Reefton Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 24 minutes ago, Freda said: Yes, it certainly has. And the comment was made tongue in cheek, but seemingly you didn't get it. I've had female apprentices and many of the immigrant riders are my friends. But the clock in the head is badly lacking in many of them. The training of young riders ATM is creating a real problem. My former partner, a good rider in his day, used to reckon it was becoming next to impossible to ride a good race. Defensive driving was the order of the day. Bill Kennedy, a bloody good trainer, used to reckon he liked having your former partner on his horses because he could see the trouble coming far ahead and would get out of the road. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nomates Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 30 minutes ago, Joe Bloggs said: As a sideline, the best jockey in NZ suspended for 6 weeks, 6 bloody weeks for the carnage he caused, hello, what a role model, he's fucking lucky one of them isn't in a wheelchair, FFS.... You think he has problems , at Ashburton poor old Kin Kwo had a horse go over backwards on him and taken to the hospital , but for some reason he has to produce a vet certificate before he can ride again , Freda can you help here , does he look like a horse or have any other physical similarities to a horse ? Just curious . 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 12 minutes ago, nomates said: You think he has problems , at Ashburton poor old Kin Kwo had a horse go over backwards on him and taken to the hospital , but for some reason he has to produce a vet certificate before he can ride again , Freda can you help here , does he look like a horse or have any other physical similarities to a horse ? Just curious . No, Kin looks like a young Malaysian man of Chinese ethnicity....nothing equine about his appearance at all 🤔 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 44 minutes ago, Reefton said: Bill Kennedy, a bloody good trainer, used to reckon he liked having your former partner on his horses because he could see the trouble coming far ahead and would get out of the road. He was pretty canny all right. Street smart. That's exactly the matter that J.B.was referring to, the falls that we see now compared with the relatively few in his riding days. Now, many just don't see what's coming, they don't know their times, they can't read a race. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doomed Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 1 hour ago, Joe Bloggs said: As a sideline, the best jockey in NZ suspended for 6 weeks, 6 bloody weeks for the carnage he caused, hello, what a role model, he's fucking lucky one of them isn't in a wheelchair, FFS.... It certainly looked bad, I did wonder what he would get. With all the suspended and injured jockeys after today the ranks are getting thin. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Reefton Posted October 15, 2022 Author Share Posted October 15, 2022 51 minutes ago, Freda said: He was pretty canny all right. Street smart. That's exactly the matter that J.B.was referring to, the falls that we see now compared with the relatively few in his riding days. Now, many just don't see what's coming, they don't know their times, they can't read a race. Since he was on our committee another thing your ex partner used to do was every Reefton raceday, with the full support of the stipes, he would walk the track with the apprentices and talk to them about how to ride it. I think David Walsh does it now but a bloody good common sense use of experience to(hopefully) prevent accidents. He was also rather handy when that horse ran straight ahead past the post one day. In the ensuing witchhunt to blame the track it was awfully handy to have someone with real expertise to declare 'pilot error' 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 15, 2022 Share Posted October 15, 2022 11 hours ago, Freda said: No, Kin looks like a young Malaysian man of Chinese ethnicity....nothing equine about his appearance at all 🤔 But you'd have to feel a bit sorry for him, veterinary work is pretty expensive... 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Newmarket Posted October 17, 2022 Share Posted October 17, 2022 On 15/10/2022 at 8:39 PM, Joe Bloggs said: As a sideline, the best jockey in NZ suspended for 6 weeks, 6 bloody weeks for the carnage he caused, hello, what a role model, he's fucking lucky one of them isn't in a wheelchair, FFS.... Yep, just a normal days racing in nz 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Extra Dollars Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 On 10/14/2022 at 4:38 PM, Chief Stipe said: How many decades ago was that? Probably had the best of the soil condition and no one has spent any money since. .....and we wonder why tracks are fucked but let's just blame under resourced allegedly over qualified people trying their best working for admin idiots. Meanwhile trainers and owners those that are left reminesce about the good old days. Different tracks have different soils,for example;there is no way the same rules/maintainance tapping back/filling/rolling at Riverton are also the same rules/guidelines for a clay soiled Awapuni track, So why does it seem that the caretakers are instructed to roll the track so much??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freda Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 9 hours ago, Extra Dollars said: Different tracks have different soils,for example;there is no way the same rules/maintainance tapping back/filling/rolling at Riverton are also the same rules/guidelines for a clay soiled Awapuni track, So why does it seem that the caretakers are instructed to roll the track so much??? I don't think they are. My understanding is that the 'old' practice of rolling is not now deemed appropriate as it causes compaction. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
curious Posted October 22, 2022 Share Posted October 22, 2022 4 hours ago, Freda said: I don't think they are. My understanding is that the 'old' practice of rolling is not now deemed appropriate as it causes compaction. I agree. Haven't seen a roller on a track in decades. Would be madness to run heavy equipment unnecessarily let alone a roller as well on a a track that probably already has compaction problems. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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