = No runners ONE Winner:ONE Second:FOUR Thirds:THIRTY Unplaced Now Yankiwi refers to Cobalt & Baiting Incidents hitherto 'being swept under carpet' Perish the thought that this has occurred. Here's the "pre scratching" data. 11 potential race meetings used to compare. 14 Aug 2022 = 248.13.5.6.26 21 Aug 2022 = 4.7.23.26.2.26.24 25 Aug 2022 = 567.4.46.5 28 Aug 2022 = 23.3.247.2.58.24 01 Sep 2022 = 567.27.46.24 04 Sep 2022 = 4.2456.123.56.6.47 08 Sep 2022 = 345.4.4 11 Sep 2022 = 1.1235.57.1356.7.37 15 Sep 2022 = 567.47.5.2 18 Sep 2022 = 5.27.16.8.5.56.346. 22 Sep 2022 = No runners Pre (covered up) positive swab ~ FIVE Winners : EIGHTEEN Seconds : TEN Thirds : SIXTYFOUR Unplaced 33 in the money : 64 out of the money = 34% in the money Post (covered up) positive swab ~ ONE Winner : ONE Second : FOUR Thirds : THIRTY Unplaced 6 in the money : 30 out of the money = 17% in the money In the money TWICE as often prior to the cover-up. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BitofaLegend Posted December 16, 2022 Author Share Posted December 16, 2022 On 15/12/2022 at 11:22 AM, Yankiwi said: Here's the "pre scratching" data. 11 potential race meetings used to compare. 14 Aug 2022 = 248.13.5.6.26 21 Aug 2022 = 4.7.23.26.2.26.24 25 Aug 2022 = 567.4.46.5 28 Aug 2022 = 23.3.247.2.58.24 01 Sep 2022 = 567.27.46.24 04 Sep 2022 = 4.2456.123.56.6.47 08 Sep 2022 = 345.4.4 11 Sep 2022 = 1.1235.57.1356.7.37 15 Sep 2022 = 567.47.5.2 18 Sep 2022 = 5.27.16.8.5.56.346. 22 Sep 2022 = No runners Pre (covered up) positive swab ~ FIVE Winners : EIGHTEEN Seconds : TEN Thirds : SIXTYFOUR Unplaced 33 in the money : 64 out of the money = 34% in the money Post (covered up) positive swab ~ ONE Winner : ONE Second : FOUR Thirds : THIRTY Unplaced 6 in the money : 30 out of the money = 17% in the money In the money TWICE as often prior to the cover-up. Not a completely fair lookup. Most of the races have been at cambrige since and his dogs generally dont do well Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Finally published. https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/non-raceday-inquiry-reserved-penalty-decision-dated-23-december-2022-ronald-oregan-and-nyomi-oregan/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 16 hours ago, Yankiwi said: Finally published. https://racingintegrityboard.org.nz/decisions/non-raceday-inquiry-reserved-penalty-decision-dated-23-december-2022-ronald-oregan-and-nyomi-oregan/ Shafted on a bullshit charge. Good grounds here to test the rule in a Court of Law. I realize Ron doesn't have pocketfuls of cash to go to the High Court, but Industry LP's could levy themselves and pay the costs for an action to a higher court and have the ridiculous thrown out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
That Girl Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 God the game (and 'woke' society) has gone to the pack. Couple of trainers i worked for a decade ago would be locked up for many many years and be fined $1mil by today's standards! Given that they were doing much more than storing things in their freezer ! SMH! Surely Cole/Craig Rendal (who ship off all their sub standard dogs to O'Regan) will pay this fine for him, given that a) they're Millionaires and b) they have perpetrated far far worse than this over the years... it's absolutely disgusting. 3 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 22, 2023 Share Posted January 22, 2023 On 19/01/2023 at 11:23 AM, aquaman said: Shafted on a bullshit charge. Good grounds here to test the rule in a Court of Law. I realize Ron doesn't have pocketfuls of cash to go to the High Court, but Industry LP's could levy themselves and pay the costs for an action to a higher court and have the ridiculous thrown out. Wouldn't a dog roll or a string of sausages tied to a lure be just as effective? 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 35 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: Wouldn't a dog roll or a string of sausages tied to a lure be just as effective? Short answer no Chief. When breaking in pups I used to use a reward like a bit of meat once they were learning to chase the lure. I would go to the trial track with pups unfed on that morning, tie on to the lure my own possum skin that was stuffed with a squeaker inside, have somebody slip them after lure usually into the bend and I would be there at the catch praising them if they chased hard, slipping the piece of meat as reward. Minced beef rolled into a small ball was my favorite. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chief Stipe Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 41 minutes ago, aquaman said: Short answer no Chief. When breaking in pups I used to use a reward like a bit of meat once they were learning to chase the lure. I would go to the trial track with pups unfed on that morning, tie on to the lure my own possum skin that was stuffed with a squeaker inside, have somebody slip them after lure usually into the bend and I would be there at the catch praising them if they chased hard, slipping the piece of meat as reward. Minced beef rolled into a small ball was my favorite. What about minced rabbit? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aquaman Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 16 minutes ago, Chief Stipe said: What about minced rabbit? For me it was minced beef because of convenience, but nothing wrong with rabbit if thats your choice. Sometimes I used dog roll rolled into a small ball. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Honestjohn Posted January 23, 2023 Share Posted January 23, 2023 We used to wave a towel at the end of a straight line when racing whippets in the 60s at ruapuna. Man that's going back, no sausages or mince, lol. Anyone remember Stan gain? Hj Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Taupiri Wonder Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 Oh Dear Oh Dear: Today at Manukau,all O'Regan runners scratched,as per Rule 25 (4A) This refers to Minimum vaccination requirements not met. So,13 runners drawn in fields,after being scratched, left The Club with field sizes of *3*4*5*5 and only one/or two divies win/place. Note the best 'over the odds' quinella dividend I have ever seen in Race 2. 3 dog field,only 3 possible combinations,hot fav @ $1.30 wins.Quinella pays $19.00 🤑(Trifecta pays $6.90) 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Yankiwi Posted March 23, 2023 Share Posted March 23, 2023 I wonder if GRNZ will stick to their guns or allow this to be swept under the carpet. Also part of rule 25. 25 Minimum vaccination requirements 6) Unless GRNZ determines otherwise, a greyhound must not compete in any Event within seven days of the date it was administered a vaccine. Best can scenario, they get their jabs this afternoon & can be available to race next Friday. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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